2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[Slash]

Some steamy new details

• Real time tire pressure monitoring lets drivers know exactly the pressure is of each tire on the car.
• Rain sensing windshield wipers.
• Blind Spot Information System with Cross Traffic Alert.
• Launch control on all trim levels.
• Keyless entry with push button start is standard.
• Track Apps will be available.
• Heated and cooled seats.
• Selectable drive modes for Normal, Sport, Track and Rain/Snow.
• Selectable steering modes that are separate from the stability control settings.
• Adaptive cruise control.
• Tilting and telescoping steering wheel

This is a nice read.

http://www.stangtv.com/features/car-features/2015-mustang-updates-from-los-angeles-reveal/

 

[RocZX]

Ho-ho-hold it there. Let's not get too irrational, now!

Ford needs to get the ball rolling with this thing in Europe. Even if they love the idea of the Mustang, the simple fact is that cars like a "traditional" Mustang aren't a good business case. Overall, it's a "best of both worlds" attempt, letting Europe have their fancy engines and suspensions, while still giving Americans their pony car that they've loved for the last 50 years.

I absolutely believe that if Ford would offer this thing as a badgeless coupe with the 2.3T, they'd sell a ton of them. It would definitely solve the issue with the, "why would you buy a Mustang without a V8" question... And put a reasonable distance between folks who want the turbo four coupe and the traditionalists who only want a V8 GT. Yeah, it's the same car, but it looks different enough to be different... Not unlike what they did with the SVO compared to the LX/GT back in the '80s.

No I wasn't mean that it will be bad like the Probe. I was just giving it a name of one of the "sports" car that Ford made cause to me it feels more like a sports car then a Muscle/Pony car. That has nothing to do with the engines or suspension. And that Ford just gave it the Mustang name and a few design cues of a Mustang. On looks alone it looks more like a European sports car then a Mustang.

If Ford wants to make a sports car to be sold worldwide they should but don't call it a Mustang. The two cars could share the same platform but make them look different. Make the sports car with the Turbo 4 / V6 and then make the Mustang muscle car with the V8.

 

[Badasp5.0]

But Mustang has never been a V8 only car? Or are you saying go upmarket with the Mustang V8 and get a related I4/V6 car to cover the lower end of the market?

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

People on the Ford Mustang facebook page are complaining about it a lot, saying things like "it's too european" and "it's not a real mustang". *sigh* They even complain about the engine options. C'mon, displacement is not everything! All I want to know about it now is how it will perform around the track.

 

[Slash]

Literally everyone and their mother is bitching about it. I don't care if they are people who are going to buy it or not, that's not the point. If people give it a bad rap then the sales are going to drop even more.

...and don't bring up the Mustang II. Everyone loved it back then, and it sold in high numbers. Just because it's hated now doesn't mean a damn thing.

 

[CodeRedR51]

People on the Ford Mustang facebook page are complaining about it a lot, saying things like "it's too european" and "it's not a real mustang". *sigh* They even complain about the engine options. C'mon, displacement is not everything! All I want to know about it now is how it will perform around the track.

People are too used to the current retro design, so anything different is "not a Mustang". They forget about everything that's been released between 1974-2004 which is, in my opinion, no different than what they are doing for 2015.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Slash, I'm just saying what I saw on facebook and it kinda made me angry. I get so annoyed when people start getting angry about a car because it can come in a 4 cylinder engine. Oh well, I bet people will grow to love it eventually.

People are too used to the current retro design, so anything different is "not a Mustang". They forget about everything that's been released between 1974-2004 which is, in my opinion, no different than what they are doing for 2015.

Which is another reason why I'm annoyed. How can people be that stupid and go "it's not a real mustang" and then forget about the cars sold before the S197?

 

[Slash]

I have a feeling in a year or so people will warm up to it, or maybe at it's first facelift.

Slash, I'm just saying what I saw on facebook and it kinda made me angry. I get so annoyed when people start getting angry about a car because it can come in a 4 cylinder engine. Oh well, I bet people will grow to love it eventually.

I'm not talking strictly engines, in fact I'm glad a 4 cylinder is brought back because it is a critical part of Mustang history....they used a 4 cylinder for so long. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing a modernized Inline 6 either.

I'm talking about how everyone hates how it looks.

Which is another reason why I'm annoyed. How can people be that stupid and go "it's not a real mustang" and then forget about the cars sold before the S197?

But a lot of people don't. They are some of the most popular and most used Mustangs ever.

 

[Badasp5.0]

People on the Ford Mustang facebook page are complaining about it a lot, saying things like "it's too european" and "it's not a real mustang". *sigh* They even complain about the engine options. C'mon, displacement is not everything! All I want to know about it now is how it will perform around the track.

I agree 100% granted its Facebook and there are tons of knuckle draging philistines on there.

 

[Slash]

I agree 100% granted its Facebook and there are tons of knuckle draging philistines on there.

That's the world for you.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I have a feeling in a year or so people will warm up to it, or maybe at it's first facelift.

I'm not talking strictly engines, in fact I'm glad a 4 cylinder is brought back because it is a critical part of Mustang history....they used a 4 cylinder for so long. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing a modernized Inline 6 either.

I'm talking about how everyone hates how it looks.

But a lot of people don't. They are some of the most popular and most used Mustangs ever.

Oh, I got that now. I guess that look is really an aquired taste.
Well, they seem like they're forgetting about the cars before the S197 when they get mad over one non-retro style change.

