2021 FIA Series Race Discussion
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- VulcanSpirit
I am ready...
Did consider Lexus, Citroen and BMW as well, but in test lobbies the WRX proved faster and more consistent while also being less of a handful. I also have some past success with the Gr.3 version so it'll be interesting to see how well a 4WD/handling combo works out for me this season...
Did consider Lexus, Citroen and BMW as well, but in test lobbies the WRX proved faster and more consistent while also being less of a handful. I also have some past success with the Gr.3 version so it'll be interesting to see how well a 4WD/handling combo works out for me this season...
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- Ulricehamn
One thing changed. The number of people that signed up to any given manufacturer. So that must be what they base it on.
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- Buenos Aires, Argentina
I'm yet to pick a manufacturer, since I was thinking to skip the whole FIA season, but I'm thinking about giving the game another chance. Specially if punts are back to being penalized, it might be a little bit better... (how naive can I be? 
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In the last exhibition season, I went with BMW, but got extremely frustrated with the M4. It is a great car and capable of very quick laptimes, I had decent pace with it myself. I'm sure it's a great car for A+ DR lobbies with drivers getting benefit in the handling sections out of its slipstream. But in A DR lobbies, I kept getting divebombed by drivers with not the smartest racecraft, to put it this way. They would bump me out of the way and pass just before handling sections, where they would hold me up with power cars, only for me to be unable to pass in the straights.
So I want to pick a manufacturer which has some grunt on both Gr.3 and Gr.4. I did a few laps before the BOP change and was between the Jaguar and the Aston Martins, leaning more towards the Jaguar since I find the Aston's too understeery for my liking. Now they have both been nerfed in Gr.4... Tried them yesterday, they lost 1-2kph before the banky boy with the power nerf, although the Aston V8 now seems to allow you to pick up the throttle a little bit more aggressively without understeereing, not sure if @Pigems agrees...
So despite the nerf, I'm still thinking to go Jag. Any other manufacturers I should consider?
)In the last exhibition season, I went with BMW, but got extremely frustrated with the M4. It is a great car and capable of very quick laptimes, I had decent pace with it myself. I'm sure it's a great car for A+ DR lobbies with drivers getting benefit in the handling sections out of its slipstream. But in A DR lobbies, I kept getting divebombed by drivers with not the smartest racecraft, to put it this way. They would bump me out of the way and pass just before handling sections, where they would hold me up with power cars, only for me to be unable to pass in the straights.
So I want to pick a manufacturer which has some grunt on both Gr.3 and Gr.4. I did a few laps before the BOP change and was between the Jaguar and the Aston Martins, leaning more towards the Jaguar since I find the Aston's too understeery for my liking. Now they have both been nerfed in Gr.4... Tried them yesterday, they lost 1-2kph before the banky boy with the power nerf, although the Aston V8 now seems to allow you to pick up the throttle a little bit more aggressively without understeereing, not sure if @Pigems agrees...
So despite the nerf, I'm still thinking to go Jag. Any other manufacturers I should consider?
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Good luck everyone racing in EU. Have fun, stay clean.
Pigems
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I'm yet to pick a manufacturer, since I was thinking to skip the whole FIA season, but I'm thinking about giving the game another chance. Specially if punts are back to being penalized, it might be a little bit better... (how naive can I be?
In the last exhibition season, I went with BMW, but got extremely frustrated with the M4. It is a great car and capable of very quick laptimes, I had decent pace with it myself. I'm sure it's a great car for A+ DR lobbies with drivers getting benefit in the handling sections out of its slipstream. But in A DR lobbies, I kept getting divebombed by drivers with not the smartest racecraft, to put it this way. They would bump me out of the way and pass just before handling sections, where they would hold me up with power cars, only for me to be unable to pass in the straights.
So I want to pick a manufacturer which has some grunt on both Gr.3 and Gr.4. I did a few laps before the BOP change and was between the Jaguar and the Aston Martins, leaning more towards the Jaguar since I find the Aston's too understeery for my liking. Now they have both been nerfed in Gr.4... Tried them yesterday, they lost 1-2kph before the banky boy with the power nerf, although the Aston V8 now seems to allow you to pick up the throttle a little bit more aggressively without understeereing, not sure if @Pigems agrees...
I’m in agreement there, there is a slight bit less on throttle understeer on the Gr.4 Aston now. I found it most noticeable on T3 and the last sector.
Overall the nerf was worth .3 in FL and Optimal for me in FP. Didn’t seem to make much difference in race with slip, but it will affect Qually if you don’t have slip.
