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BKGlover
Why is that even an award? In the last 40-or-so years, it's been Bill, Dale, and Jr. There won't be competition for it after Jr leaves either. At least it is what it says it is, I guess.
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Watch Chase be the driver that takes over for Dale Jr. :lol:
 
Northstar
Watch Chase be the driver that takes over for Dale Jr. :lol:
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Really, who else is there?
Johnson has mainstream popularity but most NASCAR fans aren't Johnson fans.
Any driver in a Toyota won't win because THAT NO GOOD Japanese CRAP.
Keselowski and Logano are far too divisive.
Chase is Gordon's successor and Bill's son. He should have it unless he does something monumentally stupid.
 
I don't see the raw emotion aspect as a bad thing. The title sponsor of the series is basically saying " hey we want to be scene on the uniforms and on tv with guys arguing and saying what's on their mind". I just don't think the drivers sponsors will appreciate that much lol
 
BKGlover
Why is that even an award? In the last 40-or-so years, it's been Bill, Dale, and Jr. There won't be competition for it after Jr leaves either. At least it is what it says it is, I guess.
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It's an easy (and inexpensive) bit of PR, just like all the other end-of-year contingency awards that only the top two or three teams even have a slight chance of winning.
 
Chad151515
I don't see the raw emotion aspect as a bad thing. The title sponsor of the series is basically saying " hey we want to be scene on the uniforms and on tv with guys arguing and saying what's on their mind". I just don't think the drivers sponsors will appreciate that much lol
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NASCAR does though. The "Boys, have at it" mentality from a few years ago failed awfully, and it was the same idea as this. NASCAR doesn't want Kurt Busch at his worst on a regular basis, they'd probably prefer everyone to be either robotic or blissfully naive.

I don't see it going far or going well.
 
BKGlover
NASCAR does though. The "Boys, have at it" mentality from a few years ago failed awfully, and it was the same idea as this. NASCAR doesn't want Kurt Busch at his worst on a regular basis, they'd probably prefer everyone to be either robotic or blissfully naive.

I don't see it going far or going well.
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I think that was more of NASCAR trying to force the look of the old, not so buttoned down attitude of years past via the "boys, have at it" mentality. Monster wants the drivers to be themselves, no scripts, polished lines or tacked on Attitude era-type image, just the real thing.
 
RACECAR
I think that was more of NASCAR trying to force the look of the old, not so buttoned down attitude of years past via the "boys, have at it" mentality. Monster wants the drivers to be themselves, no scripts, polished lines or tacked on Attitude era-type image, just the real thing.
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I'm just curious to see how this works over the course of the season.
 
I doubt they will be re-joining, but figured I would look at teams that could switch.

Possible:

Ganassi Racing - 2 Cars
Richard Petty Motorsports - 2 Cars
JTG/Daugherty - 2 Cars

Long Shots:
RCR - Yes, it's highly unlikely, but it would be a major coup and they have a good engine program.
 
Is JTG still a satellite of RCR? That could be a two for one deal if they could convince RCR to switch.
 
I dunno about Petty, I doubt they have the money to pull a brand switch now and I can't really see Petty leaving Ford unless Ford drops him first.

Maybe Penske could be swayed to switch back to Dodge if they got a good enough deal, and that'd be a pretty noteworthy get, though again I'm sure Ford wouldn't want them defecting either.
 
EngieDiesel
I dunno about Petty, I doubt they have the money to pull a brand switch now and I can't really see Petty leaving Ford unless Ford drops him first.
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I could see Petty easily switching if Dodge did something like they did with Evernham and sponsored them.

Maybe Penske could be swayed to switch back to Dodge if they got a good enough deal, and that'd be a pretty noteworthy get, though again I'm sure Ford wouldn't want them defecting either.
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I doubt we'll see Penske switching anytime soon unless Ford's performance drops considerably. Money isn't really a factor for Roger either so they can't use that to tempt him.
 
Ganon83
http://www.news-journalonline.com/sports/20161204/chrysler-eyes-return-to-nascar-racing

Sounds like Chrysler might be coming back
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I'll believe it when they're at Daytona. It's only been 5 years, pretty sure FCA isn't gonna pay what a competitive team is gonna ask.

