2016/17 Premier League & General Football Discussion

[lxmmy]

last week lol, but it's still early and the others still have top 2 smashings to receive.

What makes you think Sevilla and Villarreal are going to get smashed?

 

[mustafur]

What makes you think Sevilla and Villarreal are going to get smashed?

statistics, form and players.

 

[lxmmy]

statistics, form and players.

Sevilla and Villarreal have an abundance of good quality players and both are in great form hence why they sit in 3rd and 4th.

And can you go into detail what statistics?

 

[mustafur]

No because it's irrelevant till they play and prove my point.

Nothing is 100% in football but it's not hard to call something that is more then 50% in one direction.

I mean I remember our talk before the season about how I said RB Leipzig will be a top 4 side instantly just of the wealth they have access to and that football is a business based sport on who has money and money buys talent and success, and you said you expected them to be no better off then who ever they got promoted with now they can easily have a mid season collapse but this has happened before in the Bundesliga and that was Hoffenheim another team backed by a wealthy owner(owner of SAP).

Barcelona and Real madrid have soo much more money then the other teams they can buy any threat their league provides from another team(a Strategy that Bayern love to use with there massive wealth advantage that all other teams end up as a farm for their squad).

 

[lxmmy]

No because it's irrelevant till they play and prove my point.

Nothing is 100% in football but it's not hard to call something that is more then 50% in one direction.

I mean I remember our talk before the season about how I said RB Leipzig will be a top 4 side instantly just of the wealth they have access to and that football is a business based sport on who has money and money buys talent and success, and you said you expected them to be no better off then who ever they got promoted with now they can easily have a mid season collapse but this has happened before in the Bundesliga and that was Hoffenheim another team backed by a wealthy owner(owner of SAP).

Barcelona and Real madrid have soo much more money then the other teams they can buy any threat their league provides from another team(a Strategy that Bayern love to use with there massive wealth advantage that all other teams end up as a farm for their squad).

We are talking about Sevilla and Villarreal here. So you don't have any statistics to back your reason that both teams are going to get smashed. So that's end of discussion there.

It's becoming a reoccurring theme in your explanations to why one side is going to get smashed or beat because one has the bigger wallet which is getting boring and even people who don't have slightest clue about football can give the same prediction as you. I wouldn't have a problem if you said on the lines that Sevilla and Villarreal have tough matches against the top 2 but to say they are going to get smashed proves how much you know about those clubs.

 

[Phoenix]

Well this certainly got interesting.

 

[Akmuq]

You guys get so wound up about football.

 

[mustafur]

You guys get so wound up about football.

Not the same but close enough:

 

[Liquid]

Any thoughts on the recent stories about youth team sex scandals?

Andy Woodward and Steve Walters, who came through the famous Crewe Alexandra youth system, have both come forward and waived their lifetime anonymity to bring their cases to light. Today, Paul Stewart has spoken about the four years of abuse he suffered whilst on the books at Blackpool.

I seriously hope that these are isolated cases and not the start of a deluge of scandals but if this sort of thing is going on, it of course must be pursued. I have to be honest, when reading the Crewe story I had never even heard of Barry Bennell, never mind that he was gaoled in 1998.

It's a blotch on the Dario Gradi era which produced and developed players like David Platt, Danny Murphy, Robbie Savage, Seth Johnson, Dean Ashton and Rob Jones.

 

[Famine]

Leyton Orient throw another one off the trawler.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

With regards to the abuse thing, the Mirror is my paper and when i read Stewart's story today i was pretty sickened, i think it has taken a lot of guts to come forward like that and he is very brave, and Woodward for that matter, i do fear that this is just the tip of the iceberg and more will come forward (Gordon Taylor says the same) i really hope that somewhere along the line they will the justice they deserve.

Leyton Orient is another example of a good club that is being destroyed by its owners.

 

[Liquid]

David White makes it four, and three just from Crewe Alexandra, as Cheshire police say that 11 people have come forward since the first case.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Steven Gerrard announces his retirement at the age of 36..

