2017 IMSA WeatherTech Sportscar Championship - General Season Discussion ThreadSports Cars

[CodeRedR51]

6.3L*

That engine in the street cars is 6.2L, so if they slightly bored out the race engine to actually make it 6.3L then that is news to me.

 

[Snaeper]

That engine in the street cars is 6.2L, so if they slightly bored out the race engine to actually make it 6.3L then that is news to me.

That is the case, yes.

 

[IforceV8]

The SLS was listed by AMG as a 6.3L but that technical data provided to Blancpain and PWC they have it listed as 6208.3cc so if the engine is unchanged then AMG might be having some size insecurity issues.

 

[catamount39]

#EngineSizeGate

 

[IforceV8]

#EngineSizeGate

#mercedessizequeens #roscoenvy

 

[DesertPenguin09]

On their official website it says 6.3, but that's the official website

 

[mwoodski]

Some creative rounding for sure.

Just like a Ford 302 is actually a 4.9l V8, not a 5.0.

 

[catamount39]

Some creative rounding for sure.

Just like a Ford 302 is actually a 4.9l V8, not a 5.0.

And next gear it's going to be a 4.8L.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Some creative rounding for sure.

Just like a Ford 302 is actually a 4.9l V8, not a 5.0.

The Fox Body engine, yes.

And next gear it's going to be a 4.8L.

Maybe.

 

[mwoodski]

The Fox Body engine, yes.

All of them.

The "old" 302 was ~4,940cc, the new Coyote is 4,951cc. That one technically can be rounded to 5.0 as it's over the 4,950cc threshold, but it's still quite a way off.

 

[CodeRedR51]

That one technically can be rounded to 5.0 as it's over the 4,950cc threshold, but it's still quite a way off.

Well that's how they do it, rounding up and that one technically can be. The other one, not so much.

 

[RACECAR]

So what I'm basically reading is people are doing some funky math.

 

[catamount39]

So what I'm basically reading is people are doing some funky math.

It's that weird period between the roar and the race.

 

[twitcher]

Promo video from Lexus about their road back to Daytona

 

[IforceV8]

 

[IforceV8]

Rolex 24 Daytona entry list. http://competitors.imsa.com/sites/default/files/2017_iwsc_rolex_pre-event_entry.pdf

 

[DesertPenguin09]

There are 28 cars in the field of DPi, PC, and GTLM while GTD has 27 cars alone. I wonder which class is most popular?

 

[twitcher]

There are 28 cars in the field of DPi, PC, and GTLM while GTD has 27 cars alone. I wonder which class costs the least?

 

[IforceV8]

No official BOP table has been released publicly yet, but MP has the details. http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/137769-imsa-rolex-24-at-daytona-bop-released

 

[catamount39]

Cheapest and most popular. GT3 ftw.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

So GTLM cars are like GTE Cars at Le Mans right?

 

[catamount39]

So GTLM cars are like GTE Cars at Le Mans right?

Not like, exactly are. Only exception is the BMW, which is a GT3 that's missing canards and has very minor changes to make it basically a GTE car. Also the class BoP is done by IMSA rather than the FIA/ACO (thank God).

Look at the name this way. The class's official name in the WEC is LMGTE, so think of the IMSA name as a reversal and without the E.

 

[Mike458]

So... bad news:

I will not be going to the Daytona 24 Hours due to some complications with not getting tickets and my family in Florida not wanting to go...

I will be at Sebring however...

Also: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/sebring-12-hours-meetup.352797/#post-11679962

(just getting a head start... I know... same thread but still)

 

[flip55]

Not like, exactly are. Only exception is the BMW, which is a GT3 that's missing canards and has very minor changes to make it basically a GTE car. Also the class BoP is done by IMSA rather than the FIA/ACO (thank God).

Look at the name this way. The class's official name in the WEC is LMGTE, so think of the IMSA name as a reversal and without the E.

GT Le Mans I think works better as a name, because imagine how fun it would be for the guys in the booth to have to properly enunciate between GTE and GT3 all the time. ...Well, maybe fun for us.

 

[Snaeper]

From what I understand, PC costs the least. But IMSA was handicapping it from the start and now its on the way out.

Team owners were upset that PC grids were capped at 10 after the merger for a reason, they had an affordable, spec car that was cheap to buy and easy to sell a program on.

 

[mwoodski]

PC cars are dirt cheap and have already paid for themselves many times over.

 

[catamount39]

Now if the drivers in them knew how to use the thinky part between their bloody ears... ...some of the scariest moments (not counting the first race at Daytona in 2014 and the wreck between the #99 P and #62 GTLM) have come from that class and its drivers.

 

[twitcher]

From what I understand, PC costs the least. But IMSA was handicapping it from the start and now its on the way out.

Team owners were upset that PC grids were capped at 10 after the merger for a reason, they had an affordable, spec car that was cheap to buy and easy to sell a program on.

Wouldn't have guessed that, I find that surprising. Good to know though I guess.

 

[Kingofweasles]

PC cars are dirt cheap and have already paid for themselves many times over.

Actually, I read somewhere that for the price of a PC car, an IMSA team could run two LMP3s for half an ELMS season, but that may have changed...

 

[Snaeper]

Wouldn't have guessed that, I find that surprising. Good to know though I guess.

Well as I said, IMSA saw how popular it was going to be early on. Loads of teams were putting programs together and then the 10-car cap struck and left a lot of bad taste in owners mouths I think. Then the quality of the driving was never really there so I think IMSA did what it could to keep it from. It showed in the TV coverage. It didnt help that only a few teams were good.

Ultimately its not a package that the fans wanted either and its imminent death sealed its fate for this years grid.