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- Hasnain282
Not expecting much from this one, don't seem to be on the pace
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- crusselz
Slot 1 wasn't great.
Qualified in 11th
Finished P8 (I think)
117 points
+200DR
Quite a dirty race at the back. With a few drivers trying to take each other out. Had to hang back and hope I didn't get caught up in their shenanigans.
Tempted to settle for the one and done. Can't blame it on the Atenza. But I seem off the pace in general.
Qualified in 11th
Finished P8 (I think)
117 points
+200DR
Quite a dirty race at the back. With a few drivers trying to take each other out. Had to hang back and hope I didn't get caught up in their shenanigans.
Tempted to settle for the one and done. Can't blame it on the Atenza. But I seem off the pace in general.
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- challenger001
You know those moments where you wonder if it's worth being a clean racer? Whether you're giving too much up?
This was not one of those days.
Qualified pretty well in the Viper, but admittedly did a pretty rough move on a Cayman early on in the race, he flashed me, not happy - but he'd been weaving down the straight to keep me behind so I assumed I was faster anyway. Moved up to the top quarter where it all began to kick off with a relatively close top 5 all fighting for position. A Black BMW gets a penalty and is hauled back, and a yellow SLS runs wide too to break the slipstream tow to the Sciroccos and the Slophy up front.
The BMW gets back on me quickly and knowing he's fast, decide to let him through to get the slipstream and hopefully break distance. Instantly, his talent runs out and I'm having to bump draft him to try and stay ahead. No luck, the Cayman from earlier is approaching and worried that he'll go rough with me, I let him past. That lets the SLS catch up. My heart sinks. Am I going to really let myself drop down to 6th? Then I look ahead. The Cayman and the BMW are getting *really* feisty with each other.
Am I going to let him by? You sure as hell bet *I* don't want any of that nonsense up ahead, I let him past into the last sector. Sure enough, coming through the final turn, the Cayman and BMW make contact, and go wide. The SLS thinks he has a chance, charges down the middle as the two come right back to try and butt heads down the straight. Sure enough it's the SLS who comes off worst, speared off into the wall at the first corner while the BMW runs wide and picks up a 2s penalty. That leaves me and the Cayman, and while he's not dropping me, I'm not catching him, and I come home in 4th. Pretty decent all round and once again gives me a bit of smug satisfaction for my Christian Motoring.
This was not one of those days.
Qualified pretty well in the Viper, but admittedly did a pretty rough move on a Cayman early on in the race, he flashed me, not happy - but he'd been weaving down the straight to keep me behind so I assumed I was faster anyway. Moved up to the top quarter where it all began to kick off with a relatively close top 5 all fighting for position. A Black BMW gets a penalty and is hauled back, and a yellow SLS runs wide too to break the slipstream tow to the Sciroccos and the Slophy up front.
The BMW gets back on me quickly and knowing he's fast, decide to let him through to get the slipstream and hopefully break distance. Instantly, his talent runs out and I'm having to bump draft him to try and stay ahead. No luck, the Cayman from earlier is approaching and worried that he'll go rough with me, I let him past. That lets the SLS catch up. My heart sinks. Am I going to really let myself drop down to 6th? Then I look ahead. The Cayman and the BMW are getting *really* feisty with each other.
Am I going to let him by? You sure as hell bet *I* don't want any of that nonsense up ahead, I let him past into the last sector. Sure enough, coming through the final turn, the Cayman and BMW make contact, and go wide. The SLS thinks he has a chance, charges down the middle as the two come right back to try and butt heads down the straight. Sure enough it's the SLS who comes off worst, speared off into the wall at the first corner while the BMW runs wide and picks up a 2s penalty. That leaves me and the Cayman, and while he's not dropping me, I'm not catching him, and I come home in 4th. Pretty decent all round and once again gives me a bit of smug satisfaction for my Christian Motoring.
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- Zorzil
Lago Maggiore in the Citroen actually went better than I had anticipated.
I put it on P7 in qualifying, but had a shaky start. Does anyone else struggle a bit with nerves at the start of FIA races? I sometimes find my left leg shakes which is fantastic for braking.
I lost my tow to the Citroen in front of me in P6 pretty quickly, but then got the entire position when he/she picked up a 1s penalty and dropped back.
We had a Citroen showdown for a while, before something happened behind me causing the other Citroen to fall back allowing me to get a gap. I had to fight like hell to keep that gap though, my consistency wasn't as good as a Porsche that had picked up from where the Citroen left off. Some mistakes on my part (including running a bit wide at the last turn and getting dirty tyres...
