2015 TUDOR United Sportscar Championship

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IforceV8
No turbo V8 just left Bentley and BMW out of supplying a GT3 motor.
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BMW *could still possibly* provide power, either with the current GT3/GTE Z4's engine, or through Dinan(?). But yeah Bentley's out. Not a big deal really. So possible 2017 engines (going off the GT3 crate thing possibility and Mazda :P) are:
Chevy
Audi
Mercedes (using NA engine in the AMG GT GT3)
Lexus
BMW (Depending on various factors)
Ford
Mazda (AER)
Nissan
Judd
Porsche
Dodge (hey it's a thought lol)
Ferrari

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That was just a possibilities list, I only expect:
Chevy (Guaranteed...Ligier Corvette anyone? :drool: )
Lexus (Lexus factory GTD in 2016...so...maybe it's leading to a GTP? :P)
Mazda (Guaranteed...Mazda wants Le Mans and they seem determined)
Audi (With the regs topping out at the 5.2L V10...I smell Germans)
Nissan (Duh)
Judd (Krohn...sadly lol)
BMW (Dinan or the old Z4 engine, somebody is bound to do it)
Porsche (big IF...but not out of the realm of possibility. Even if it's just an Oreca with a flat 6 stuffed in it)

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You know an engine is epic when you forget it's turbocharged...I fogot the Bentley had turbos. Another on the exception list for me of turbos that are actually awesome. :drool:
 
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IforceV8
No turbo V8 just left Bentley and BMW out of supplying a GT3 motor.
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Pretty sure BMW has both the Naturally Aspirated V8 in its Z4 AND the V6 that will be in the M6 GT3 car so they aren't out of it quite yet. Could've sworn Bentley also had a Naturally Aspirated V8.
 
RACECAR
Pretty sure BMW has both the Naturally Aspirated V8 in its Z4 AND the V6 that will be in the M6 GT3 car so they aren't out of it quite yet. Could've sworn Bentley also had a Naturally Aspirated V8.
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Bentley is a twin-turbo V8. Nothing stopping them from dropping the turbos to continue their GT3 program though.
 
RACECAR
Pretty sure BMW has both the Naturally Aspirated V8 in its Z4 AND the V6 that will be in the M6 GT3 car so they aren't out of it quite yet. Could've sworn Bentley also had a Naturally Aspirated V8.
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...bro you have many things wrong here....BMW are using the M6's twin turbo V8 for the M6 GT3 and are dropping the Z4 GT3 and it's M3 derived NA V8. Also...the biggest BMW with the twin turbo V6 is the 4 series. And no, the Bentley uses the twin turbo V8 from its road car counter part (originally planned the W12 but they changed to the V8T after some issues or something).


And that rumor of the GTLM Bentley just gets more interesting with turbos not allowed in the GTP cars. :sly: :lol:
 
catamount39
...bro you have many things wrong here....BMW are using the M6's twin turbo V8 for the M6 GT3 and are dropping the Z4 GT3 and it's M3 derived NA V8. Also...the biggest BMW with the twin turbo V6 is the 4 series. And no, the Bentley uses the twin turbo V8 from its road car counter part (originally planned the W12 but they changed to the V8T after some issues or something).
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Thought I read somewhere (even saw it mentioned here) that the M6 had a V6. I believe you even said something about it.
 
RACECAR
Thought I read somewhere (even saw it mentioned here) that the M6 had a V6. I believe you even said something about it.
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No I said I hated that turbo thing taking over for the NA V8....actually I have said it a lot lol. No it doesn't have a I6. It's above the M5 which also has the same twin turbo V8. I did once complain about the M4 not having a V8 I do remember. :P

The base 6 series probably has a 6 cylinder. But no it's been made very clear by BMW that they will be going to a turbo V8. Just like Ferrari. :indiff:
 
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The next round of the TUDOR United SportsCar Racing Championship is at Mosport (or Canadian Tire Motorsports Park these days). I remember first learning of this track playing the PC game "Sports Car GT." I honestly thought this is a course NASCAR should race on more often considering most American sports that play in Toronto and the Toronto area. Our own RACECAR even set up a NASCAR Trucks lap around Mosport. For sportscar racing, Mosport is one of my three favorite Canadian courses. The other two are Circuit de Gilles Villeneuve and the beautiful Circuit Mont-Tremblant that the former Grand-Am series used to race. I think the key to handling Mosport is in how you handle the combination of technical corners and elevation changes. Mosport is almost like a Canadian Road Atlanta.

This next round of the TUSC is next weekend. I just wanted to discuss the next race of the season amid some of the other talk going on.
 
GTPorsche
Bentley is a twin-turbo V8. Nothing stopping them from dropping the turbos to continue their GT3 program though.
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I think they would have a tough time getting 575hp out of a 4.0L V8 that was originally designed for turbos.

RACECAR
Thought I read somewhere (even saw it mentioned here) that the M6 had a V6. I believe you even said something about it.
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4.4L V8 only. I'm not a Bimmer guy but I dont think they have ever offered a V6 in any vehicle, only I6's.
 
Exactly, besides Bentley doesn't REALLY have any interest in GTP. That was just one of their officials being a wacko. GTLM is the most likely spot for them.

