2023 September Update Prediction

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F4H Super GT
Classic tracks: Apricot Hill, Autumn Ring, El Capitan, Midfield Raceway, Rome, Seattle Circuit, Special Stage Route 5, Tokyo R246.
Real tracks: Twin Ring Motegi, Silverstone, Pikes Peak Hillclimb, Montreal.

Cars: Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca, Toyota GT-One, Nissan R390 GT1, Ruf CTR Yellowbird

Missions: 24 Hour races.

Surely this isn't too much to ask for one update :lol:
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F4H Super GT
Classic tracks: Apricot Hill, Autumn Ring, El Capitan, Midfield Raceway, Rome, Seattle Circuit, Special Stage Route 5, Tokyo R246.
Real tracks: Twin Ring Motegi, Silverstone, Pikes Peak Hillclimb, Montreal.

Cars: Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca, Toyota GT-One, Nissan R390 GT1, Ruf CTR Yellowbird

Missions: 24 Hour races.

Surely this isn't too much to ask for one update :lol:
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One update. Sounds like a whole new game to me.
 
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Nebuc72
I am an end user, and I would like to know what they fixed.

If it was under the hood stability changes, I would like it to say that they made under the hood stability changes.
Not just "we fixed stuff lol"
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"To be fair" - they say "Improved general game stability." - at least you get an idea what they improved

miles better than "Fixed various bugs"
 
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Gran Turismo, the real monthly update scavenger hunt simulator ;)

This is now what we are reduced to: looking for tiny changes they made in this game...

No longer about the game...it's "Guess what we spent our time doing last month in our offices"!

so my prediction for September:

PD will try to hide a couple of easter eggs in the game code, and we need to find them in order to try to guess what they are trying to do with this game, the solution will be fully revealed in 2027
 
CMB350
I respectfully disagree. For actual racing, there’s not enough tracks. It’s one of the reasons the same handful of tracks get repeated constantly in Sport Mode.
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I think it's a mix of things.

The cars especially with BOP are getting quite samey now especially as we are hitting the repeat shuffle of the Sports list playlist. Adjusting the bop or creating a new meta each rotation is starting to get old.

So more tracks or track variations is definitely needed.

But I'd also argue some actual clubsport level races again with proper tires and sprint circuit layouts would be a return to launch and a very welcome refresh to ranked sport.

More cars would be nice but in all honesty personally they need to have a purpose for racing online but mine is a very blinkered view on that front which I completely am aware of.
 
newmedia_dev
But I'd also argue some actual clubsport level races again with proper tires and sprint circuit layouts would be a return to launch and a very welcome refresh to ranked sport.
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I agree 100%.
newmedia_dev
More cars would be nice but in all honesty personally they need to have a purpose for racing online but mine is a very blinkered view on that front which I completely am aware of.
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I hear you on this. I’m sure my views on more cars are wildly different than a majority of the game base. I want specific cars for specific types of racing that doesn’t even exist within this game. I’m completely aware that my ideas are a pipe dream with regards to this game.
 
I’m not going to say we don’t need more tracks, but there are plenty. If PD were to start at in alpahbetcal order for Race A, reverse order for Race B and alternate for Race C, there are enough to not repeat the same layout. I don’t do the Daily Races, so I don’t know when the last time Northern Isle was used. Or Lago West End Reverse.
It’s mainly the use of cars that need to be done more creatively.

Have there been use only the GT Awards car races?
Any BMW M2 vs Shelby Mustang vs Camaro ZL1 vs Supra vs new Z races?
Any Mini ‘65 vs Toyota 800 ‘65 races?

It’s all a matter of coming up with easy ways to utilise the car list. There could just be Tsukuba in the game, but using every car from A to Z, would give so much variety of play. We have the luxury of being able to globe trot, imagine real life of just having one car to visit one circuit. The main problem are variation, not that we need more for the same lack of variation.
 
05XR8
I’m not going to say we don’t need more tracks, but there are plenty. If PD were to start at in alpahbetcal order for Race A, reverse order for Race B and alternate for Race C, there are enough to not repeat the same layout. I don’t do the Daily Races, so I don’t know when the last time Northern Isle was used. Or Lago West End Reverse.
It’s mainly the use of cars that need to be done more creatively.

Have there been use only the GT Awards car races?
Any BMW M2 vs Shelby Mustang vs Camaro ZL1 vs Supra vs new Z races?
Any Mini ‘65 vs Toyota 800 ‘65 races?

