2019 Super Formula SF19 Coming to Gran Turismo Sport Later This Month

[Beezer215]

If PD creates an entire new group for this, it would still only be able to race against itself. Literally no difference then to being in Gr.X

Except that with group x, you can only race the one car against itself. If there are 2 cars within this specification, you wouldn't be able to race the two together unless they were in their own class. That's LITERALLY a difference.

 

[AleksandarSRB]

Except that with group x, you can only race the one car against itself. If there are 2 cars within this specification, you wouldn't be able to race the two together unless they were in their own class. That's LITERALLY a difference.

You have old le mans cars from '60 and they are in group X and when you use Jaguar racer you race agains Jag, Ferrari and Ford cars in Arcade mode...

 

[ARTAsean]

Except that with group x, you can only race the one car against itself. If there are 2 cars within this specification, you wouldn't be able to race the two together unless they were in their own class. That's LITERALLY a difference.

Do you honestly believe we won’t be able to race the 2 SF19’s against each other?

 

[dimassa19]

Through the esses at Suzuka, a SF car is actually quicker than an F1 car.

F1 esses: 12 seconds. (Hamilton 2018 1'27.760)
SF esses: 13 seconds. (Pierre Gasly 2017 1'35.585)

F1 is faster, but Super Formula deserves respect in the esses! 👍
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[Veinz]

Gr.X... Anyone else disappointed?

Yes, PD are awful at categorizing cars.

 

[K3Tuning]

Personally can’t really say I like them, but whenever I see footage or pictures of “pre-halo” cars, I feel like there’s something missing... so... maybe I do like them? I donno...

Dude I know exactly what you mean I had same "somethings missing" feeling from some pre halo pics lol

They make the cars look "not stupid" hear me out. Pre Halo the cars retained a look of "who cares about the drivers life really, let the car slide on his head" type mentality and in some flip over accidents the cars literally were scraping along on drivers helmet. Its really at these time even spectators tell themselves somethings not right with this picture. Are we not entertained. The Halo has a look of importance the final element to complete the package.

 

[FoRiZon]

You have old le mans cars from '60 and they are in group X and when you use Jaguar racer you race agains Jag, Ferrari and Ford cars in Arcade mode...

Really? Because in my experience Gr. X only has One Make as an opponents option.

I can see why some people dissapointed. It should be categorized if there's more than one car that meets criteria, like said Vintage Le Mans Cars.

 

[05XR8]

You have old le mans cars from '60 and they are in group X and when you use Jaguar racer you race agains Jag, Ferrari and Ford cars in Arcade mode...

I only got a One Make with the Shelby Daytona, in Custom Race. If I knew it raced other cars, I wouldn't have sold it. Oh, well.

 

[Quakebass]

Except that with group x, you can only race the one car against itself. If there are 2 cars within this specification, you wouldn't be able to race the two together unless they were in their own class. That's LITERALLY a difference.

In custom race the Ferrari 330 P4 races against the Jaguar XJ13. Pretty sure the two different livery variants of the Mercedes F1 do as well. There isn’t much else (the Mk. IV Ford is the only one I know of) that cant race with other cars of similar performances in Gr. X.

 

[Loverson]

In custom race the Ferrari 330 P4 races against the Jaguar XJ13. Pretty sure the two different livery variants of the Mercedes F1 do as well. There isn’t much else (the Mk. IV Ford is the only one I know of) that cant race with other cars of similar performances in Gr. X.

Wow didn't even know about that! Only in single race sadly but still cool

 

[Epic B]

So, guys, will we have at least one at the end of March?

What tracks are those anyway? I recognize Motegi but not the others.

 

[Torneo]

What tracks are those anyway? I recognize Motegi but not the others.

First track on that post is Okayama, second is Sportsland Sugo, fourth is Autopolis and fifth is Tokachi.

 

[RACECAR]

For those unaware, a Super Formula car consistently the closest to an F1 car in terms of speed over a lap.

Those calling this effectively a GP2/F2 car are discrediting the SF car massively.

Through the esses at Suzuka, a SF car is actually quicker than an F1 car.

Interesting to know, in fact I'm very interested in trying that since we'll have both cars AND we have Suzuka.

Except that with group x, you can only race the one car against itself. If there are 2 cars within this specification, you wouldn't be able to race the two together unless they were in their own class. That's LITERALLY a difference.

So you want them to literally have a new class for only 2 cars (Which literally only differ in engine). That is even more illogical then the current class system and that's saying something considering how sorely it is in need of a massive overhaul.

 

[Beezer215]

Interesting to know, in fact I'm very interested in trying that since we'll have both cars AND we have Suzuka.



So you want them to literally have a new class for only 2 cars (Which literally only differ in engine). That is even more illogical then the current class system and that's saying something considering how sorely it is in need of a massive overhaul.

No, I literally want them to divide up and get rid of Gr.X like everyone else pretty much does. Don't be a clown.
You can't even race a P1 against the Zonda R. You can't even pick out the other car you want to race against at all. No idea why PD would create a game that hides everything from itself. We're not "allowed" to do this and we're not "Allowed" to do that.
So yes, literally make a Gr.SF. Sorry you can't see logic in that.

 

[RACECAR]

No, I literally want them to divide up and get rid of Gr.X like everyone else pretty much does. Don't be a clown.

Except no where did I ask that. I asked this:

So you want them to literally have a new class for only 2 cars (Which literally only differ in engine). That is even more illogical then the current class system and that's saying something considering how sorely it is in need of a massive overhaul.

Which you ended up answering:​

So yes, literally make a Gr.SF. Sorry you can't see logic in that.

