2017 NASCAR Discussion threadNASCAR

[Northstar]

That just made me realize something, RPM is probably going to be solidly in pursuit of him because he brings money to the table. Poo

He's already signed up with JRM in the Xfinity series.

 

[RACECAR]

I think at this point with no drivers (as far as I can remember for the 44), RPM would be better off just running one car (with maybe the occasional race for the second one).

 

[catamount39]

I think at this point with no drivers (as far as I can remember for the 44), RPM would be better off just running one car (with maybe the occasional race for the second one).

I'm surprised they tried running two cars actually. If they just focused on the 43 they would be better off I'd say.

 

[RACECAR]

I'm surprised they tried running two cars actually. If they just focused on the 43 they would be better off I'd say.

If they got their equipment from Penske and not from Roush, it'd also help. Look at the difference that made for Wood Brothers:

2008-2012: Running a limited schedule, constantly changing drivers.

2014-now: Running a full time schedule with one driver and consistantly better then the 6, 16 and 17. Might as well be a third Penske car.

 

[Ganon83]

I wasn't saying Dodge should get the team, I'm saying Ford could just take the engine program and kick Roush to the curb. Cut their losses and give the engine program to the team that actually isn't having management issues AND has a far better handle on the cars.

Believe me, if it were that easy, Ford would have done it already.

And besides that, can a company force somebody to sell their stock in a separate company? Roush owns the engine shop 50-50 with Yates, and as much flack everybody gives Roush, those motors still have some power.

That just made me realize something, RPM is probably going to be solidly in pursuit of him because he brings money to the table. Poo

Annett is running for JRM full time next year in XFINITY

 

[Chad151515]

In other news, HScott is dead. Charter sold to Premium.

Premium then sold the charter to the #77 car.

 

[Ganon83]

Frequent question I've been seeing around:
Why did HScott sell Premium a charter after their leased charter also went back to Premium? And why did Premium turn around and sell their leased charter to Furniture Row?

Answer:
The 15's charter is more valuable than the 46's of what is now Furniture Row. Why? Because the Charter System's monetary structure is based partially off results from the past three years. The 15/51 has been a high 20's/early 30's team while the 46/62 has always been terrible.

In addition to that, the 46 cannot finish in points in the bottom three positions in points among charter teams the next two year without being liable to the charter itself being revoked. Not going to be a concern for Furniture Row, but it would be one for Premium.

Jay Robinson, the owner of Premium and renowned bottom team destroyer (See the 98, 36, etc.), was one of quite a few people Mr. Scott owed money to. Scott sold the 15's charter at a reduced price to Robinson, giving Scott both relief from his debt with Robinson and capital to pay more people. Robinson was then able to turn around and sell the 46's charter to Furniture Row for far more money than he used to buy the 15's charter.

So basically, as I've said before, people dig on Robinson all the time for his cars being slow but he knows how to make his money. And also remember that none of this would have been possible to begin with if Robinson hadn't kept bringing the 62 to DNQ every week last year.

 

[Dylan]

Looks like we won't see dodge until at least 2018. From Jayski:

Any manufacturer wanting to come into NASCAR for the 2017 season would have had to make a formal request by September 2015. The current NASCAR rules require race-car renderings for new models to be submitted by more than a year before they ever are raced on the track. The deadline is Oct. 1 (more than 15 months before the actual debut), if the production car is already in production, and Jan. 1 (13 months before the debut), if the production car will start being sold in the year the Cup model debuts. A full-scale race car must be submitted to NASCAR by April 1 prior to the year of debut. To accomplish those tasks, an incoming manufacturer likely would have to hire some top personnel away from current NASCAR teams, and that has yet to happen

 

[EngieDiesel]

I figured it would be way too soon for them to be actually showing up on track, otherwise we would have heard about it a lot sooner. Though everything I've read says that NASCAR is pretty serious about getting new manufacturers to come in, because that would obviously mean more fans and more importantly their money coming in with them, so if FCA really wants to come back I'm sure they'll have something ready by that time.

 

[Adamgp]

Not all that shocked we won't see them next year since they announced weeks after the season ended. Happy to see they want to come back though.

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

Looks like we won't see dodge until at least 2018. From Jayski:

So basically we should wait til the end of the 2017 season or the early 2018 season for confirmation that Dodge is indeed coming back. Also NASCAR is so serious about courting new manufacturers that they have a poll on new marques on their website. And for some 🤬 reason, Audi and BMW are on there with Dodge and Nissan. Quadruple facepalm.

That said, Dodge is owning that poll

 

[Dylan]

they have a poll on new marques on their website

I can't seem to find it...

 

[catamount39]

So basically we should wait til the end of the 2017 season or the early 2018 season for confirmation that Dodge is indeed coming back. Also NASCAR is so serious about courting new manufacturers that they have a poll on new marques on their website. And for some 🤬 reason, Audi and BMW are on there with Dodge and Nissan. Quadruple facepalm.

That said, Dodge is owning that poll

Gotta love their (NASCAR's) ability to be full of themselves eh?

