2021 F1 Driver ThreadFormula 1

[Hun200kmh]

There have been numerous F1 drivers arrested or convicted of minor offenses. Perhaps Sutil was a bad one.

But Pierre Levegh and Mike Hawthorn did something so horrible in terms of racing judgment it certainly curtailed and almost ended international motorsports itself for a number of years. Mercedes-Benz and all US manufacturers either immediately or soon withdrew from motorsports.

What did Pierre Levegh do?

 

[PeterJB]

What did Pierre Levegh do?

Apparently, rear-ending another car and flying into a crowd of spectators is the equivalent of sexual assault.

 

[mastretta_mx]

Man, that Mazepin behavior, is not an isolated case, in this case the FIA/Liberty Media can impose a punishment?? This is not good looking for HAAS, F1, FIA, Liberty Media

 

[McLaren]

The girl in the video has come to his defense, which apparently contradicts the apology he's made.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/1...Gkvyk8xNZpPec2O1cKStXCXEmIcHiHbWJsYy2_psziFV8

That's a pretty cookie-cutter apology he made. Looks like Haas' PR sent it to him & said post this asap.

 

[Liquid]

A pain in the Haas for all involved.

 

[Blitz24]

The ehm, thing is, ehm that, ehm.

Pretty colours!

Lies. It's just the colours of the Chicago Bulls.

 

[Hun200kmh]

Just to set the record straight,

The lap before, Hawthorn's pit crew had signaled for him to come in the next lap. He had just lapped Levegh (running 6th) after Arnage (one of the corners of the race track) and was determined to keep Fangio at bay as long as possible.[8] Coming out of the Maison Blanche portion of the course, he rapidly caught Lance Macklin in his Austin Healey 100S, who had seen him and moved over to the right to let him pass. Putting another lap on Macklin coming up to the main straight, Hawthorn then raised his hand to indicate he was pitting and pulled across to the right (from Hawthorn's testimony).
What caught Macklin out though was that Hawthorn, using his advanced disc brakes, braked very hard to be able to slow the Jaguar from such a speed in time.

Macklin, who also braked hard, ran off the right-hand edge of the track, throwing up dust. Macklin tried to avoid Hawthorn, whether it was an instinctive swerve from surprise, a loss of control from going onto the change of road-surface, or his car's disc brakes operating unevenly. As a result, Macklin's car veered across to the centre of the track, apparently briefly out of control. This however put him into the path of Levegh's Mercedes-Benz, closing at over 200 km/h (120 mph), intent on doing another lap and in front of Fangio, who was patiently waiting to pass. Levegh did not have time to react but, with possibly his last action, raised his hand warning Fangio, thereby probably saving Fangio's life.Fangio, with his eyes shut, but with his own quick reflexes, squeezed through the carnage, just brushing Hawthorn's now-stationary Jaguar in the pits, but getting through unscathed.

Levegh was one of the many victims of this crash, not an offender.

Full article here: 1955 Le Mans disaster - Wikipedia

EDIT - Mods/Admins, sorry for the thread drift ...

 

[Jimlaad43]

Haas must really need the money

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

A pain in the Haas for all involved.

Might be a long-term one if they keep him there.

 

[SlowGrayAudi]

I hope they boot him and take Illott instead. Hes a better driver and not a asshat.

 

[Famine]

Mazepin appears to be the Rich Energy of drivers. Sadly, Haas was the only team willing to put up with it, and it never met its promises.

 

[Sabertooth]

Its all fun and games until Mazepin takes it too far and smashes Guenther Steiner's door.

 

[PeterJB]

Haas must really need the money

I guess the money Callum Ilott brings from Adrian Flux Insurance isn't enough. Ilott's stock has raised considerably in the past year, he can probably get more sponsors, despite the fact he hasn't won a single single-seater title.

 

[SlowGrayAudi]

Hopefully next year with the cap in place it'll start to decrease the margin of performance between the teams in the midfield and back 3.

And of course the top team.

 

[EngieDiesel]

I guess the money Callum Ilott brings from Adrian Flux Insurance isn't enough. Ilott's stock has raised considerably in the past year, he can probably get more sponsors, despite the fact he hasn't won a single single-seater title.

Mazepin's dad has enough money to outright purchase the team if he wanted (and he probably does), so that's kind of an overriding element I think.

 

[kungtotte_]

Hopefully next year with the cap in place it'll start to decrease the margin of performance between the teams in the midfield and back 3.

And of course the top team.

The cap is not meaningful for the teams with the smallest budget yet, they're so far under cap that it's business as usual for them. And for the top teams like RBR and Mercedes, even though they'll have to slash budgets to make the cap they also have the best tech and experience making them well able to stay at their current relative performance levels.

The biggest difference will be seen in the midfield I'm sure, where the competition is closer and some teams might be buying their way ahead so to speak by affording more money for development, driver training, etc.

The restrictions to testing time will make a bigger impact next season I think.

In 2022 is when we'll see the effects properly IMO.

 

[andrea]

Haas seem strongly upset. Not upset enough to turn down Russian oligarch money but yeah.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Haas seem strongly upset. Not upset enough to turn down Russian oligarch money but yeah.

This is the team that had Rich Energy on their car remember, they're used to it

 

[Touring Mars]

Haas seem strongly upset. Not upset enough to turn down Russian oligarch money but yeah.

Not upset enough IMO though.

Haas "does not condone" Mazepin's behaviour? As if they would condone it. They should be condemning his behaviour, not merely 'not condoning' it...

 

[Blitz24]

Not upset enough IMO though.