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Reason I "Can't see the logic in that" is because this game already has a heavily flawed class system that extends beyond GR.X yet somehow a new class just for SF and just to get rid of GR.X is the only thing people want?. Point is, GR.X isn't the only class that is flawed here, it only get so much more attention (despite being rarely ever getting used in Sport Mode) because its more or less the island of misfit toys with no real purpose other then "Well it won't fit in any of these so off you go". Would hardly call my skepticism considering all of this at play being "a clown".

 

[Epic B]

Dude I know exactly what you mean I had same "somethings missing" feeling from some pre halo pics lol

They make the cars look "not stupid" hear me out. Pre Halo the cars retained a look of "who cares about the drivers life really, let the car slide on his head" type mentality and in some flip over accidents the cars literally were scraping along on drivers helmet. Its really at these time even spectators tell themselves somethings not right with this picture. Are we not entertained. The Halo has a look of importance the final element to complete the package.

The only thing about the halo I'm still unsure about is how drivers actually get into the cockpit with that thing in the way. I don't actually mind the halo as it's shown itself to be an effective safety device.

In custom race the Ferrari 330 P4 races against the Jaguar XJ13. Pretty sure the two different livery variants of the Mercedes F1 do as well. There isn’t much else (the Mk. IV Ford is the only one I know of) that cant race with other cars of similar performances in Gr. X.

Didn't know that. Maybe I'll try that later. Never messed with the old race cars much aside from just collecting them.

 

[VeeDoubleU]

Gr. SF

But it sort of will be anyway. You'll only be racing SF Cars against othet SF Cars, even when classified as Gr.X.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I find it funny that PD release a trailer for these cars BEFORE the March 5 update trailer.

 

[Fosterions]

I find it funny that PD release a trailer for these cars BEFORE the March 5 update trailer.

Yeah, it’s clear they need help with doing this stuff right. I guess that’s why there’s a posting for a social media person.

 

[GTPorsche]

I find it funny that PD release a trailer for these cars BEFORE the March 5 update trailer.

Yeah, it's almost as if there was a media event for Super Formula or something...

 

[K3Tuning]

The only thing about the halo I'm still unsure about is how drivers actually get into the cockpit with that thing in the way. I don't actually mind the halo as it's shown itself to be an effective safety device.


Didn't know that. Maybe I'll try that later. Never messed with the old race cars much aside from just collecting them.

Its wide enough for them to get through. They actually use it to pull themselvs up and out and lower themselves in. They have a shoulder incert that comes out first and only with this removed can drivers get in and out.

 

[TonyJZX]

I came across this:

Here's the relevant pages:



IMO this is the best looking open wheeler currently. Has enough wing and the bodywork is reminiscent of the great era from say 1995-2008 but still has the cool modern contrivances like the dorsal fin.

 

[K3Tuning]

Im pretty stoked and its all out of the blue. I thought the Senna cars in GT6 would spawn more open wheelers but its very boring racing when all cars look exactly the same. I can see some real open wheeling going on now for a few reasons. While the cars are very identical they do have engine options and are moderatly powered so that they will be more accessible than Senna F1 but faster than the Senna F3. Liveries will have the cars looking as varied as they do in real racing So it should be a open wheel recipe many can have fun with, myself included

Still do hope Senna cars come back tho :/

 

[TonyJZX]

That was a strange era... the Senna stuff was pretty comprehensive except for the fact that somehow they didnt convince McLaren to lend them the MP4/4.... and I think Forza 6 and 7 have the Mp4/4 and a smattering of F1 cars from that time.

 

[Epic B]

Its wide enough for them to get through. They actually use it to pull themselvs up and out and lower themselves in. They have a shoulder incert that comes out first and only with this removed can drivers get in and out.

Okay, I wondered if you could just fit through.

That was a strange era... the Senna stuff was pretty comprehensive except for the fact that somehow they didnt convince McLaren to lend them the MP4/4.... and I think Forza 6 and 7 have the Mp4/4 and a smattering of F1 cars from that time.

And Gran Turismo 3 had the MP4/4. Sort of. The F688/S (or Polyphony002) is an unlicensed MP4/4. Most of the F1 cars in the NTSC release of that game are based on cars Senna drove.

 

[JoeDaSnow]

This sounds unbelievable. I didn't realize this is coming until now.

 

[tankuroded]

You now remember there was a game based on 1999 Formula Nippon season for PS1:

 

[mynameis66]

You now remember there was a game based on 1999 Formula Nippon season for PS1:

These look shocking compared to what we now have,remembering this was state of the art back in the day.I put serious hours into Toca Touring Cars and Gran Turismo to name a few.Technology moves on so quickly you kind of forget where it started and how blown away we were by the original Playstation,the Dreamcast and the N64.
I only ended up with a Playstation because the Dreamcast was out of stock everywhere and i was determined to have one of the new consoles whtever the cost,so i came home with a Playstation with Rapid Racer,a crap powerboat racer. But thats what we had then.If i had saved my money and waited it would still have been a Playstation but a few months later,i just didnt know it at the time.

 

[GTPorsche]

That was a strange era... the Senna stuff was pretty comprehensive except for the fact that somehow they didnt convince McLaren to lend them the MP4/4.... and I think Forza 6 and 7 have the Mp4/4 and a smattering of F1 cars from that time.

That is because PD went through the Senna Foundation which has rights to Senna's cars up to 87. After that, everything Senna drove is under authority and ownership of McLaren and Williams.

 

[CHEN255]

That old style of Super Formula/Formula Nippon is better looking than the current SF19 IMHO. The skyscraper rear wing and halo just don't sit right with me aesthetically.

I prefer the sf19. Aesthetically I like the halo, though I know I’m in the minority with this opinion. Certainly safety wise it’s a great idea.