) cost me a hefty chunk of time, and the Porsche was slowly eating away at the delta anyway. I also struggled with the hairpin, having to keep shifting down from 7th to 2nd with some trailbraking and a very sharp turn was just a bit too much for me to reliably do correctly.
I managed to keep the Porsche out of slipstream range though, so finished P6 for 160 points. My overall race time was about the same as my fastest in practice lobbies so I think I came away with the best result my pace could have mustered. One and done, I'm very happy with that.
EDIT - I somehow completely forgot that something happened behind me on turn 1. Watching the replay back, oh dear. All I'll say is I think I owe this McLaren driver a drink.
I put it on P7 in qualifying, but had a shaky start. Does anyone else struggle a bit with nerves at the start of FIA races? I sometimes find my left leg shakes which is fantastic for braking.
I lost my tow to the Citroen in front of me in P6 pretty quickly, but then got the entire position when he/she picked up a 1s penalty and dropped back.We had a Citroen showdown for a while, before something happened behind me causing the other Citroen to fall back allowing me to get a gap. I had to fight like hell to keep that gap though, my consistency wasn't as good as a Porsche that had picked up from where the Citroen left off. Some mistakes on my part (including running a bit wide at the last turn and getting dirty tyres...
) cost me a hefty chunk of time, and the Porsche was slowly eating away at the delta anyway. I also struggled with the hairpin, having to keep shifting down from 7th to 2nd with some trailbraking and a very sharp turn was just a bit too much for me to reliably do correctly.I managed to keep the Porsche out of slipstream range though, so finished P6 for 160 points. My overall race time was about the same as my fastest in practice lobbies so I think I came away with the best result my pace could have mustered. One and done, I'm very happy with that.
EDIT - I somehow completely forgot that something happened behind me on turn 1. Watching the replay back, oh dear. All I'll say is I think I owe this McLaren driver a drink.
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Qualified P11 a tenth off my PB, though the optimal was pretty good for some reason. We lost the top 8 from the get go, I dropped a few positions just to settle into the train and as soon as the pack I was in got into a rhythm they started battling. 
After that I just picked off positions from others' misfortunes and only caught the pack ahead on the last lap. All the action happened on the last lap as I ended up gaining 3 positions for P7. Was targeting a 200+ score before the race so I'll take it.
After that I just picked off positions from others' misfortunes and only caught the pack ahead on the last lap. All the action happened on the last lap as I ended up gaining 3 positions for P7. Was targeting a 200+ score before the race so I'll take it.
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- Ireland
Chevrolet - 6th for 131 points.
Usually I could guarantee a wonderfully mediocre 11-14th for qualifying but I outdid myself this time and qualified a truly miserable 17th. Not sure what it is but once qualifying starts I throw everything out the window and make some bizarre mistake.
On to the race. Manage to gain 2 positions in the opening few corners. Settle in after that and slowly make some more places due to penalties. 6th down to 12th or so seems tightly packed and in the middle stages of the race it starts getting feisty. With the previous penalty changes I had to adjust to getting the elbows out and this served me well here. Moved into 6th on the penultimate lap and was able to hang on.
This was my first time using the gr. 4 Chevy and I'm not in love with it, but pleased with how this race went after the farcical qualifying. I'd been resigned to racing again but now not so sure. To everyone yet to go, good luck and get those elbow pads on
Usually I could guarantee a wonderfully mediocre 11-14th for qualifying but I outdid myself this time and qualified a truly miserable 17th. Not sure what it is but once qualifying starts I throw everything out the window and make some bizarre mistake.
On to the race. Manage to gain 2 positions in the opening few corners. Settle in after that and slowly make some more places due to penalties. 6th down to 12th or so seems tightly packed and in the middle stages of the race it starts getting feisty. With the previous penalty changes I had to adjust to getting the elbows out and this served me well here. Moved into 6th on the penultimate lap and was able to hang on.
This was my first time using the gr. 4 Chevy and I'm not in love with it, but pleased with how this race went after the farcical qualifying. I'd been resigned to racing again but now not so sure. To everyone yet to go, good luck and get those elbow pads on
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Door 5
Qual 18
Fin 12
25pts
- 200 dr, so staying in C for a bit longer.
Such a difficult track, for me.
Qual 18
Fin 12
25pts
- 200 dr, so staying in C for a bit longer.
Such a difficult track, for me.
