2017 Rolex Daytona 24 Hour: Results Inside

[IforceV8]

not to walk into something that doesn't involve me


but who made you the mod of this thread???

The leader of the SOS brigade did I guess.

 

[AnthonyD1993]

I have to give a shoutout to the 90 Visit Florida Racing team for finishing third overall with a Multimatic-Riley when everyone thought that they had the prototype that was the slowest of the spec models and also was the most likely to DNF amongst the spec cars.

 

[Roo]

Ford on Ferrari should've been a penalty.

#31 should've had a penalty.

#10 should've had a penalty.

And that's from someone who wanted the #10 to win. Still, it is what it is, and at least the stewardship was consistent.

 

[RACECAR]

I'm a fan of GM. I'm a massive fan of Jeff Gordon. I'm typically a fan of WTR. I don't agree with that call at all. I am willing to bet that if that had happened with any other car during any other time of any race, it would have constituted a penalty.

Thing is, it did and the winning Ford (Neither the Porsche of Pilet who Bambered a ford out of the way) were penalized. Even the 31 wasn't penalized despite brake checking the 10 on the restart, allowing the sister 5 car to drive away.

I have to give a shoutout to the 90 Visit Florida Racing team for finishing third overall with a Multimatic-Riley when everyone thought that they had the prototype that was the slowest of the spec models and also was the most likely to DNF amongst the spec cars.

Yeah, excellent run for them. Wasn't expecting them to be there by the end. Then again, they had the Goose so..

To be fair, credit to the 2 car as well. Didn't have the speed of last year obviously but considering reliability was a huge worry for the car after the December test and the Roar, not a bad finish.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

 

[twitcher]

 

[jamesst99]

The Taylors won a empty trophy, the truth will forever taint. Next time, maybe they will actually win.

 

[Schmiggz]

Final note:
Taylor was smart and I would think the same way as he did in that situation. He knows how that corner works for everybody. You approach it leaning towards the outside and slowly merge in as you brake and turn in in a late apex move to exit full throttle in the less sharp shape of that corner so, the passing move is what Taylor did.
What went wrong, and if you read the OLR from GTPLANET or iracing passing technics on YouTube you will understand my point, that Taylor didn't have three quarters of his car beside Albuquerque's car therefore, although is an honest mistake not done on purpose, Taylor technically dive bombed and that is a penalty anywhere in the world including that sos whatever in Japan.

 

[GTRacer22]

What went wrong, and if you read the OLR from GTPLANET or iracing passing technics on YouTube.

Since when was this a video game? Those rules don't apply to IMSA. Tell me what the IMSA rulebook says, and then we'll see.

 

[RACECAR]

The Taylors won a empty trophy, the truth will forever taint. Next time, maybe they will actually win.

He made a aggressive attempt for a pass, he didn't just run square in the back and punt a guy off track (like your average online moron does, on lap 1). There's no "Taint" going on, only you appearing to be deeming it so. If you've been watching the race, the 10 is well capable of making clean passes.

 

[Ameer67]

Well, entertaining racing nonetheless. Congratulations to the winners and see you all at the next one.

 

[RoadRageDudez]

Just left the stadium, got so much videos and photos. I'll share unless people here want me to.

 

[fortbo]

I don't see anything wrong with the move Ricky made, he saw a gap, went for it, and Felipe didn't give him room.

 

[Schmiggz]

Since when was this a video game? Those rules don't apply to IMSA. Tell me what the IMSA rulebook says, and then we'll see.

Unfortunately can't copy paste from the IMSA rules book but go figure, it's basically the same defended in both iracing and GTPLANET OLR.
Common sense makes sense everywhere

 

[Schmiggz]

Oh well! It was an American race won by an American guy, right? That's all that matters! America number one, great again! Anything else is landscape. Send the bill to Mexico.
Good racing everyone,
Cheers

 

[Spirit]

If we are going to harp on how online racing organizers would have handled it I can confidently say very few of the stewards I've raced under would have considered that a punishable overtake. On grounds of the GTPlanet WRS Online Racing rules and regulations:

B:
You must establish substantial overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner's turn-in point to have the right to drive up their inside, or to expect them to leave inside room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver's position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was no substantial overlap before he turned in.

I would say that at Ricky's most advanced point he was well up the driver's side and that was before the turn-in point. Different people have different views, however. I've raced in places where any overlap was enough and others where the lead car has rights no matter what. It is what it is, Ricky won the race, and IMSA said it was a fair pass.

 

[BKGlover]

What I saw was that Albuquerque went into the corner in the middle, looking to pass traffic if I had to guess, and when Taylor filled that gap, which is done almost every racing series, his options were try to slam the door in his face or hold the mid-outside line through the corner. He opted for the door and went around. I know it doesn't happen that way in open wheel, but any fendered seires fans will look at it like Hobbs did...

What I was surprised by is usually when that impact happens, one or both cars are notably damaged even in a slow corner, I seem to be recalling a couple of DP incidents years ago, and yet Taylor had some scratches and I'm guessing a bumper bar sticking out, and I didn't see anything on the AE Caddy, AND he closed distance like a bat out of hell. One, two more laps and it might have been different.

IMO there's not an "empty" trophy in endurance racing. Just being in that position means you've earned it regardless of circumstance.

Also, glad I was able to watch at least the last 1:30. I'm not paying $75+ a month just for FS2.

 

[RACECAR]

But here's something else to factor in: That isn't the first time that 5 went wide in Turn 1. Laps before it happen and Ricky was right there to make it happen only for again the 5 to come back and squeeze him towards that pit wall. Its more then like Ricky was expecting the same to happen based on the previous time he got so close, but it played out much differently.