Personally, I don't care. I stated before, but I'm in it for the racing. No more. I don't care how good a guy they are, I don't care how many titles the team or the manufacturer has, I'm a racing fan, that's it.
 
They either need to bring RCR or Penske into the fold, or they need to invest millions into an engine program ala Toyota.
 
Ganon83
They either need to bring RCR or Penske into the fold, or they need to invest millions into an engine program ala Toyota.
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They should do everything they can to land both RCR and Penske, just to have a better chance against the other manufacturers. This would get them 3 Chase drivers from this past season (Dillon, Logano, Keselowski). That number could have been as high as 5, as Newman and Blaney weren't too far from qualifying.
 
Northstar
I doubt they will be re-joining, but figured I would look at teams that could switch.

Possible:

Ganassi Racing - 2 Cars
Richard Petty Motorsports - 2 Cars
JTG/Daugherty - 2 Cars

Long Shots:
RCR - Yes, it's highly unlikely, but it would be a major coup and they have a good engine program.
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I just can't see anything breaking RCR's loyalty to Chevy. Ganassi is pretty ok with getting Hendrick engines and equipment so I can't see Dodge being persuasive enough to get them. JTG easily stands to have a massive loss going to a new make and I'm not so sure they car afford the risk after just going to two cars. Finally, RPM is definitely not in any great shape to switch makes.

So yeah, there is a reason why "In Our favor" is the response. Also, its once again just that same old manufacturer talk just to drum up excitement when nothing is actually happening.
 
Ganon83
Fenway won't allow that to happen. Besides, letting Roush go means letting Roush-Yates go- Ford won't lose their engine shop
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Forgot about the engine facility (which IIRC also does their Ford GT LMGTEprogram). You're right, hmm, note sure who they could go to. It'd be helpful if Furniture Row was a larger team that could operate independently of JGR.
 
Ganon83
Fenway won't allow that to happen. Besides, letting Roush go means letting Roush-Yates go- Ford won't lose their engine shop
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Actually, I think we can have Roush-Yates without Roush (Just not as a Dodge Team for obvious reasons). Ford could take that resource and give it to Penske (Clearly, the team with a far better handle on the engines). Just like that, it would instead be Penske being the ones supplying the engines instead of Roush. Besides, SHR is here now as a Ford team and purely by default, Roush is no longer necessary to retain.
 
RACECAR
Actually, I think we can have Roush-Yates without Roush (Just not as a Dodge Team for obvious reasons). Ford could take that resource and give it to Penske (Clearly, the team with a far better handle on the engines). Just like that, it would instead be Penske being the ones supplying the engines instead of Roush. Besides, SHR is here now as a Ford team and purely by default, Roush is no longer necessary to retain.
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Without the engines, why would Dodge try and grab them then? It's a two car team with deep management problems and also deep ties to Ford. Deep enough to where a divorce between Roush and Ford would just be one huge headache and throws even more oil on the situation there. Unless Dodge has really deep pockets it's not happening
 
Ganon83
Without the engines, why would Dodge try and grab them then? It's a two car team with deep management problems and also deep ties to Ford. Deep enough to where a divorce between Roush and Ford would just be one huge headache and throws even more oil on the situation there. Unless Dodge has really deep pockets it's not happening
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I wasn't saying Dodge should get the team, I'm saying Ford could just take the engine program and kick Roush to the curb. Cut their losses and give the engine program to the team that actually isn't having management issues AND has a far better handle on the cars.
 
BKGlover
In other news, HScott is dead. Charter sold to Premium.
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Not to sound horrible but pretty much something many of us knew the moment it was announced Annett was leaving. Its just official now (for those that somehow still didn't look at the obvious signs).
 
RACECAR
Not to sound horrible but pretty much something many of us knew the moment it was announced Annett was leaving. Its just official now (for those that somehow still didn't look at the obvious signs).
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That just made me realize something, RPM is probably going to be solidly in pursuit of him because he brings money to the table. Poo :(
 

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