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- stpatty
**** yer bop
Started 3rd. 1st and 2nd (BMW and VW) were both fast enough to leave me without slipstream. A Porsche passed me on lap 3 (more cleanly than you'd expect from someone whose opening message is "Im 16 and I'll wreck you" and who had words with a guy post-qualifying) and I followed him until lap 6. Then a Viper and another VW caught and passed me on lap 9. I followed them for a bit.
Then the phone rang. Then I had to pick up and attempt to work my phone left handed while staying on the track. I managed to stay in slip for a bit but eventually fell out on lap 14. I was quite comfortable in 6th after that 7th and 8th were fighting a lot and called each other the worst player either had ever seen in the chat. Quite frankly however the result I managed to get while making a phonecall was nothing short of miraculous.
Since I usually look for this as a reference I'm going to start including my times - I finished in 27:10 in a 196 point room. I was about 20 seconds off the leaders by the end. There was actually quite the variation in lap times. I was doing 29s when in slip and anything from 30.1-30.5 without even by the last lap - the top 3 were all in the mid to low 29s with the occasional 28. Fun race in the end, though I could have done without the interlude.
Started 3rd. 1st and 2nd (BMW and VW) were both fast enough to leave me without slipstream. A Porsche passed me on lap 3 (more cleanly than you'd expect from someone whose opening message is "Im 16 and I'll wreck you" and who had words with a guy post-qualifying) and I followed him until lap 6. Then a Viper and another VW caught and passed me on lap 9. I followed them for a bit.
Then the phone rang. Then I had to pick up and attempt to work my phone left handed while staying on the track. I managed to stay in slip for a bit but eventually fell out on lap 14. I was quite comfortable in 6th after that 7th and 8th were fighting a lot and called each other the worst player either had ever seen in the chat. Quite frankly however the result I managed to get while making a phonecall was nothing short of miraculous.
Since I usually look for this as a reference I'm going to start including my times - I finished in 27:10 in a 196 point room. I was about 20 seconds off the leaders by the end. There was actually quite the variation in lap times. I was doing 29s when in slip and anything from 30.1-30.5 without even by the last lap - the top 3 were all in the mid to low 29s with the occasional 28. Fun race in the end, though I could have done without the interlude.
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- KosmoKazi
This track with a tight Gr4 field can be a cage match... hopefully I avoid some of the worst of it in my race this evening.
As a Cayman driver, I'll say that you know you're a sitting duck on long straights like at LM... especially with a car like the Viper that can pull with big power. It doesn't surprise me that you were on par at the end, as that's where it sorts out, so the guy was probably doing all he could to keep position, knowing that he was going to be able to maintain it with comparable pace... just not in a drag race on that back stretch.
Good race!
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- TPC_Abarber95
That race was interesting, put in a decent qualifying lap for 10th place with the SLS.
Start of the race and I was keeping pace with the cars ahead and was definitely faster than the Citroen directly in front of me. Annoyingly the opportunity to get past didn't present itself as I was being hassles by a Subaru behind me who eventually caused me to lose slipstream of the cars ahead.
Fast forward to lap 8 and I was coming into big bankie boi and a small tap from behind caused me to go slightly wide and as I was sliding back onto the track the same car did nothing to avoid me leaving me in 18th place. I managed to work my way back up to 14th by the last lap for 61 measly points. Without that incident and time loss I'd have finished on P9. Oh well, doubt I'll be able to get another shot at this one. Good luck to everyone yet to race or who are going again.
Start of the race and I was keeping pace with the cars ahead and was definitely faster than the Citroen directly in front of me. Annoyingly the opportunity to get past didn't present itself as I was being hassles by a Subaru behind me who eventually caused me to lose slipstream of the cars ahead.
Fast forward to lap 8 and I was coming into big bankie boi and a small tap from behind caused me to go slightly wide and as I was sliding back onto the track the same car did nothing to avoid me leaving me in 18th place. I managed to work my way back up to 14th by the last lap for 61 measly points. Without that incident and time loss I'd have finished on P9. Oh well, doubt I'll be able to get another shot at this one. Good luck to everyone yet to race or who are going again.
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- foolsgold74
Slot 1 - B/S lobby
Door 18 in the nerfed Vantage
Q3, about 1 second off my best practice time and only 9 hundredths off pole. Never hooked it up. Annoying!
Get second on lap 1 from a Mustang who had trouble on cold tyres. Then a Ferrari and a Peugeot caught me up and the FF Peugeot had better early pace, so I didn't fight on the back straight. Ferrari came through as well but I reckoned we could work together to get back to the top 2.