Audi - Impossible.
BMW - Stupid guess.
Dodge - *crosses fingers*.
Nissan - No idea...because it's impossible to know what they're thinking, but probably no.

 

[EngieDiesel]

So basically we should wait til the end of the 2017 season or the early 2018 season for confirmation that Dodge is indeed coming back. Also NASCAR is so serious about courting new manufacturers that they have a poll on new marques on their website. And for some 🤬 reason, Audi and BMW are on there with Dodge and Nissan. Quadruple facepalm.

That said, Dodge is owning that poll

BMW and Audi do have manufacturing plants in the US. BMW's is in Spartansburg, KY and... I forget offhand where Audi's is. But far as I know they only build SUV's at those plants so it's kind of a moot point. Plus Audi seems to be concentrating on electric/hybrid motorsports now and I'm pretty sure BMW would just turn up their nose if asked because they're BM-freakin'-W.

Nissan I could see as a solid maybe though. They were saying "we'll wait and see" when Toyota came in, and they'd have an instant rivalry there too.

 

[Leadfoot530]

The only thing with Nissan is there huge flop at Le Mans in 2015. The NISMO LMP1 pretty much made them the laughing stock of the motorsports world. After that fiasco, I thought they were toning down their racing campaign?

 

[BKGlover]

The only thing with Nissan is there huge flop at Le Mans in 2015. The NISMO LMP1 pretty much made them the laughing stock of the motorsports world. After that fiasco, I thought they were toning down their racing campaign?

How's their Aussie V8 campaign been doing? I think that'd be a better barometer.

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

BMW and Audi do have manufacturing plants in the US. BMW's is in Spartansburg, KY and... I forget offhand where Audi's is. But far as I know they only build SUV's at those plants so it's kind of a moot point.Audi would just turn up their nose if asked because they're AU-FREAKIN-DI and they seem to be concentrating on electric/hybrid motorsports now and I'm pretty sure BMW would also just turn up their nose if asked because they're BM-freakin'-W.

Nissan I could see as a solid maybe though. They were saying "we'll wait and see" when Toyota came in, and they'd have an instant rivalry there too.

Is that why BMW and Audi keep being brought up whenever people ask for more manufacturers? Also, made a slight correction.
Toyota vs. Nissan vs. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge would be the most glorious rivalry in the history of motorsports.

The only thing with Nissan is there huge flop at Le Mans in 2015. The NISMO LMP1 pretty much made them the laughing stock of the motorsports world. After that fiasco, I thought they were toning down their racing campaign?

All the more for them to try NASCAR. Unless they want to dump money into offroad trucks (monster trucks, short course etc.) what do they have to lose?

Gotta love their (NASCAR's) ability to be full of themselves eh?

Audi - Impossible.
BMW - Stupid guess.
Dodge - *crosses fingers*.
Nissan - No idea...because it's impossible to know what they're thinking, but probably no.

I'd probably make it a maybe for Nissan. They got the body and engines, they just got to commit to it.

 

[DcrRaikkonen]

I could easily see Nissan joining as they just brought back the Titan and it would be great exposure for all of their cars.

 

[AMPMROCKETFANN]

I could easily see Nissan joining as they just brought back the Titan and it would be great exposure for all of their cars.

Exactly

 

[catamount39]

Well it makes sense for them to join, it's just I can't help but think of their approach to things in recent years. It'd be awesome if they did join though. Wouldn't mind seeing a Gen6 Maxima.

 

[EngieDiesel]

Is that why BMW and Audi keep being brought up whenever people ask for more manufacturers? Also, made a slight correction.

Oh, I see what you did there. (granted you're not wrong...) As far as them being brought up though, I think it's more that some people just have some weird revenge fantasy of Das Ein True Auto sweeping in and dominating the series to make all the fat hillbillies that watch NASCAR mad because NASCAR r dum, they just drive in circles and crash herp derp. No one really expects them to have a real interest.

Toyota vs. Nissan vs. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge would be the most glorious rivalry in the history of motorsports.

Get Honda in there too and not only would you have a pair of regional three-way rivalries that both have a lot of history, but also the US vs. Japan angle as well. NASCAR's marketing department would have a field day with that!

 

[JoshB1984]

I kinda want to see Hendrick's team racing in Nissan. 'cuz I like Nissan better than Chevy.

 

[Blood Eagle]

Dale Jr has been medically cleared to return to racing.

 

[Dylan]

Dale Jr has been medically cleared to return to racing.

This is the bestest news!

 

[GTFan24]

Those numbers look so bad

 

[JoshB1984]

Those numbers look so bad

Need white outline on numbers, make look little better.

 

[catamount39]

Make the number neon yellow with a black outline for God's sake.

 

[Suzumiya]

Thank god, did the last designer get fired?

 

[EngieDiesel]

Need white outline on numbers, make look little better.

Agreed, as it is they blend in too much with the pattern. Aside from that and maybe swapping the positions of the Mountain Dew and Napa boxes for better balance, it's a pretty nice looking scheme though. Kinda has an early '90s feel to it.

 

[GTFan24]