2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

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Better late than never ay chaps. Manu r5Slot 1 B/S lobby. Qualified p10. Up to 6th after lap 1 then stayed there for most of the race. Others pitted and I gained a few spots but was eventually overtaken by pole sitter on softs. Running in p5 then until the end of the race. Had a mate on my ass for all the race and his Jaaag was slowly whittling away at my lead. I accidentally shoved him into the wall at t4 on lap 1 because I could not get over far enough, fast enough. He recovered and hassled me for the rest of the race. Crossed the line in 5th but elevated to 4th after pole sitter and fastest lap fool in a scirocco got himself a tyre penalty. Thank your mum for me. :D
Oh ye, no stop.
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Well that was surprisingly good fun. D17 Q10 and after the starting couple of laps with a bit of pushing I'm sitting 5th and we're making space so all looks good for a decent finish. 1st was getting a small lead and then I dropped a little behind on lap 8 and then on lap 9 as we approached the braking zone the 3 in front start fighting :confused: so I manage the corner really well take them all and by the line I've got a 0.5 lead on 3rd and by 10 it was over a second so just 1st to think about. He had 1.8 on me and for a few lap it went up and down, had it to 1.2 and the back up. Lap 15 I was a little slow and he did a blinder so he' 2.5 in front and I basically gave up. I had 4 secs on 3rd and too far behind to catch, pushing might have made him muck up and I get 1st or I muck up and come 5th or even worse.
So really surprised to get a decent race there, but then I was lucky to get near the front and then lucky again to have made a slight error the lap before they thought fighting was a good idea.
 
Ran my run in the goofball 500. And it lived up to the name. Qualified p4, helping push the polesitter to his lap as well. From the off it was ok for 1 lap, then everyone started diving. No one seemed to work together. I tried to work with people and form packs, but we would get a pack of 3, then I would get dived and shuffled back. Usually just enough to have the next group get my slip. Then when they came up to dive me we would lose the group in front.

Maybe it was something I ate? Anyway. Did the best I could trying to work with people and eventually just went from trying to keep a line together for the top 4 to hoping to get a top 10. Nope. A user with a troll name very similar to a troll username from the US gave a huge dive and shoved me wide lap 19. Then when i catch at the end of 20 they go super defensive, but just go way wide to push me off anyway for good measure. P11.

Faith in my fellow racers ability to work together completely gone now after the last 2 races. Waaaaay too short sighted with no seeming knowledge of the slipstream effect. I knew not much was happening, and it delivered.

Have fun all, go ultra defensive and just run people wide. It seems to be how people want to run this one.
 
So after a couple frosty adult beverages I decided that screw it. I got nothing else on, I'll run last slot. How bad could it be?

End up door 16 of 16 in a severely weakened top split. Qualified p8 and another guy who had the same problems as me in my last lobby was p9. Amazing differences in this lobby. A tight train forms quickly and we click off a couple of laps. 1 guy gets squirrely so he gets slid out of line. I get nudged into the sharp turn at 1 point so drop a spot again. But it is to the guy from my previous lobby. We had joked about not belonging in this one.

We teamed up. Me all over his bumper pushing every chance I got. Not moving at all or taking any chances. At one point the battling up ahead allowed us to close to the leaders again, but they kind of noticed and went back in a line to drive away. We caught and passed one other car who started falling behind. Last 2 laps I had good shots at passing my partner, but on 19 I bumped him into a small slide so eased back into line and last lap I just couldn't manage it, was only up to his front wheel at the line. P7, career high 175 points. And a vastly different experience.

2 people in the back from my earlier lobby who were bad for trying to pass every corner were getting a lot of heat from others in the lobby for doing the same thing again. Some people just never learn. Glad I learned a bit and had a friend who was ready to work and go, no matter how little time we had spent becoming friends.

Good luck to the rest of you participating in the meme race of the season.
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The Mini race is one of those that looks fun on paper, but the actual race has poorly thought out settings and is a total borefest. SH is too grippy for stock power, and it's too slipstream dependent. You just cannot race. If you pull out of the slip train > you fall back. If you try to overtake on the last corner > you compromise the exit and with slipstream you'll lose the position again before the first turn. So it's pretty much just holding station for 19 laps and then go YOLO on the last turn.