It’s all a matter of coming up with easy ways to utilise the car list. There could just be Tsukuba in the game, but using every car from A to Z, would give so much variety of play. We have the luxury of being able to globe trot, imagine real life of just having one car to visit one circuit. The main problem are variation, not that we need more for the same lack of variation.
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I think the problem for sport players is we get shafted with road car races quite honestly.

Daily A started as a road car single make race (ranked) but with proper tires so you had clio cup at brands or scirroco at Nurbs gp.

It was also an accessible gateway, slower cars, tight grids and very forgiving.

Now it's unranked and the experimental playground for a lot of cars races.

So everyone that races online to improve ranking has moved on from those races and while PD to their credit try to mix up B and C races they really are hit and miss on where they land with the community.

I don't think it's the lack of circuits or creativity, I think it's the half in half our commitment they show to both TT and Sport racing.

Let alone the shame that Single Player is when it's all there. Cars, tracks, AI to a degree they just drop the metaphorical ball across the board and no one is really happy.
 
If late September gets an update my guess is: 3-4 new cars, 3-4 new races, more scapes, 5 more engine swaps or so and possibly an update to the Legend Car dealer that inflate the prices even more.
 
February was the last new track update (GV Highway) and March was the last track layout update (Nurb Sprint).

Forget new tracks, looking at the current track list there are a few new layouts begging to be added that would only take a few minutes of work adding/removing barriers and updating the game UI.

Daytona NASCAR chicane
Northern Isle & SSRX Reverse
St Croix Outer Loop, Inner Loop
Goodwood No Chicane
Red Bull Ring Club
Kyoto Miyabi Reverse
Suzuka West, Motorcycle Chicane & No Chicane (imagine full throttle slipstream battles from the exit of Spoon to T1)
Tsukuba Chicane

For bonus, they can add "free roam" layouts where all barriers are removed for tracks with multiple layouts like St Croix, Maggiore or Sardegna. Imagine cruising or cops & robber lobbies online.

Then add circuit experiences for every track layout including reverse variants. Seriously, we have 6 CEs for Tokyo but only 1 for St Croix? Come on PD.

I agree there should be more variation on daily races and TTs with lesser used car and track combos as well. Give the Gr.1/2/3/4 cars a break for once (or even restrict to one make so people drive anything other than the metas). The problem is most people who play Sport mode aren't an adventurous bunch. You can see whenever there's a TT with road cars and road tyres people in the TT thread just moan endlessly why they have no brakes of grip. The people who prefer road cars, we don't really have an option other than Daily A which is unranked, so once you do it once or twice there's no point.

This game has plenty of content already. But PD just under utilises 90% of it. So many championship race ideas but they keep regurgitating the same races. Adding 3-5 new cars isn't gonna do much if the player don't really have any incentive to use it offline or online. I know custom races exist but would be nice to have "official" events with bigger payouts.
 
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F4H Super GT
Classic tracks: Apricot Hill, Autumn Ring, El Capitan, Midfield Raceway, Rome, Seattle Circuit, Special Stage Route 5, Tokyo R246.
Real tracks: Twin Ring Motegi, Silverstone, Pikes Peak Hillclimb, Montreal.

Cars: Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca, Toyota GT-One, Nissan R390 GT1, Ruf CTR Yellowbird

Missions: 24 Hour races.

Surely this isn't too much to ask for one update :lol:
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Yeah, I've got a very strong hunch that as long as Porsche is licensing their cars for use in Gran Turismo, you're never going to see a Porsche based RUF again. Notice how the only RUF we have at the moment is their rather odd mid-engine 911 morph. The direct 911 and Boxster "clones" disappeared as soon as Porsche "entered" GT. I love the Yellow Bird but we'll never see it again. And frankly, if we have to chose one or the other I think we got the better end of the deal.
 
I really like to know what hundreds of employes do at PD Every month, updates are so Little Every month, in Gt sport era they could release 10 car per month and more events, i would like to know how many Cars and tracks are ready for release and they are keeping them for GT8
 
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I really like to know what hundreds of employes do at PD Every month, updates are so Little Every month, in Gt sport era they could release 10 car per month and more events, i would like to know how many Cars and tracks are ready for release and they are keeping them for GT8
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Without making any comment about the current rate of content in GT7, early GT Sport (and it was only early GT Sport) could do 10 cars a month for a few reasons that aren't true today:

  • Reviews for Sport criticised it harshly for lack of content, so PD probably shifted resources towards quickly correcting that.
  • Once the above decision got made that returning road car content was welcome, there were lots of PS3 Premiums that were early choices for those updates, which, while still quality, take less time than fresh scans. By now they've likely re-added a lot of the Premiums that PD are interested in (as opposed to Premiums that are only so because they were 2006-13 cars. Like why a lot of 1997-98 GT2 cars weren't priorities in GT3/4).
  • Game development is just significantly slower in 2023 than it was in 2017, across every genre and size of dev staff. PD are not immune to this.
 