JohnBM01
The next round of the TUDOR United SportsCar Racing Championship is at Mosport (or Canadian Tire Motorsports Park these days). I remember first learning of this track playing the PC game "Sports Car GT." I honestly thought this is a course NASCAR should race on more often considering most American sports that play in Toronto and the Toronto area. Our own RACECAR even set up a NASCAR Trucks lap around Mosport. For sportscar racing, Mosport is one of my three favorite Canadian courses. The other two are Circuit de Gilles Villeneuve and the beautiful Circuit Mont-Tremblant that the former Grand-Am series used to race. I think the key to handling Mosport is in how you handle the combination of technical corners and elevation changes. Mosport is almost like a Canadian Road Atlanta.

This next round of the TUSC is next weekend. I just wanted to discuss the next race of the season amid some of the other talk going on.
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Looking forward to Mosport, the GTD and GTLM fights there last year were epic.
 
I wish that it would have been GTD instead of PC. The Ams in GTD have driven far, far better than the PC drivers this year. Then again, they usually drive better most of the time regardless, so there's that.
 
It feels like PC has gotten worse. At the beginning, it was at times more exciting then GT (usually in qualifying). Now though, it seems like its getting worse and worse talent. Not so sure new cars will do anything to fix that.
 
AnthonyD1993
I wish that it would have been GTD instead of PC. The Ams in GTD have driven far, far better than the PC drivers this year. Then again, they usually drive better most of the time regardless, so there's that.
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Definitely. The GTD teams know how to pick Am drivers/have ended up with good Am drivers.

RACECAR
It feels like PC has gotten worse. At the beginning, it was at times more exciting then GT (usually in qualifying). Now though, it seems like its getting worse and worse talent. Not so sure new cars will do anything to fix that.
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Seriously...PC cause most of the SC periods that the races have. Doesn't help that the drivers are idiots.
 
Hopefully the new regulations for LMP2 and GTD will get enough entries so they have no choice but to drop LMPC to a support series.

Although for now they have a meaningful role of giving off the appearance of a proper LMP grid.:lol:
 
Is there anything in the rules that says that they cant drop the turbos? 575bhp should be easy, we've seen 650+bhp out of pushrod engines running further then 100 miles distance at full speed,
 
TDZdave
Is there anything in the rules that says that they cant drop the turbos? 575bhp should be easy, we've seen 650+bhp out of pushrod engines running further then 100 miles distance at full speed,
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The engine itself was designed from the ground up with turbos in mind. It wouldn't be worth it just to enter a Prototype. Besides there isn't a production Bentley engine without turbo or supercharging.
 
JohnBM01
Are you ready for the Global Prototype? They're coming in 2017, and today's Daytona Prototypes aren't likely going to last much longer once these Global Prototypes take over. Learn more from motorsport.com: http://www.motorsport.com/lemans/news/four-chassis-builders-selected-for-global-prototype

Have you any thoughts on what can come from this?


Don't forget... TUSC continues the 2015 championship this weekend with action from Mosport!
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You still sound like a doorstop salesman. Also Motorsport.com of all websites you could pick.
 
JohnBM01
Are you ready for the Global Prototype? They're coming in 2017, and today's Daytona Prototypes aren't likely going to last much longer once these Global Prototypes take over. Learn more from motorsport.com: http://www.motorsport.com/lemans/news/four-chassis-builders-selected-for-global-prototype
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Sorry good friend, but that site is not the most reliable source for news.

Besides, that's just another way of saying that Four LMP2 Constructors have been announced for 2017 .

For future reference, Sportscar365 and Racer are two sites you actually want to keep bookmarked.
 
Let me try to explain myself without sounding like an advertisement... that was the source I picked up the news bit from because I was on my Android tablet, and it's the only general motorsports source I use on my Android tablet, at least with that Google News and Weather app. Besides that, I do find it interesting the Daytona Prototypes won't be grandfathered into 2017. Maybe it's time the Daytona Prototypes finally have their swan song next year. Like them or not over the years, the DPs were good while they lasted.
 
I can see a Mazda/Rileymatic,GM going with Dallara,and HPD and Ligier working together to develop the "brand identity" packages.Since there will be no advantage to developing a body kit other than sending the four constructors extra money I dont see why anybody will bother with it.

The more types of engines available to use the better. The FIA/ACO got this part wrong with their rules package.

Mosport news-The gas Mazda tested, was fast, and will spend the weekend in the trailer again.:dunce:
 
IforceV8
I can see a Mazda/Rileymatic,GM going with Dallara,and HPD and Ligier working together to develop the "brand identity" packages.Since there will be no advantage to developing a body kit other than sending the four constructors extra money I dont see why anybody will bother with it.

The more types of engines available to use the better. The FIA/ACO got this part wrong with their rules package.
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GM will probably be the only bunch which does the manufacturer branding...Mazda might, but they'll probably just stick with the stock Riley. Honda is...well we never know what they'll do. But judging from their failures in the past 2 years (DP engine, Indycar awkwardness, new LMP2) they'll probably just use the stock Ligier. :lol:

And yeah the FIA/ACO got their end horribly wrong with the engines. This GT3 crate engine (essentially) idea is perfect. :drool: Waiting for Audi to jump in with an R8 styled Oreca with a V10. :drool:


IforceV8
Mosport news-The gas Mazda tested, was fast, and will spend the weekend in the trailer again.:dunce:
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Because Mazda is stupid (with this program). The AER engine is perfectly fine what the 🤬 is wrong with them?! :banghead:
 
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For comparison the PWC Cadillac GT3 sat on pole back in May with a 1:15.296.
 

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