If it was me, I'd crank up the Mini to max power, min weight, Comfort Softs, Strong Slipstream and 10x tyre wear. Now we have a proper brawl :lol:

I didn't enter this race. But I'm hearing that everyone in top split disconnected from Nations slot 1 on the Oceania server before matchmaking.

Unfortunately I'm not very surprised

Yep, happened to me and about half dozen other people in top split also said it happened to them. I can count on one hand the number of disconnects I had in FIA since 2019, so the server must've been really, really, messed up there :banghead:
 
So, in the next Nations, what will the fast racers REALLY be using?

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My cornering speed is higher than the FFs. Not to mention the Grid Start is going to kill them as well.
Maybe someone gets bold with the Slophy or 4C? ANyway, would nice if I had some help to topple these FFs on the Leaderboard. Optimum is a .207. Think I'm done for now.
 
Thanks for pointing that out as I would have wasted time practicing with racing as you really don't think race cars will even be able to use sports. So yeah might try a few laps, but can't see me wanting to do it at all now.
Never a waste of time practising. But it'll be interesting for sure. I like to do everything as it helps you learn and builds experience. And there's always a case of you never know. This ticks all those boxes. Last manu with the RS01 I learnt quite a lot about my car control and I'd say I'm miles better now. This will be a race that tests your car control so it'll definitely be worth a go.
 
So, in the next Nations, what will the fast racers REALLY be using?

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My cornering speed is higher than the FFs. Not to mention the Grid Start is going to kill them as well.
Maybe someone gets bold with the Slophy or 4C? ANyway, would nice if I had some help to topple these FFs on the Leaderboard. Optimum is a .207. Think I'm done for now.
The Slophy was Meta on the full Autopolis in the last group 4 daily there. Don’t know how it will go on the short version. I haven’t tried the combo yet. Will tyres be an issue for the FFs?
 
Well that was a waste of time, should have quit after the good race this morning. People shoving and then getting upset because people shove back. I was racing for 6th at the beginning and just kept getting bumped back always in a way that I lost time and couldn't get up with those I was racing. I started bumping back, wasn't getting a decent finish so lets have some fun. Well not really much fun. Not bothering again and not sure if I'll bother tomorrow as it will be more of the same.
Good luck to any going for this, but if you get a bad Q I'd save my sanity and quit.
 
Mini madness...

Total and utter waste of time. Zero race craft required. My thumb hurts.

For those of an age, remember those rolling road arcade machines with the Dinky car on a stick....‍♂️
I half expected candy floss or a toffee apple when I finished. I’m sure I caught the whiff of over-boiled onions at one point.
 
An enjoyable race for the most parts. Too many people happy to shovel you wide. Thankfully the most aggressive person into the hairpin was me so able to get to the front of my particular melee easily.
Qualified 9th. Mucked up my final lap which would have gotten me a few positions further forward. From then it was a case of try and work forward even trying to help a few but it was just a battle with those around you. Mer and a surprisingly un-neutral aggressive Swiss driver managed to brake free and hunt down those ahead who were starting to fight. Was probably a lap too late but we both mugged a guy into the hairpin at the end. I finished ahead in P6.
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One and done in the end. I've gained a few more points on the leaderboard as this is now my 2nd highest haul of points. Will need to go and have a think for what to use at Autopolis.
 
What night have been.

Very surprising qualifying, would start P2 in a 196 point lobby.

Feeling excited at the start. Bounced between 2nd and 7th for the first 12 laps but very tightly packed so a good result still possible.

Nope. A Spaniard took the braking zone turn as if he was taking instructions from a co-driver. As a result I get punted and lose a lot of spots, eventually finishing 15th.

Will be going again, can't be any worse
 
Much better!

Take 2 of the Mini meme trophy. Qualified 2nd again (can't wait for manufacturers to get back to mid table mediocrity). Finished 2nd for 177 (PB) points.

Have the qualifying nailed down for this it seems. Settled into position at the start, prepared to grind out the laps. P1 bins it at the braking turn end of first lap so into first.

A Spaniard decided they'd be better suited to heading the peleton on lap 4 so back into second. Stayed that way until lap 16, back into first but the Spaniard would retake the position on lap 19, well done to them.

Very pleasing result, amazing things can happen when you avoid the maelstrom.
 
Nations - Mini Madness @ Miyabi

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I went into the race having clocked a 56.7 in Time Trial, feeling optimistic about my pace. I spent qualifying bump-drafting my compatriot, putting us 2nd and 3rd on the grid respectively.

