2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

[Famine]

lol

On the bright side, you definitely win the argument now - the Gr.4 GT-R is crapper than the Atenza.

 

[stpatty]

On the bright side, you definitely win the argument now - the Gr.4 GT-R is crapper than the Atenza.

 

[RX8 Racer]

That is absolute BS. BOP adjustments should come before the season starts, not after. Its simply not fair to people like yourself who specifically chose your Manufacturer based on it's performance. PD shouldn't be changing the rules like this.

Its simply unacceptable to do this to players that are competing in FIA races.

If anything, they should give people a chance to switch Manufacturers if their Manu's BOP was adjusted.

Thing is, real life racing series also alter BoP on a race-by-race basis, or even in between a weekend’s sessions. Super GT imposed additional fuel flow restrictions (for GT500) or weight (for GT 300) specifically to limit speeds at Okayama. The ACO in 2016 whacked Ford by limiting boost from its turbos and adding weight right before the 24 Hours of Le Mans after their GTs qualified 1-2 in their class.

That being said, PD changing the BoP right after most people have locked in their choices for the big season is kind of sketchy. Everyone may have expected the RX-V to get hammered eventually, but the Gr.4 changes are a different story.

 

[Pigems]

Thing is, real life racing series also alter BoP on a race-by-race basis, or even in between a weekend’s sessions. Super GT imposed additional fuel flow restrictions (for GT500) or weight (for GT 300) specifically to limit speeds at Okayama. The ACO in 2016 whacked Ford by limiting boost from its turbos and adding weight right before the 24 Hours of Le Mans after their GTs qualified 1-2 in their class.

That being said, PD changing the BoP right after most people have locked in their choices for the big season is kind of sketchy. Everyone may have expected the RX-V to get hammered eventually, but the Gr.4 changes are a different story.

The people hosting the races IRL don’t also have full control of every aspect of every vehicle on the track either, like PD does. There is no reason they couldn’t have done this before the season started, absolutely none.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Bummed to have missed the Karts race in the Nations Cup season... was out of town. I really like racing them and it's not often we get the chance. Good luck to everyone this week.

 

[OJBrit]

I’m sitting out Maggiore tomorrow. Even with BB +5, the Citroen on Racing Hards has all the steering capabilities of an ocean liner through Big Bank and the final corner. Even if I managed to keep it on track, I’m two seconds off the pace of my fellow low A ranks. I’m focusing on Nations and Daily this week.

Sometimes it's the day.
I did a practice last week. The car felt really good around here. I was accidentally knocked off but was able to get myself settled and slowly make my way to 1st and grab a practice win. Last night the car only felt o.k. I tankslapped off after taking too much sausage in turn 3. The car didn't take kindly to it and just understeered constantly. I gave up. I also probably wasn't in the best state of mind after my daily race runthroughs. So maybe you'll do better tomorrow.

 

[GR33N]

Well if PD could get the BoP even close to eight people wouldn’t have to pile into the Manu’s that have two half decent cars. But after 3 years they still can’t even do that right.

Why does it matter if they are similar? They’re all just fake cars in a video game? Just pick the logo you like and go race.

Doesn’t matter now anyways though, this was the last straw, I’m done with it. Have a great season fellas!

I understand the frustration, I was driving for Alfa last year aswell and I completely lost interest in the series after the BoP change.

But your decision to quit now is just a sort of protest or do you think the Gr. 4 Aston has become hopeless now?

I know that at your level, a few tenths a lap do make a difference, but still..

 

[MCL1974]

I’m sitting out Maggiore tomorrow. Even with BB +5, the Citroen on Racing Hards has all the steering capabilities of an ocean liner through Big Bank and the final corner. Even if I managed to keep it on track, I’m two seconds off the pace of my fellow low A ranks. I’m focusing on Nations and Daily this week.

Have the same issues with the Citroen on this track. Not my kind of race anyway, basically a sprint on hards. Prefer races with pitstops and different strategies. Might sit this one out too....

 

[Winnie847]

I'm not sure if @Famine got the memo, but ever since the Atenza was buffed, it's been an amazing car. Even before that, it wasn't that bad for an AWD car....now, it's borderline meta in many places. Especially with lower tire multipliers.