But the Aston nerfing really hurt that plan. Didn't have the straight line speed to properly bump draft the Ferrari on the back straight but he was slower in the twisty bits. So took him on lap 7 at BBB and pulled away.
By lap 12 I could see the Peugeot had been losing time, tyres possibly starting to go. 4 seconds quickly became 2 and in my excitement I got on the gas too early at BBB and spun
Lost 8 seconds and 2 places. Got one back a lap later (the Mustang from lap 1) but couldn't get the other Vantage who had been gifted 3rd. Had got the gap down from 4 seconds after the spin to just over 1 at the line.
76 points and about 1000DR so I guess that is OK but totally threw away an easy podium and a chance of second at least
Clean race from where I was. I'm sure I would have had a CRB but for the spin. Oh and the Aston was no problem for fuel or tyre wear (BB 0 for 3 laps then BB+2) barely noticed the tyre wear even at the end.
The FIA races are just much better fun even if this one was uneventful.
Doubt I'll have time to go again, family and all that but I won't be nursing scores in Manu or Nations anyway as I will miss a lot of rounds due to real life stuff.
Door 18 in the nerfed Vantage
Q3, about 1 second off my best practice time and only 9 hundredths off pole. Never hooked it up. Annoying!
Get second on lap 1 from a Mustang who had trouble on cold tyres. Then a Ferrari and a Peugeot caught me up and the FF Peugeot had better early pace, so I didn't fight on the back straight. Ferrari came through as well but I reckoned we could work together to get back to the top 2.
But the Aston nerfing really hurt that plan. Didn't have the straight line speed to properly bump draft the Ferrari on the back straight but he was slower in the twisty bits. So took him on lap 7 at BBB and pulled away.
By lap 12 I could see the Peugeot had been losing time, tyres possibly starting to go. 4 seconds quickly became 2 and in my excitement I got on the gas too early at BBB and spun
Lost 8 seconds and 2 places. Got one back a lap later (the Mustang from lap 1) but couldn't get the other Vantage who had been gifted 3rd. Had got the gap down from 4 seconds after the spin to just over 1 at the line.
76 points and about 1000DR so I guess that is OK but totally threw away an easy podium and a chance of second at least
Clean race from where I was. I'm sure I would have had a CRB but for the spin. Oh and the Aston was no problem for fuel or tyre wear (BB 0 for 3 laps then BB+2) barely noticed the tyre wear even at the end.
The FIA races are just much better fun even if this one was uneventful.
Doubt I'll have time to go again, family and all that
but I won't be nursing scores in Manu or Nations anyway as I will miss a lot of rounds due to real life stuff.
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What was the pole time?
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- crusselz
I think we were in the same lobby. Started ahead of you. But you got by me as I served a penalty for track limits.
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Meh. Slightly disappointing as I put reasonable amount of practice in for this and was pleased with my fastest lap in practice. Came in with door no.1 too which I wasn’t delighted with
Qualified 11th with a 1:29.2 (pole with 1:28.6), and spent most the race in a small group from 10th-12th with a few cars just out of slip behind. One guy in a corvette eventually caught up and was quite aggressive and felt the need to flash lights at everyone every time his lunging didn’t work, trying to make out it was everyone else at fault! Was in 11th with 2 laps to go, got passed by a Viper so was set to settle for 12th but an M4 in 10th with fuel obviously on critical must have had to shift to map 6 on last lap so managed to get passed with 2 corners to go.
Not exactly an exciting combo and I just couldn’t find the best line through the two last right handers and lost a couple of tenths each lap there. Only just cleared 100 points which is disappointing too. Not going again!
Oh and I qualified with the exact same time as the car in 10th. How does PD decide who starts in front of the other? Obviously wasn’t based on DR with me as car no.1!!
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#TeamZeroStop!
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- Zorzil
I think it's whoever set the time first? Pretty sure that's how it's handled in F1 at least... so you'd hope they'd use the precedent!Oh and I qualified with the exact same time as the car in 10th. How does PD decide who starts in front of the other? Obviously wasn’t based on DR with me as car no.1!!
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- foolsgold74
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- equus_ferrum
Did you set your time after they did? If so, it could go by who set the time first. I believe that's how they do it in F1.Oh and I qualified with the exact same time as the car in 10th. How does PD decide who starts in front of the other? Obviously wasn’t based on DR with me as car no.1!!
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Not actually sure who set it first. Maybe it was him. Didn’t even notice I had the same time until the grid walk
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