The launch off the line went well, as I kept 2nd throughout the first lap. Then a very scrappy driver lucked out big time and got a lag-related turbo boost down the home straight, taking the lead and effectively securing Fastest Lap.

Of course, his lead was short-lived, as the other frontrunners including myself quickly reeled him in with slipstream, bump drafting and the help of another lag boost provided by me to a black and white rival to help close the gap to Mr. Scrappy. By this point, we had already broken away from the pack, working together to stay ahead.
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At least, most of us were. Mr. Scrappy apparently did not get the memo about this being a slipstream race, constantly insisting on making moves into the braking zone, banging doors and slowing us down. We ended up forcing him down to 4th by the chicane on lap 7, where he briefly lifted off as I went 2-wide into the chicane with him. That lift-off proved to be a mistake for him, as we were able to pull away at full speed and leave him to be devoured by the pack.

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As Mr. Scrappy was left to fight amongst the midfield, the three of us spent the rest of the race working together. The black and white Mini and I nearly lost the leading yellow Mini after a messy tangle out of the second hairpin, forcing us to play catch up. We were able to rejoin the yellow Mini on lap 18, just as the real battle was about to begin.

Just as we caught the yellow Mini, I ended up getting shuffled down to 3rd and spent most of the final laps there while the black and white Mini took the lead on lap 19 with a dive up the inside at the braking zone. On the final lap, realising that the yellow Mini was neither attacking nor defending into the braking zone, I made my own move.



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To be honest, I am not sure what to say about this incident. On the one hand, leaving the door wide open into the final passing zone on the final lap with a car right behind you and not expecting some sort of attack is... optimistic, to put it mildly. On the other hand, I was not alongside the yellow Mini and I did make the move from quite far back.

Nevertheless, the move put me back up to 2nd at the line for 213 points, breaking my career best again. I apologised to the yellow Mini for the scruffy pass, which he accepted.
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As for Mr. Scrappy, he spent the rest of the race bashing doors with the midfield and slowing everyone around him down. That was bad enough, but what sealed the deal on my opinion of him was him outright shoving someone into the pit wall right at the line and sending his victim down from 10th to 16th. Understandably, the other driver was less than thrilled with his move and said as much in the post-race chat.

One and done for me. I am NOT going to have a good time at the upcoming Yaris race, considering my inflated DR from the Green Hell plus this race and the fact that I suck at driving the Yaris (going by my mediocre result at the previous incarnation of that race).
 
I was lookng forward to this one, My first car was a '73 Mini Clubman so I love the little monsters!

Slot 1- Garbage:
Qualified 15th, just could not put a decent lap together (my best free practice time is 56.5, my best quali time was 57.8). Race was OK until the last lap, had got up to 8th, went into the hairpin 8th, got shunted by someone sending up the inside. Finished 15th.

Slot 2- Better, not great
Was having a similar qualifying until the last lap when I somehow managed to stick it on pole.

Had a guy in the chat both before quali and before the race saying 'please work together', so obviously he sent it on the second lap and totally knackered my exit :boggled:. Had some more, erm, lively passes at that corner and by lap 10 I was in seventh, but still in sight of the leaders and with a 3 second gap to eighth, so still promising. Two German drivers in 5th and 6th place decided to duke it out on EVERY corner from then on, so I watched the front 4 disappear into the distance and the gap behind dwindle while these pair of idiots messed each other (and me) up time and time again! One of them gets a track limits penalty on lap 18, I pass him on lap 19 just before he serves it, and finish a car length in front of the Russian who had closed the gap, in 6th. Again.

I'm at a low B dr and at this level people just don't get it, at least one of the three of us could have had a podium!


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Ended up qualifying midpack for this one, dropped all the way to the back at the start and then there was a field split. Managed to work with someone to get upto like P10 but then got shuffled back down by the end.
Interesting race, probably a fun one if you don't take it too seriously
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Waste of time.

Running 56.9xx in practice so should be OK in DR B if not spectacular.

Qualy is a shambles, people wanting to go 3 wide dive bomb special into the final turn. 57.417 for Q14:cool:

Race was worse, constant shoving in the final hairpin instead of settling into slipstream. Tried flashing lights, tucking in etc. No-one got the message. Isn't it obvious that with such slow cars and almost no braking, fighting hurts all of us?!!