Considering the PS+ price spike, my prediction for the September update:
  • The Himedic and GR Corolla show up at Brand Central, with the Corolla going for more than the 71,500 Cr. indicated by the price of its new engine/new body.
  • Hagerty's gets a double dose of price hikes to make up for missing the summer price hikes originally scheduled for June.
  • Full standard CRB rules apply to the wet Tokyo WTC 600 (adding wall collisions to the DQ list), Sarthe WTC 700, Sardegna WTC 800 and Spa WTC 800.
  • No other new cars, tracks, or events (much less Menu Books).
 
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Nakano219
Without making any comment about the current rate of content in GT7, early GT Sport (and it was only early GT Sport) could do 10 cars a month for a few reasons that aren't true today:

  • Reviews for Sport criticised it harshly for lack of content, so PD probably shifted resources towards quickly correcting that.
  • Once the above decision got made that returning road car content was welcome, there were lots of PS3 Premiums that were early choices for those updates, which, while still quality, take less time than fresh scans. By now they've likely re-added a lot of the Premiums that PD are interested in (as opposed to Premiums that are only so because they were 2006-13 cars. Like why a lot of 1997-98 GT2 cars weren't priorities in GT3/4).
  • Game development is just significantly slower in 2023 than it was in 2017, across every genre and size of dev staff. PD are not immune to this.
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I largely agree with you... But... A lot of what people are asking for are improvements that date back to Sport... There's no way in hell that an improved penalty system takes 6+ years to develop lol.

On a more positive note (unusual for me lol), I think PD held back this month because they'll debut something more meaningful to rain on Forza's parade.
 
More wishful thinking than prediction, but...

Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C '09
Ferrari SF90 Stradale AF '20
Toyota GT-One TS020 '99
MB 190E 2.5-16 Evo II '92
Nissan Xanavi Nismo Z '06
Chevy Chevelle SS 454 '70

Track: Eiger Nordwand or Circuit Gilles Villeneuve
 
Eggstor
Considering the PS+ price spike, my prediction for the September update:
  • The Himedic and GR Corolla show up at Brand Central, with the Corolla going for more than the 71,500 Cr. indicated by the price of its new engine/new body.
  • Hagerty's gets a double dose of price hikes to make up for missing the summer price hikes originally scheduled for June.
  • Full standard CRB rules apply to the wet Tokyo WTC 600 (adding wall collisions to the DQ list), Sarthe WTC 700, Sardegna WTC 800 and Spa WTC 800.
  • No other new cars, tracks, or events (much less Menu Books).
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So to make the game worst then.
 
LeGeNd-1
Then add circuit experiences for every track layout including reverse variants. Seriously, we have 6 CEs for Tokyo but only 1 for St Croix? Come on PD.
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Can I back this up with like a beverage of some kind? I'm partial to a root beer floats, but different tastes exist.
 
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WolfpackS2k
Yeah, I've got a very strong hunch that as long as Porsche is licensing their cars for use in Gran Turismo, you're never going to see a Porsche based RUF again. Notice how the only RUF we have at the moment is their rather odd mid-engine 911 morph. The direct 911 and Boxster "clones" disappeared as soon as Porsche "entered" GT. I love the Yellow Bird but we'll never see it again. And frankly, if we have to chose one or the other I think we got the better end of the deal.
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The Yelowbird was on the leaked list.
 
The bring the biggest and better update yet by the end of the month so people don't go play the new Forza :dopey:;)
 
I sure hope there’s a track or tracks in there. I would also like to see some changes regarded lobby hosting control/booting and blocking and the ability to toggle HUD on and off with a button at the very least. As for predictions your guess is as good as mine, I never know what’s coming to this game. Their best update was their more realistic physics changes update, track updates and older cars that have character.
 
My predictions:

5 Cars:
  • not the new Audi R8
  • not a post 2010 Audi RS
  • not a 2000's Audi RS
  • not a 1990's Audi RS
  • not a classic Audi

Tracks:
- not a beloved classic GT course

Other:
  • no new missions
  • no new well paid races so we could finally stop grinding 3 races forever
  • no fix for the broken steering wheel and wheels movement when using a DualSense or DualShock
  • no more tracks with added rain
 
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