2017 Total 24 hours of SpaSports Cars

[-Fred-]

No 90 dive bomb on Ferrari,no penalty.
No 1 dive bomb on No 90,penalty for the No 1......

Going back on this after rewatching it constantly during the race everytime the highlights popped up, I'd blame both drivers for the 55/90 incident. Yes, Marciello wasn't exactly at the right place, but Cioci turned in to La Source as if he wasn't even there. Keep in mind at the time Cioci was 8th and Marciello was 2nd, so he was getting lapped, blue flags were waved and he should have let him past since they weren't on the same strategy anyway. The only thing that would have changed in the end had Cioci let him past is that the Ferrari would have made it past Eau Rouge. Marciello got agressive, Cioci got selfish, and contact was made. René Rast and the #1 totally deserved the penalty, from the onboard you can see he's not even past the #90's door upon the point of contact.

 

[JulesDennis]

Going back on this after rewatching it constantly during the race everytime the highlights popped up, I'd blame both drivers for the 55/90 incident. Yes, Marciello wasn't exactly at the right place, but Cioci turned in to La Source as if he wasn't even there. Keep in mind at the time Cioci was 8th and Marciello was 2nd, so he was getting lapped, blue flags were waved and he should have let him past since they weren't on the same strategy anyway. The only thing that would have changed in the end had Cioci let him past is that the Ferrari would have made it past Eau Rouge. Marciello got agressive, Cioci got selfish, and contact was made. René Rast and the #1 totally deserved the penalty, from the onboard you can see he's not even past the #90's door upon the point of contact.

Actually the 90 had to pit -at the same time the 55 had already gone to the pit-.They were in different pit strategy.55 was in the same with Lambo,the 90 was doing different pits in order to gain track lost to both those cars.
So "lapping" at that point the 55 would not be enought to be infront of the Ferrari after their pit stop.It happended in the 6 hour mark.Ferrari dropped to 11 place,a lap behind but when we hit the 6 hour mark,55 was first and only the Lambo was close to them (it would have been Porsche also close to those 2 guys if they did not have the 3 min stop/go).
As far as the contact with No 1 pretty much what the 90 did to the Ferrari,the Audi did to the Merc.
Thats why it is so strange on to get a free pass and the other got a penalty.

 

[Sentry87]

Couple of things.

Can't believe marciello got away with such aggressive driving and no penalty. Want rooting against them ever since.

Second, why did they insist in leaving Marciello in the car on that last stop? Causing them to hold in the pits longer so he didn't exceed his drive time only to lose the lead into third.

 

[SagarisGTB]

So "lapping" at that point the 55 would not be enought to be infront of the Ferrari after their pit stop.

The minimum in-out time for a full service pit stop was 133 seconds, which is less than a lap under any conditions. With a routine stop, the #90 would have stayed ahead.

Second, why did they insist in leaving Marciello in the car on that last stop? Causing them to hold in the pits longer so he didn't exceed his drive time only to lose the lead into third.

Maximum stint length between pit stops is 65 minutes, so regardless if they had kept Marciello in the car or swapped Mortara in, they had to hold the car for that roughly 30 seconds extra to avoid having to make another pit stop (which is much longer that 30 seconds).

 

[JulesDennis]

The minimum in-out time for a full service pit stop was 133 seconds, which is less than a lap under any conditions. With a routine stop, the #90 would have stayed ahead.
Maximum stint length between pit stops is 65 minutes, so regardless if they had kept Marciello in the car or swapped Mortara in, they had to hold the car for that roughly 30 seconds extra to avoid having to make another pit stop (which is much longer that 30 seconds).

Cars were spending more or less a total of 2 min and 30 sec getting in and out in a full service pit.Thats more than a lap time (unless I am wrong).

 

[SagarisGTB]

You are wrong here. The minimum pit time was only 133 seconds (2 minutes, 13 seconds) and most teams were holding their cars after they were done servicing their cars to adhere to the time limit. After you factor in the time it takes to get from the bus stop chicane (where pit in is located) to eau rouge (where pit out is located) at racing speed, which is roughly 25 seconds, and some extra time for pit out cars to navigate the eau rouge pit out section at a slower speed, you are left with a pit delta of roughly 120 seconds, much less than a lap. That is exactly how it occurred through the race