But I understand old habits die hard! Let the Atenza bashing continue

 

[Groundfish]

Moral of the story. Don't pick the same manufacturer as Pigems.

I guess!
The GTR nerf is beyond bizarre. I guess they figure the gr3 is so strong that they’d better make sure the main challenge in the gr4 is not getting timed out by race end.
All the effort on gr b like huh? Those cars are barely used!
There’s higher priorities than that like addressing the non functional pen system.
I think that the Aston gr4 was obviously OP but AFTER seasons start is pretty sneaky.
Plus now the VW is easily OP in the class.
At Seaside it’s giant power advantage was made obvious, but so was the Astons. Why not nerf the Scirocco?
The GTR gr4....AND Alfa? Is the Alfa gr3 that good? Lol I never see it used...The GTR? It’s actually a great cockpit good sound nice mirrors...I’ve tried it at Spa and a few other tracks and gotten destroyed. Certainly odd they would nerf it.
Oh well I always choose Chevy anyways.

It’s senseless to change bop mid season. Senseless.

 

[Winnie847]

Oh well I always choose Chevy anyways.

alright, gloves are off buddy. this is my first season with Chevy...let's do this!

 

[Famine]

I'm not sure if @Famine got the memo, but ever since the Atenza was buffed, it's been an amazing car. Even before that, it wasn't that bad for an AWD car....now, it's borderline meta in many places. Especially with lower tire multipliers.

But I understand old habits die hard! Let the Atenza bashing continue

I found it okay after the last set of BOP changes, but I figured that it was more to do with other cars getting Miseryed; it still handled like a cyclist's dong.

I'll keep on avoiding it like the plague. Although apparently people don't do that any more, so maybe it's time for a new metaphor.

 

[Winnie847]

I found it okay after the last set of BOP changes, but I figured that it was more to do with other cars getting Miseryed; it still handled like a cyclist's dong.

I'll keep on avoiding it like the plague. Although apparently people don't do that any more, so maybe it's time for a new metaphor.

I actually shied away from Mazda this season because it was getting too popular. I often do this weird thing where I like to handicap myself, and picking Mazda was usually a good way to do that. Not so much anymore. But with today's changes....the RX Vision is back to being slow as balls. It will still have a tire wear and fuel advantage over other Gr.3's, but the Gr.4 is definitely the strongest Mazda these days.

 

[Groundfish]

alright, gloves are off buddy. this is my first season with Chevy...let's do this!

The heartbeat of America!

 

[Pigems]

I understand the frustration, I was driving for Alfa last year aswell and I completely lost interest in the series after the BoP change.

But your decision to quit now is just a sort of protest or do you think the Gr. 4 Aston has become hopeless now?

I know that at your level, a few tenths a lap do make a difference, but still..

Protest, the car is probably fine. I’m just sick of them doing this every season.

 

[Seth_Logan]

I was just going to say pretty much the same thing - because you carry less speed into Banky Boi and the final corner, it's easier to hold the racing line and clip the apex. But you're carrying less speed into the corners because you have less speed to carry at all.

Personally, I'm down 2 tenths to last night. I still got a bit of time before I have to leave for work, we'll see.

Too me at least the BoP change for Jaguar has proven not to be such a bad thing. At least on this track.

I'm giving all the credits to the change for my new found times in turn 3, banky boy and the final lefthander. Other sectors have been improved but these were less influenced by the BoP.

Summarizing I was able to adapt to the change by altering my driving style and found .277 seconds

Here's hoping that form can be maintained until tomorrow

 

[05XR8]

Guess it's an omen that I started playing PC3 again, before this BOP update.

 

[Adam Barber]

Most of the anger at this BoP update seems to be because it's happend after the season has already started and depending on your manufacturer is a bit of a slap in the face. PD should have done a BoP change before the first round of a new season and not after as that just screws over some of the playerbase. On a side notw hopefully this means my Gr4 SLS is comparatively less rubbish to the other cars in its class.