Oh well! It was an American race won by an American guy, right? That's all that matters! America number one, great again! Anything else is landscape. Send the bill to Mexico.
Good racing everyone,
Cheers

Just gonna skip over the Italian in the car and call racism then? Last I checked this was a race, not the political thread.

Again, I remind you about the Ford and Ferrari moment happening in the exact same fashion (a German behind the wheel By the way) and that too was not penalized.

 

[TS050]

Oh well! It was an American race won by an American guy, right? That's all that matters! America number one, great again! Anything else is landscape. Send the bill to Mexico.
Good racing everyone,
Cheers

i thought Canadians were nice

 

[twitcher]

Random topic, but something I noticed during the night time running of the race - the light strips on so many of the cars.

I love them, especially at Daytona, I think it looks cool AF. But why do so many teams seem to run colours that completely clash with their liveries? I think the Fords were really the only ones to pull off a good looking "night time light up" scheme. Some of the other teams look like they used whatever was in the Christmas decorations box.

I'd like to see teams really push the limit with the light schemes on these cars. Come up with something that really flows with the livery and colour scheme of the car.

 

[BKGlover]

Random topic, but something I noticed during the night time running of the race - the light strips on so many of the cars.

I love them, especially at Daytona, I think it looks cool AF. But why do so many teams seem to run colours that completely clash with their liveries? I think the Fords were really the only ones to pull off a good looking "night time light up" scheme. Some of the other teams look like they used whatever was in the Christmas decorations box.

I'd like to see teams really push the limit with the light schemes on these cars. Come up with something that really flows with the livery and colour scheme of the car.

Don't they correspond to the color of their classes number plate? P and GTLM were red, PC and GTD were green.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

They use different lights to differentiate their cars at night. Its difficult to see the car number if the team is using the same livery so a different light makes it easy to differentiate between the same cars in a team.

For example:

 

[twitcher]

Don't they correspond to the color of their classes number plate? P and GTLM were red, PC and GTD were green.

The position number plates are they way, yes. But a lot of teams use LED light strips on the cars to make them stand out more at night. The front grill and the A-pillars are common spots to put these strips. The Ford's are neatly tucked into the rear bodywork air holes, in either red or blue, and it looks badass at night. Many of the teams though, have random colours that completely clash, or are out of place, with their livery. Like, a white and green car that has a bright blue front grill. Or a mostly orange car that has purple A-pillars. To me, it's fugly. I'd prefer the lights to be tied in with the liveries.

Edit:

They use different lights to differentiate their cars at night. Its difficult to see the car number if the team is using the same livery so a different light makes it easy to differentiate between the same cars in a team.

For example:

Ya see, like that! Blue and Yellow car with green lighting

The one with the blue/purple light looks good though. The green one should be yellow to differentiate from the team car, but still fit the scheme.

Edit 2: best example just came to me. The #70 Mazda had a green light strip on top of its fun. Why green??? The car was silver, black and white. Even if you assume that red was taken by the #55, why couldn't they have used a white light strip?

 

[AnthonyD1993]

I've been lurking Racer and reading through the comments. I will say that I'm shocked to see that some of IMSA's biggest critics there are defending them.

The major debate there right now is obviously the finishing controversy. The major critics are giving IMSA a pass because IMSA was consistent with their ruling. Several other incidents that were severe didn't get penalized, and the final incident wasn't called either. IMSA would have broke their own calling if they gave a penalty based off other actions, and a lot of criticism comes from the fact that IMSA does admittedly wind up being inconsistent with calls at times.

 

[IforceV8]

The 5 car would have been much better off giving the 10 the inside because he out-braked himself and would have run wide giving the win to the 5.

Great job by VFR bringing home that car in 3rd with the huge aero handicap and to ESM for 4th place in what basically a testing session for them. The GTLM and GTD race (and BOP) were great and lets hope IMSA doesnt start changing things and screw it up.

And the bad.
Cadillac BOP
Driving standards and officiating, these cars start at around $400,000 and at times it looked like Sat. night at Bowman Gray with the late models. Lets clean things up before every race turns into a demolition derby.
Tire blankets for at minimum the wet tires, or when it expected to be below 50 deg.
Fox. The overnight was great on FS2 when they went to the world feed and showed a commercial break every 20 min or so. The rest of the time 👎

 

[RACECAR]

Can we take the time to soak in the fact that Not only were PC cars not the ones causing the most cautions, but that it took most of the race before any of them retired and at most, it was only two of them (ironically, the loudest looking cars in the field).

Also, great runs for both Cindric and Gdovic. Continuing their international globe trotting it seems.

 

[mister dog]

IMO he should have gotten a penalty, I'd like to see a still photo of the moment of contact but I think that he wasn't even passed the rear bumper of the car in front.

 

[RACECAR]

IMO he should have gotten a penalty, I'd like to see a still photo of the moment of contact but I think that he wasn't even passed the rear bumper of the car in front.

Well past the bumper, almost halfway (though the angle makes it look funky)

 

[CodeRedR51]

I have to give a shoutout to the 90 Visit Florida Racing team for finishing third overall with a Multimatic-Riley when everyone thought that they had the prototype that was the slowest of the spec models and also was the most likely to DNF amongst the spec cars.

They finished where they did from being reliable. Didn't really have the speed. Caddys just flew by them on the straights.

 

[RACECAR]

I'm willing to bet now that the 24 is done, Gibson will have the teams turn the power back up. Still need to sort out issues with the ECU though.