2017 F1 Constructor technical info/developmentFormula 1 

There is a video that I meant to post up that's quite funny, where it is a lap comparison of quali I think between Alonso in his 2004 Renault and the current McLaren. You'd be surprised which is faster (maybe not). Anyways that along with all these other comparisons shows an impressive insight to how quick these new cars are.

Also VW will be at the meeting to discuss potential new regs

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/...s-vw-konzern-schickt-domenicali-17032908.html
 
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New livery for McLaren looks tasty!

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prisonermonkeys
Formula One pushing for "cheaper, noisier engines" from 2021:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128744/f1-plans-cheaper-noisier-2021-engine-switch

They're apparently looking to balance simpler rules with road car relevance.
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Truly good news!

"Although discussions to frame the exact specification of engines will take several years, the FIA issued a statement on Saturday saying that broad outline of goals had been agreed.

It stated there had been agreement for the engines to remain road relevant - but at the same time becoming simpler, and cheaper to develop.

Furthermore the engines had to maintain high power levels, with better sound and a 'desire to allow drivers to drive harder at all times'.

The latter desire is likely related to a move away from the fuel economy limitations of the current regulations, which impose a 105kg petrol limit in races."
 
05XR8
Thought that's what all these changes were about.
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The 2017 regulations are more about promoting design freedom by deregulating areas for aerodynamic development. The engine tokens were abandoned because the four manufacturers were well-established in continuing to use tokens would be an unnecessary handicap.

Dotini
allow drivers to drive harder at all times
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Don't hold your breath. I fully expect that "allowing drivers to push harder" will become the new "improving the show" or "aggressive design philosophy" - a phrase that sounds nice, but is ultimately meaningless as evidenced by a line of discussion in the Australian Grand Prix thread where someone complained that the drivers couldn't push because they were deliberately under-fuelled; when it was pointed out that carrying more fuel would make the cars heavier and therefore slower, they likewise complained that the drivers couldn't push.

"The drivers can't push!" is an unsolvable problem and little more than a flimsy pretext to complain about tyres and fuel management. I guarantee you that the people complaining the loudest and the longest about drivers being unable to push will be the first to complain about processional racing that would come about when the problem of not being able to push is fixed. It's like Hamilton applauding the rule changes for promoting closer racing before the Melbourne race, but then complaining that he couldn't pass Vettel afterwards.
 
If it were true then it would be a terrible idea to announce this today and if it is fake then Autosport and ESPN F1 have decided to play along/were duped.
 
It's obviously an April Fool's joke.

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Here's what Todt actually said on March 31st:
"What I do feel is not to take an emotional decision for next year, but we should really envisage and foresee what should Formula 1 be in five years, in 10 years. And starting from there, probably decide what should be the rules in five years, so we allow teams to prepare that, rather than overreacting and making decisions where they have all those facilities. But if you prepare decisions which will be implemented in five years, for example, then the teams will have the time to adapt themselves."

Acknowledging the place of electric engines in motorsport and a desire to introduce technologies such as fuel cells into other categories, Todt added: "Formula 1 will still be run with the more conventional engine. That does not mean we are intending to go back to what we were running 10 years ago. That will never happen."
http://www.racer.com/f1/item/139227-f1-takes-too-long-to-change-todt

How about a 3.3 liter V-6 with an electric positive-displacement (Roots type) supercharger?
 
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In 1934 Mercedes-Benz debuted a world-beating W25 GP car with twin superchargers blowing through the carburetors. The result was one of the most impressive sounding racing cars of all time. "They say the car screams, but it's more like an air raid siren. Or like an old firestation that is both ringing its alarm and also being torn down by a large ogre." :eek:







Three of these W25 screamers were entered in each Grand Prix of the 1934-35 seasons.
 
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Dotini
In 1934 Mercedes-Benz debuted a world-beating W25 GP car with twin superchargers blowing through the carburetors. The result was one of the most impressive sounding racing cars of all time. "They say the car screams, but it's more like an air raid siren. Or like an old firestation that is both ringing its alarm and also being torn down by a large ogre." :eek:



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Holy break my ear drums Batman!
 