 

[Slash]

I think it's because the new one was wildly popular with people. It was what a lot of people wanted, which was a throwback to the past, but a modernized and extremely aggressive Mustang. They don't want a change, they want something moving forward that still looks like the old ones or like the 2014 cars.

I'm tired of people saying, oh well it's just a retro car for old people, and sales mean that no one but them are hardly no one likes it. NO. It's not. Millions of people love the. You don't have to buy the car to love it. A lot of people love it. And no one wanted them changed. And everyone's opinions are reflecting that, as you can see on Facebook and in the comments on almost every website that has covered the car.

Ultimately, sales don't really matter. Once a car has a bad persona it's going to turn people away. It's as simple as that.

 

[Ddrizle]

 

[BKGlover]

Which is another reason why I'm annoyed. How can people be that stupid and go "it's not a real mustang" and then forget about the cars sold before the S197?

Because they are narrow-minded, self-important jerkoffs who don't have the guts to stand behind what they say the instant they are confronted with it in person. They are the center of the universe in their minds, and trying to change ANYTHING would require an extreme physical exchange. There is a reason I don't pay attention to these people, especially on social media.

 

[Slash]

Because they are narrow-minded, self-important jerkoffs who don't have the guts to stand behind what they say the instant they are confronted with it in person. They are the center of the universe in their minds, and trying to change ANYTHING would require an extreme physical exchange. There is a reason I don't pay attention to these people, especially on social media.

As I said before, welcome to the world.

 

[Dennisch]

Now all Ford needs to do is take that 4 pot and design a new Capri. To take on the Breezefreeze thingy. Make it a true "European" Mustang.

 

[Slash]

Now all Ford needs to do is take that 4 pot and design a new Capri. To take on the Breezefreeze thingy. Make it a true "European" Mustang.

A 4 pot Capri or even a turbo Ecoboost V6 would be insane.

 

[JohnBM01]

I actually dig this new Mustang. The new design is modern while not being something deviating purely away from the classic Mustang design. I think the design was played very well. I began to note this new Mustang from the duPONT Registry's Facebook fan page. I could say that the Mustang deviated too far from the modern retro-type Mustangs of the mid-2000s. But on the other hand, this new design accomplishes kind of what Ford wanted for the Mustang in trying to make it appeal more internationally. I think a lot of people probably fear the Mustang would be too much like today's Ford Fusion in appearance.

But again- I actually like the new Mustang. In no way am I upset about its design. I am very okay with the design as much as I was when I saw the SRT Viper. And in regards in making this car appeal more internationally, I think it's mission accomplished. It still bears the classic Mustang stance and still looks like a Mustang for the most part. Or do you want to go back to something like an early 1990s Mustang for design cues? Of course, we're going to be used to this Mustang's design regardless of how we feel about it. I have no serious problem at all with the new Mustang's design.

 

[Badasp5.0]

Like I just said on FB
With the complaining you would think its '89 and Ford was replacing the Mustang with the FWD probe. Time moves on and Mustang needs to evolve or die look at what happened to the Fbody ten years ago it was built with the same idea as the 3rd gen and its sales were horrid.

 

[Zenith]

"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."

-Henry Ford

 

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[Cano]

Don't tell me you hadn't noticed that. It's like the only redeeming aspect of those headlamps, how they hark back to the 65's slits.

 

[CodeRedR51]

The area above the headlight is similar too.

 

[Slash]

Oh I noticed that, I posted it because it's alarming just how similar the entire front ends look when you compare them side by side.Round headlights, fines, body lines...

 

[Badasp5.0]

I wish those Vee CID badges made a come back.

 

[Slash]

Those or the V8 ones.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

If people give it a bad rap then the sales are going to drop even more.

That hasn't really affected the Camry in a solid decade of people slagging it off as the ultimate in boring pod transportation.

The Mustang is breaking from the pack, and out of the self-imposed nu-muscle limitations it, the Camaro, and the Challenger set themselves. Just as it ushered in the retro look in 2005, the '15 is forcing the competition to play catch up again by changing the entire attack angle. Any sales it might lose in North America (and I question how many that might be, seeing as how it now has much more appeal to those who leaned more towards European or Japanese sports coupes), it'll more than make that up by being sold in other markets.

 

[Badasp5.0]

People are too used to the current retro design, so anything different is "not a Mustang". They forget about everything that's been released between 1974-2004 which is, in my opinion, no different than what they are doing for 2015.

Especially the loved '87 to '93 cars. Did they have a single retro styling element? (Beyond the running horse on the grill on the '93 Cobras)

 

[Tornado]

...and don't bring up the Mustang II. Everyone loved it back then, and it sold in high numbers. Just because it's hated now doesn't mean a damn thing.

No, it was pretty consistently hated even at the time. But being completely awful didn't stop any other 70s American car from selling in stupid numbers so long as it had a landau roof and advertisements of wealthy white people in tennis outfits.

It's kind of pointless to have a V6 then.

I feel a strange sense of deja vu.

Let's determine how much Ford has artificially inflated the mpg numbers on the I4 to justify the higher price before we make that call, shall we?

 

[Slash]

No, it was pretty consistently hated even at the time. But being completely awful didn't stop any other 70s American car from selling in stupid numbers so long as it had a landau roof and advertisements of white people in tennis outfits.

You can bet it was hated but I don't think it was quite as bad then as it is now.

I feel a strange sense of deja vu.

Let's determine how much Ford has artificially inflated the mpg numbers on the I4 to justify the higher price before we make that call, shall we?

Probably a good idea.



@Cano

Is it possible you could shop another car to look like the GT500, but from the front? Is there any performance models you could tell us about now that the car has been revealed?