 

[05XR8]

I'm still going to run tonight. Might be top Nissan due to GT-R users parked up in their garages.

 

[Pigems]

Most of the anger at this BoP update seems to be because it's happend after the season has already started and depending on your manufacturer is a bit of a slap in the face. PD should have done a BoP change before the first round of a new season and not after as that just screws over some of the playerbase. On a side notw hopefully this means my Gr4 SLS is comparatively less rubbish to the other cars in its class.

That explains my case, they can change BoP any time they want too, as long as we are not locked into cars are the time. 👍

 

[Adam Barber]

That explains my case, they can change BoP any time they want too, as long as we are not locked into cars are the time. 👍

The GT-R nerf does feel a bit cruel and the GrB BoP change was unexpected, probably got sick of them all being spec races.

 

[Seth_Logan]

Apparently a new penalty system is employed and nobody here caught it? Kie is streaming now and he likes it (so far)!

 

[Kermit_2142]

Apparently a new penalty system is employed and nobody here caught it? Kie is streaming now and he likes it (so far)!

hopefully the next fia round will be a bit calmer tomorrow then

 

[05XR8]

I dunno, Lago can bring out the nasties at times: T1 heros and "the bowling club-hairpin waterbuffalos".

 

[Razgriz2118]

My issue with the BoP update is that it happened only ONE race into the season. A mid-season BoP? That may be frustrating since we're all locked into our choices, but with 1/3rd to 1/2 of the races already completed, any OP cars would have had a chance to get good points and weaker cars will have the rest of the season to get more. But just one race? Seriously? Why wasn't this done before the season started? It's not like the one race suddenly pointed out an imbalance that no one wasn't already aware of, especially since Gr.4 and Gr.B was the most affected class by the BoP change and the one race we ran was Gr.3.

 

[SpeedStarGTS]

I can’t even remember the last time I saw a Gr.4 Aston at the top of any leaderboard?

Its was the Meta car for the past few weeks in Daily races Spa, Dragon trail, Maggiore and Redbull rings. after the nerf to FF cars the Vantage v8 was the the dominate cars to use. That is why lots of ppl flooded to Aston for manufacture this season, its a similar situation with the New Mazda
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...nce_mission/&usg=AOvVaw09cCL1OF3WM_0Rz7J7zrIS

 

[Pigems]

Its was the Meta car for the past few weeks in Daily races Spa, Dragon trail, Maggiore and Redbull rings. after the nerf to FF cars the Vantage v8 was the the dominate cars to use. That is why lots of ppl flooded to Aston for manufacture this season, its a similar situation with the New Mazda

Hmm, I had no idea, and here I picked Aston for the Gr.3 car!

 

[Jwptexas]

I haven't even done a round yet and I feel like I've won today.

 

[Photodave219]

Thing is, real life racing series also alter BoP on a race-by-race basis, or even in between a weekend’s sessions. Super GT imposed additional fuel flow restrictions (for GT500) or weight (for GT 300) specifically to limit speeds at Okayama. The ACO in 2016 whacked Ford by limiting boost from its turbos and adding weight right before the 24 Hours of Le Mans after their GTs qualified 1-2 in their class.

That being said, PD changing the BoP right after most people have locked in their choices for the big season is kind of sketchy. Everyone may have expected the RX-V to get hammered eventually, but the Gr.4 changes are a different story.

I agree in the sense that BOP adjustments happen IRL, but this is virtual racing and PD could have done this two weeks ago. Its super sketchy IMHO and frankly pretty disrespectful to the player base.

I mean I'm here still trying to learn and scrape out a decent DR. I'm still learning what cars work for me. I chose my Manu based on what I can drive the best and get results that ... well don't suck. I'd like to think that others chose their Manu on what works for them and to change it a week after the first race and 36 hours or so before the next race?

 

[05XR8]

Looks like many chose the faster car to be competitive. That's the objective. I mean, if PD randomised the Manu as shuffle racing each round, defeats the purpose. PD made this championship for players to race their favorite manufacturer. I did fine in the early years of the FIA, but lately, it ain't been fun racing my favorites(Ford & Mazda).