 

[mustafur]

Probably the Dumbest article you have ever seen: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jack-wilshere-wants-arsenal-lose-9328438

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Another ex-pro has come forward with abuse claims, he has given his name but he was on the books at Newcastle at the time, the Newcastle Chronicle has reported it...

 

[Liquid]

Another ex-pro has come forward with abuse claims, he has given his name but he was on the books at Newcastle at the time, the Newcastle Chronicle has reported it...

I wonder if the BBC will give extensive coverage to a breaking scandal like this when they had the likes of Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall on their books for years.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

This weekends games.

Saturday
Burnley v Man City (12.30 BT)
Chelsea v Tottenham (5.30 BT)
Hull v West Brom
Leicester v Middlesbrough
Liverpool v Sunderland
Swansea v Crystal Palace

Sunday
Watford v Stoke (12pm Sky)
Arsenal v Bournemouth (2.15 Sky)
Man United v West Ham (4.30)
Southampton v Everton (4.30 Sky)

Bit of a change of TV schedule with BT getting both games on Saturday and Sky getting a triple bill on Sunday, Man United v West Ham is not televised.

 

[mustafur]

Think you made a mistake there, Arsenal playing two games in 1 day? lol

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Hehe, thanks for letting me know, post edited

 

[mustafur]

Chelsea & Tottenham should be good test for the League leaders.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Breaking news, the Metropolitan Police has received information regarding non-recent abuse in Football clubs in London.

 

[mustafur]

Leipzig have just proven how much they have stepped up this year, decimating Freiburg soo far, the team that beat them to the Bundesliga 2 title last year.

The Craziest thing about this team is how many Young Talents this team is bringing with it, and how willing they are to play them rather then loan them out, they are re-writing how teams should use the youth system.

 

[MUSC4EVER]

Swansea v Palace today

68' Swansea 3-1 Palace
75' Swansea 3-2 Palace
82' Swansea 3-3 Palace
84' Swansea 3-4 Palace
90' Swansea 4-4 Palace
90' Swansea 5-4 Palace

Full time, Swansea 5-4 Crystal Palace, really happy with our first win in ages, bit of a roller-coaster though!!

 

[Brend]

Trophy #100 was won today in a 3-0 victory against the second best team in Scotland, Aberdeen.

Things couldn't be going better domestically, here's hoping by next season we'll be even more prepared for the Europa or Champions League.

 

[Liquid]

Wrexham 3-1 Forest Green Rovers
Rhyl 1-2 Connah's Quay

It's been a while since I've been able to celebrate a win for both teams. FGR are the Conference leaders and brought a paltry 64 away fans. Rhyl is a derby and there's always local bragging rights up for grabs and Nomads stay 2nd with that win. Great results.

Spoiler

Wales beat South Africa in the rugby, Rosberg won the F1 title

What a great weekend!

 

[m8h3r]

against the second best team in Scotland, Aberdeen.

You trying to start a riot? *grabs popcorn*

 

[Brend]

You trying to start a riot? *grabs popcorn*

I'm just telling the truth based on what I've seen so far this season!

They didn't really get the chance to show up yesterday but they're well organized and have a decent squad. We'll see who's second in the league by the end of this week as Rangers and Aberdeen face off. With Rangers being at home I'd expect them to win but with scraped last minute wins in the past 2 weeks against 2 of the lower half teams in the SPFL anything could happen.

Tom Rogic's opening goal yesterday was a thing of beauty:

 

[mustafur]

You trying to start a riot? *grabs popcorn*

No one here goes for Rangers lol.

Tom Rogic's opening goal yesterday was a thing of beauty:

Literally one of the only Australian National Team players that isn't a bench warmer for the Club he plays for.

 

[mustafur]

.delete

 

[Brend]

No one here goes for Rangers lol.


Literally one of the only Australian National Team players that isn't a bench warmer for the Club he plays for.

To be honest he isn't even a 90 minute player for us!

I'm not sure if it's fitness or whatever but the guy constantly goes off around the 60-70 minute mark. He's played something like 4 90 minute matches in the past 2 seasons despite starting 75% of them.