2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Well, it is lighter at least. It might not be smaller, but the proportions are a little more contemporary now...which is always nice.

 

[Slash]

That sounds absolutely horrendous.

 

[Blackbird.]

That sounds absolutely horrendous.

That sounds 10x better then the previous stock 5.0s sounded... I did exhaust as quickly as I could when I had my '11

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

With a getrag six-speed, oh my goodness I'm happy now.

 

[Slash]

That sounds 10x better then the previous stock 5.0s sounded... I did exhaust as quickly as I could when I had my '11

Think so? I don't like it when my exhaust whistles at me and sounds hollow.

 

[Badasp5.0]

That sounds 10x better then the previous stock 5.0s sounded... I did exhaust as quickly as I could when I had my '11

+1 It sounds great. I wonder if the exhaust crossover is a H or X.

 

[Slash]

+1 It sounds great. I wonder if the exhaust crossover is a H or X.

That's another thing I hate....H and X pipes or any kind of cross over. They should be their own separate pipes and never touch.

 

[Badasp5.0]

That's another thing I hate....H and X pipes or any kind of cross over. They should be their own separate pipes and never touch.

Thats crazy talk LOL, it helps with the exhaust scavenging. I will never own a dual exhaust car with out a crossover preferably a X IMHO. It cleans up the exhaust note so much. But I could see that is not your style, you like that "old school" sound.

 

[Slash]

I can't stand it. Especially since

I don't like it when my exhaust whistles at me and sounds hollow.

^^Especially when they sound hollow because they sound like they are some old guy wheezing and gasping for air. Just no.

Old school sound = best sound. I like it loud, with a nice lope and sloppy like. I could give to craps if it equalizes the pressure between the pipes reducing back pressure. If I don't like the way it sounds I won't use it.

 

[Blackbird.]

I can't stand it. Especially since




^^Especially when they sound hollow because they sound like they are some old guy wheezing and gasping for air. Just no.

Old school sound = best sound. I like it loud, with a nice lope and sloppy like. I could give to craps if it equalizes the pressure between the pipes reducing back pressure. If I don't like the way it sounds I won't use it.

I think you're going to be disappointed with alot of modern cars then... were you suprised it sounds like it does?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Old school sound = best sound. I like it loud, with a nice lope and sloppy like. I could give to craps if it equalizes the pressure between the pipes reducing back pressure. If I don't like the way it sounds I won't use it.

Ford's modular engines have never sounded "old school" though. They've always had a nice higher pitch to them and it's totally unmistakable for anything else. When I hear it I instantly know it's a Mustang coming down the road. The new 5.0 sounds fantastic and I'm sure this slightly tweaked version will be even better.

 

[Slash]

I think you're going to be disappointed with alot of modern cars then... were you suprised it sounds like it does?

No not really.

Ford's modular engines have never sounded "old school" though. They've always had a nice higher pitch to them and it's totally unmistakable for anything else. When I hear it I instantly know it's a Mustang coming down the road. The new 5.0 sounds fantastic and I'm sure this slightly tweaked version will be even better.

The engine sounds fine. I've heard them without exhaust. It's the pipe setup that I dislike.

 

[Dennisch]

So what was all this "gonna be so much smaller and lighter and Euro-focused" crap coming from then?

This.
I fail to see how this Mustang will take on the Brz/Frs, silly internet peoples. It weighs 800Lbs? more?

 

[DeathSmiles]

Courtesy of Carscoops, you can really see the differences in the outgoing model to this with some of these images. Like this one;

 

[YSSMAN]

This.
I fail to see how this Mustang will take on the Brz/Frs, silly internet peoples. It weighs 800Lbs? more?

The FR-S/BRZ clocks in around 2800lbs here in the US, the current Mustang at about 3600lbs. Given the 200lb weight loss (probably on the GT?), that puts it down to 3400lbs (a whole 600lbs lighter than the Camaro). The Mustang will definitely be the bigger car in terms of size and weight, but, it also has an extra 105 BHP. So...

FR-S/BRZ: 14 lbs/BHP
Mustang ST: 11.14 lbs/BHP

So, what it really boils down to when comparing the Mustang ST to the FR-S/BRZ is how well they tune the handling on the Performance Pack, and how similarly priced they can make it to the current car, which already directly competes with the FR-S/BRZ. The current Mustang V6 Performance Pack can be picked up for $24,990 MSRP, give or take the exact price that the FR-S starts out at.

So... Competition is alive and well in the performance coupe segment here in the US. And, if Chevrolet gets their crap together for the Code (or, if it ends up being the Camaro), along with that Nissan (if they ever do it), it's going to become a crowded segment pretty quick.

 

[homeforsummer]

Courtesy of Carscoops, you can really see the differences in the outgoing model to this with some of these images. Like this one;

The new 'Stang has made the previous-gen car look rather fat and bland very quickly...