Haas "does not condone" Mazepin's behaviour? As if they would condone it. They should be condemning his behaviour, not merely 'not condoning' it...

Has Haas been known to condone sexual misbehavior? I might have missed a few scandals.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Haas is an American team, maybe he's playing to the Republican fan base...

"Grab ’em by the *****. You can do anything." - Nikita Mazepin

 

[TenEightyOne]

There is now the question of the nature of his behaviour. Was it genuinely a friend-to-friend boob prank that was widely misinterpreted, or do acquaintances of Mazepin value the social status enough to help cover his idiotic tracks?

Everybody who sees the video will draw their own conclusion, and I've drawn mine. He's a misogynist racist dick and I hope Haas's's sponsors look very carefully at the matter.

 

[artem9000]

I don't understand Nikita. He has tons of money to hire best SMM and PR specialists who would made him a clearest image ever possible. It's so easy nowadays. Additionally people have so short memory. Did anyone remember that red-faced alcoholic Jos Verstappen beaten his wife and his old dad? Nope, he's walking in the paddock like the normal guy.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Additionally people have so short memory. Did anyone remember that red-faced alcoholic Jos Verstappen beaten his wife and his old dad? Nope, he's walking in the paddock like the normal guy.

Jos Verstappen isn't employed by any F1 teams as far as I know, he's there with his son. And yes, plenty of people remember that Jos Verstappen is an utter bastard. None of that has any relevance to Haas's newest driver behaving the way he does on social media.

 

[Liquid]

Did anyone remember that red-faced alcoholic Jos Verstappen beaten his wife and his old dad? Nope, he's walking in the paddock like the normal guy.

I'm reasonably sure that that didn't happen or wasn't publicised until after Verstappen left F1; his last F1 drive was in 2003 and he didn't appear in court until 2008.

What's happening with Mazepin is happening during his active Formula career.

 

[artem9000]

Jos Verstappen isn't employed by any F1 teams as far as I know, he's there with his son. And yes, plenty of people remember that Jos Verstappen is an utter bastard. None of that has any relevance to Haas's newest driver behaving the way he does on social media.

I'm reasonably sure that that didn't happen or wasn't publicised until after Verstappen left F1; his last F1 drive was in 2003 and he didn't appear in court until 2008.

What's happening with Mazepin is happening during his active Formula career.

Max is a racist. He called Stroll "mongol" because he doesn't look caucasian at Verstappen's look. Verstappen still in F1.

 

[noshog]

Max is a racist. He called Stroll "mongol" because he doesn't look caucasian at Verstappen's look. Verstappen still in F1.

You brought up Max's dad Jos first.... Now you moving on to Max... I dont know but pretty sure this is called clutching at straws.

Mazepin 🤬'd up all by himself, no amount of deflecting will change that ???

 

[artem9000]

You brought up Max's dad Jos first.... Now you moving on to Max... I dont know but pretty sure this is called clutching at straws.

Mazepin 🤬'd up all by himself, no amount of deflecting will change that ???

No, I just pointing on the double standards. Max is a pure racist and confirmed it by radio, Nikita posted private video with his girlfriend and get hate for it. Racism is much worse than having fun with your girlfriend if you didn't know.

 

[noshog]

No, I just pointing on the double standards. Max is a pure racist and confirmed it by radio, Nikita posted private video with his girlfriend and get hate for it. Racism is much worse than having fun with your girlfriend if you didn't know.

Posting a video on social media and saying it's private.... Not sure about that one.

I never heard Max being a pure racist on the radio so I'm not really going to comment on that ... But pretty sure with a Dad like Jos he probably isn't a saint either.

I don't care what any of these guys get up to behind closed doors, but that's the secret....Leave it behind closed doors... As soon as you're on social media it's a free for all, and you have to accept the consequences !!

I understand you are defending your countrymen, but he is an F1 driver now, the world is watching. He is a fast driver no doubt, but if he wants a long and successful F1 career he'll need to think before he posts from now on.

 

[NotThePrez]

No, I just pointing on the double standards. Max is a pure racist and confirmed it by radio,

What you seem to be doing is trying to make it seem like Max's comment (which I do agree was pretty abhorrent) somehow lessens the severity of Mazepin's own actions, which it doesn't. You're trying to deflect and also move the goalposts.

Nikita posted private video with his girlfriend and get hate for it.

And the second he posted said "private" video (while also ignoring the fact that said video was filmed in a vehicle on a public highway) on a publicly accessible social media account, it no longer was private, and as such became fair game to scrutiny. Also, considering the contradicting statements made by Mazepin in his apology and the woman (who, by all accounts so far is not his girlfriend) in her own Instagram post, it doesn't come off as being some harmless prank/accident gone wrong (and also creates more questions).

Racism is much worse than having fun with your girlfriend if you didn't know.

Mmmm, no. Racism and (alleged) sexual assault are both pretty bad, don't see why there needs to be a contest about which is worse.

However, if it were a contest for some bizarre reason, Mazepin would still be losing quite badly, considering that he's defended his own fans who engage in racism, as well as responded to a borderline (at best) racist post about fellow driver Tsunoda with LOL emojis (Language Warning).

Let's not forget that you're defending a man who, amongst quite a few other actions (as detailed on the previous page), got himself banned from an F3 race for physically assaulting another driver, and also got multiple time penalties for forcing drivers off the track at Sakhir.

Quite frankly, this guy has a noticeable attitude problem both on and off the track, has a low amount of respect for his fellow drivers, and has demonstrated a lack of understanding of the weight that his newfound position as an F1 driver holds.