Ended up fighting hard for p13 :banghead: 60 points. Even in this pathetic Nations cup run I'm having this won't count.

Maybe Wednesday won't be a lobby full of knuckleheads!
 
Nations - Mini Madness @ Miyabi

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I went into the race having clocked a 56.7 in Time Trial, feeling optimistic about my pace. I spent qualifying bump-drafting my compatriot, putting us 2nd and 3rd on the grid respectively.

The launch off the line went well, as I kept 2nd throughout the first lap. Then a very scrappy driver lucked out big time and got a lag-related turbo boost down the home straight, taking the lead and effectively securing Fastest Lap.

Of course, his lead was short-lived, as the other frontrunners including myself quickly reeled him in with slipstream, bump drafting and the help of another lag boost provided by me to a black and white rival to help close the gap to Mr. Scrappy. By this point, we had already broken away from the pack, working together to stay ahead.
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At least, most of us were. Mr. Scrappy apparently did not get the memo about this being a slipstream race, constantly insisting on making moves into the braking zone, banging doors and slowing us down. We ended up forcing him down to 4th by the chicane on lap 7, where he briefly lifted off as I went 2-wide into the chicane with him. That lift-off proved to be a mistake for him, as we were able to pull away at full speed and leave him to be devoured by the pack.

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As Mr. Scrappy was left to fight amongst the midfield, the three of us spent the rest of the race working together. The black and white Mini and I nearly lost the leading yellow Mini after a messy tangle out of the second hairpin, forcing us to play catch up. We were able to rejoin the yellow Mini on lap 18, just as the real battle was about to begin.

Just as we caught the yellow Mini, I ended up getting shuffled down to 3rd and spent most of the final laps there while the black and white Mini took the lead on lap 19 with a dive up the inside at the braking zone. On the final lap, realising that the yellow Mini was neither attacking nor defending into the braking zone, I made my own move.



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To be honest, I am not sure what to say about this incident. On the one hand, leaving the door wide open into the final passing zone on the final lap with a car right behind you and not expecting some sort of attack is... optimistic, to put it mildly. On the other hand, I was not alongside the yellow Mini and I did make the move from quite far back.

Nevertheless, the move put me back up to 2nd at the line for 213 points, breaking my career best again. I apologised to the yellow Mini for the scruffy pass, which he accepted.
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As for Mr. Scrappy, he spent the rest of the race bashing doors with the midfield and slowing everyone around him down. That was bad enough, but what sealed the deal on my opinion of him was him outright shoving someone into the pit wall right at the line and sending his victim down from 10th to 16th. Understandably, the other driver was less than thrilled with his move and said as much in the post-race chat.

One and done for me. I am NOT going to have a good time at the upcoming Yaris race, considering my inflated DR from the Green Hell plus this race and the fact that I suck at driving the Yaris (going by my mediocre result at the previous incarnation of that race).

I was lookng forward to this one, My first car was a '73 Mini Clubman so I love the little monsters!

Slot 1- Garbage:
Qualified 15th, just could not put a decent lap together (my best free practice time is 56.5, my best quali time was 57.8). Race was OK until the last lap, had got up to 8th, went into the hairpin 8th, got shunted by someone sending up the inside. Finished 15th.

Slot 2- Better, not great
Was having a similar qualifying until the last lap when I somehow managed to stick it on pole.

Had a guy in the chat both before quali and before the race saying 'please work together', so obviously he sent it on the second lap and totally knackered my exit :boggled:. Had some more, erm, lively passes at that corner and by lap 10 I was in seventh, but still in sight of the leaders and with a 3 second gap to eighth, so still promising. Two German drivers in 5th and 6th place decided to duke it out on EVERY corner from then on, so I watched the front 4 disappear into the distance and the gap behind dwindle while these pair of idiots messed each other (and me) up time and time again! One of them gets a track limits penalty on lap 18, I pass him on lap 19 just before he serves it, and finish a car length in front of the Russian who had closed the gap, in 6th. Again.

I'm at a low B dr and at this level people just don't get it, at least one of the three of us could have had a podium!


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Ended up qualifying midpack for this one, dropped all the way to the back at the start and then there was a field split. Managed to work with someone to get upto like P10 but then got shuffled back down by the end.
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SO many really nice liveries! Nicely done gentlemen....
 
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