 

[Tornado]

The FR-S/BRZ clocks in around 2800lbs here in the US, the current Mustang at about 3600lbs. Given the 200lb weight loss (probably on the GT?), that puts it down to 3400lbs (a whole 600lbs lighter than the Camaro). The Mustang will definitely be the bigger car in terms of size and weight, but, it also has an extra 105 BHP. So...

FR-S/BRZ: 14 lbs/BHP
Mustang ST: 11.14 lbs/BHP

All of this was pretty much true for the past 3 years. Being told ever since the BreezeFreeze came out that the Mustang most definitely totally isn't a legitimate BreezeFreeze competitor (and the past 6 months that the new Mustang was totally going to be late-Fox Body sized and weighted,), it doesn't seem like that tune should change to "now they will be cross shopped" just because might have lost a little bit of weight (but according to Edmunds, there's no reason to think actually think that anymore) and actually managed to get bigger then it was before.

 

[Wolfe]

The Mustang will definitely be the bigger car in terms of size and weight, but, it also has an extra 105 BHP. So...

FR-S/BRZ: 14 lbs/BHP
Mustang ST: 11.14 lbs/BHP

So, what it really boils down to when comparing the Mustang ST to the FR-S/BRZ is how well they tune the handling on the Performance Pack, and how similarly priced they can make it to the current car, which already directly competes with the FR-S/BRZ.

The current Mustang V6 already bests the FR-S/BRZ around a track, especially base models with OEM tires. Power-to-weight and performance weren't Subaru/Toyota's goals, or else it'd be turbocharged from the factory and shod in something other than Prius tires. It's built for great driving manners and the fun factor. I always say that anyone who scrutinizes the Toyobaru using performance numbers has really missed the point of the car.

When Dennisch questioned how the Mustang would take it on, I presumed he meant as a precise driver's car, rather than a performance coupe.

 

[YSSMAN]

The current Mustang V6 already bests the FR-S/BRZ around a track, especially base models with OEM tires. Power-to-weight and performance weren't Subaru/Toyota's goals, or else it'd be turbocharged from the factory and shod in something other than Prius tires. It's built for great driving manners and the fun factor. I always say that anyone who scrutinizes the Toyobaru using performance numbers has really missed the point of the car.

When Dennisch questioned how the Mustang would take it on, I presumed he meant as a precise driver's car, rather than a performance coupe.

I agree with you on the purpose of the BRZFRS, it is a different car. But, I guarantee that Ford be schlocking the Mustang ST against those two on price and performance simply because they want a part of that market share. Of course, whether or not it'll drive properly has yet to be seen.

Assuming it drives correctly and the value is still there like the current car, it's tough (in my opinion) to make the best case for the BRZFRS at all times.

 

[Blackbird.]

So, what it really boils down to when comparing the Mustang ST to the FR-S/BRZ is how well they tune the handling on the Performance Pack, and how similarly priced they can make it to the current car, which already directly competes with the FR-S/BRZ. The current Mustang V6 Performance Pack can be picked up for $24,990 MSRP, give or take the exact price that the FR-S starts out at.

I may have been misinterpreting but it sounds like the EcoBoost will slot inbetween the V6 and V8. So it sounds to me youll pay a premium over the V6.

 

[Omnis]

I wonder how the I4 would sell in Florida. Turbo cars run awfully hot here. I'd rather get the V8.

 

[boomee]

Welll I hope there is a cheap v8 in that new dark green color version because I'm sold. But uf not ill get a new 5.0or cobra or my fav the 08 bullitt

 

[Blackbird.]

Ill take a triple yellow gt premium 5.0

 

[YSSMAN]

I may have been misinterpreting but it sounds like the EcoBoost will slot inbetween the V6 and V8. So it sounds to me youll pay a premium over the V6.

That's my understanding as well, but, it's difficult to know how much of a premium Ford will be charging. The only comparable situation where an EcoBoost I4 is a higher option than the V6 is in the Ford Taurus. In that one, it's a step up from the 3.5L V6 to the 2.0T I4, and it's set currently at about $995. I'd assume the 3.7L V6 is of a higher cost, so the price differential may only be $750 or so. Still, if the Mustang ST ends up anywhere between $25-27k, it's definitely in the sweet spot for the sports car market right now.


As to how we're taking our Mustangs:

Apologies for a horrible PhotoChop

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Dat ST
Wouldn't it have a small-ish lip spoiler?

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Courtesy of Carscoops, you can really see the differences in the outgoing model to this with some of these images. Like this one;

Thanks for this @DeathSmiles, I thought ford couldn't make a mustang look much better than the 2011-2013 versions but you've easily proven me wrong in my own opinion. this looks worlds better.

 

[RocZX]

 

[Blackbird.]

Im not a fan of the all red rear...

 

[Slash]

I like it. It blends in I didn't notice it at first.

 

[Tornado]

They offer the Ecoboost 4 in the Taurus? And it's not even the base engine?


Why?