2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[Badasp5.0]

Independent Rear Suspension: It only took 50 years.

More like 35 years...

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Yeah, the New-Edge SVT Cobra Mustangs had IRS.

 

[Badasp5.0]

Yeah, the New-Edge SVT Cobra Mustangs had IRS.

Yep '99 to '04. And IRS was designed by SVT/SVE for the '07+ GT500 but it was axed by the bean counters.

http://www.drivingenthusiast.net/sec-blog/?p=11329

 

[Slash]

More like 35 years...

The 1964 car was actually intended to have IRS and an entire system was developed for it. And then someone at Ford derped and put the more expensive solid axle in it.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Well, that's a shame, I bet in an alternate unverse, the Mustang turned out to be an ever more praised track monster than it is now.

 

[Slash]

Well, that's a shame, I bet in an alternate unverse, the Mustang turned out to be an ever more praised track monster than it is now.

One can only wonder. The solid axle actually cost $100 more to install per car than the IRS system they had already developed.

 

[Badasp5.0]

The 1964 car was actually intended to have IRS and an entire system was developed for it. And then someone at Ford derped and put the more expensive solid axle in it.

I would love to see a write up on that.

 

[RocZX]

The 1964 car was actually intended to have IRS and an entire system was developed for it. And then someone at Ford derped and put the more expensive solid axle in it.

The IRS costed more money, that's why they went with the solid rear axle.

 

[Badasp5.0]

The IRS costed more money, that's why they went with the soils rear axle.

Those damn bean counters always ruin the party

 

[Slash]

The IRS costed more money, that's why they went with the soils rear axle.

Not according to the source I read. It was the exact opposite which was what made it wierd. The IRS system was pulled last second.

 

[Badasp5.0]

Not according to the source I read. It was the exact opposite which was what made it wierd. The IRS system was pulled last second.

I highly doubt that since its a Falcon platform which was straight axle and the rest of the drivetrain was carryover Falcon.

I did find this link

http://www.suspension.com/Must-IRS.htm

Which had these pictures

 

[Slash]

That's what I said too. Everything Falcon carried over otherwise.

In fact IIRC the same thing happened in 07 with the GT500 where it actually did cost more to keep the solid rear than it would have to give it IRS.

 

[Zenith]

Not according to the source I read. It was the exact opposite which was what made it wierd. The IRS system was pulled last second.

Then post the source so we can evaluate it's credibility.

The Mustang was made out of Falcon parts to save money. It stands to reason that Ford would keep the live axle to save money.

Besides, what-ifs get us nowhere. The Mustang is what it is. It doesn't need people to tell everyone how it would be better at sports if only it had its asthma medication. It's a big boy.

 

[Slash]

Then post the source so we can evaluate it's credibility.

The Mustang was made out of Falcon parts to save money. It stands to reason that Ford would keep the live axle to save money.

I've been sourcing for it for a bit now, I think it was on a registry somewhere but it's not worth the fight.

Besides, what-ifs get us nowhere. The Mustang is what it is. It doesn't need people to tell everyone how it would be better at sports if only it had its asthma medication. It's a big boy.

I agree.

 

[Parker]

I still think the ass of this new Mustang is hideous. The rest of the cars looks very good, the best they've looked since the early '70's, but the rear ruins it for me. Still, it seems like it will be a great car and I'm actually very interested in the turbocharged engine that will be available with it.

 

[Slash]

I still think the ass of this new Mustang is hideous. The rest of the cars looks very good, the best they've looked since the early '70's, but the rear ruins it for me. Still, it seems like it will be a great car and I'm actually very interested in the turbocharged engine that will be available with it.

It's interesting you say that since it's arguably my favorite part and since it so closely resembles a 1969 model.

 

[Parker]

It's interesting you say that since it's arguably my favorite part and since it so closely resembles a 1969 model.

I may change my mind when I see it in person but I'm not feeling it from what I've seen in the pictures.

 

[ildd]

I may change my mind when I see it in person but I'm not feeling it from what I've seen in the pictures.

It looks worse in person imo

 

[Slash]

Apparently Guiness has named the Mustang the best selling sports car of all time with over 9 million models sold.

 

[Zenith]

And let the asinine debate over whether or not the Mustang is a sports car begin ...

 

[Slash]

And let the asinine debate over whether or not the Mustang is a sports car begin ...

I was waiting for it too

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Apparently Guiness has named the Mustang the best selling sports car of all time with over 9 million models sold.

Over 9 million?!

 

[Slash]

I actually think it's over or closer to 10 million, but that's just what Guinness says.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

I'm assuming the Miata had the old record?

 

[Slash]

That's actually a good question...not sure what did.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

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Someone had to. Until recently, and with the exception of a few special models, the Mustang has never been a proper sports car. It's been a pony car, and a very good one. But not a sports car.

 

[05XR8]

From that NY pic, the '15 reminds me of the SN95 when it debuted.

 

[Slash]

http://[domain blocked due to malware]/instances/500x/48721587.jpg

Someone had to. Until recently, and with the exception of a few special models, the Mustang has never been a proper sports car. It's been a pony car, and a very good one. But not a sports car.

Honestly, I've always considered most of them, at least the V8 ones, to be a "sports car" but I think it more so depends on the model. The Mustang II Cobra would be more of a "sporty" car, along with the original 65, but I would think a 1969 Mach 1 or a high end Fox Body would be a "sports car".

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Honestly, I've always considered most of them, at least the V8 ones, to be a "sports car" but I think it more so depends on the model. The Mustang II Cobra would be more of a "sporty" car, along with the original 65, but I would think a 1969 Mach 1 or a high end Fox Body would be a "sports car".

I think of them as a sporty car, rather than a true sports car. I think of a sports car as an MX-5 or a 911, a car that puts more emphasis on the chassis than anything else. The Mustang has traditionally put more emphasis on the engine, which puts it more in the realm of a muscle car.

 

[Slash]

I think that held true up until the point if the Mustang II with its front suspension design which is one of the most popular hot rod suspensions. After that, Ford slowly started working on the suspension over the engine especially mid 80s on the Fox with the factory 3 link rear. Then it was rather slow up until recently.

I think its down to personal definition really. I think cars like the 911 like you mentioned are more of a high end sports car unlike the mustang which is more of a low end sports car.