Dotini
In 1934 Mercedes-Benz debuted a world-beating W25 GP car with twin superchargers blowing through the carburetors. The result was one of the most impressive sounding racing cars of all time. "They say the car screams, but it's more like an air raid siren. Or like an old firestation that is both ringing its alarm and also being torn down by a large ogre." :eek:



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If I heard this in person, I wouldn't give a single toss that is was "inefficient". :bowdown:
 
Dotini
In 1934 Mercedes-Benz debuted a world-beating W25 GP car with twin superchargers blowing through the carburetors. The result was one of the most impressive sounding racing cars of all time. "They say the car screams, but it's more like an air raid siren. Or like an old firestation that is both ringing its alarm and also being torn down by a large ogre." :eek:



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How lucky are we all that these wonderful cars have been saved, restored & maintained so that we can still enjoy them.
Magnificent.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
The official article on the FIA website.
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Here's what I would do for 2021: allow the teams to have more individual engines, but treat all of the components as an integrated whole. If one component goes, the entire engine gets replaced. The technology should be so well developed by then that this is feasible without being wasteful.

I would also try to find a way to introduce fuel consumption and energy management into strategy to open up strategy options. Back when KERS was first introduced, it was suggested that drivers could have two KERS batteries (as cars were harvesting more energy than they were ultimately storing). They could use the energy from one battery lap after lap, or they could use the energy from both over the course of a lap, with a cool-down timer before they could use KERS again. Something like that might work.
 
So, if we assume that VW enters Formula 1 sometime in the next few "periods" (i.e. technical periods, so perhaps 4-10 years) what brand do you think they'll go with? Out of all the brands they own/partner with (looking at you Porsche and your weird ever-changing relationship with VW) which one do they put on the car?

Audi makes sense from a motorsport standpoint (particularly if you place a lot of the Audi LeMans talent from their engineering etc. behind the effort). Lamborghini has no F1 history but would be fun to introduce. Bugatti would be cool simply for the name and the ancient history. Bentley...do we need more British teams/names in F1? Probably not. Porsche? I'd imagine not...but I can't really explain why.

Also, would an industry giant like VW consider just producing engines/power plants for other teams and not enter F1 directly? Would they benefit at all from that?
 
DesertPenguin09
Porsche has never been a part of F1 ever right? I don't think it's that weird to imagine. Porsche-VW F1 Team
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Porsche have been a part of F1 before, supplied engines to Mclaren in the 80's and Footwork in the 90's (less said about that the better :lol:), and a failed attempt at a works entry in the 60's(?) I believe.

TheElbows
So, if we assume that VW enters Formula 1 sometime in the next few "periods" (i.e. technical periods, so perhaps 4-10 years) what brand do you think they'll go with? Out of all the brands they own/partner with (looking at you Porsche and your weird ever-changing relationship with VW) which one do they put on the car?

Audi makes sense from a motorsport standpoint (particularly if you place a lot of the Audi LeMans talent from their engineering etc. behind the effort). Lamborghini has no F1 history but would be fun to introduce. Bugatti would be cool simply for the name and the ancient history. Bentley...do we need more British teams/names in F1? Probably not. Porsche? I'd imagine not...but I can't really explain why.

Also, would an industry giant like VW consider just producing engines/power plants for other teams and not enter F1 directly? Would they benefit at all from that?
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Audi would make sense given their current standpoint as you mention, and I reckon that would be the most likely case. However I'd love Lamborghini to join/come back (even if it would be just in name), after-all they did dabble with F1 in the early 90s.

Porsche? well I don't know, like you I doubt it but wouldn't ultimately rule it out.
 
DesertPenguin09
Porsche has never been a part of F1 ever right? I don't think it's that weird to imagine. Porsche-VW F1 Team
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Ferdinand Porsche was the designer of the successful Auto Union (Audi et al) GP racers of the 1930's.

And Porsche won an F1 race or two in the 1960's with Dan Gurney driving the flat-8.

And they would also appear in certain F1 GP's where F2 cars were allowed in the 1950's.
 
Ah so 1930s aside, and looking at more "modern" racing, Porsche looks to have a decent amount of experience with open wheel formula cars.
 

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