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Honda switching to Aston Martin for 2026 was my understanding, that's all.
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Thought so.
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TMU, the question Horner was responding to was asked in a way of, "Why weren't you doing more for Daniel?" & this was his way of saying he had been b/c he apparently shared it was Marko who wanted Daniel out after Spain. Another moment highlighting the internal power struggle Red Bull has been having this year.
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Not at all does it surprise me that this was yet another Marko decision (the same guy who DIDN'T think Lawson was good enough..and yet, guess who Daniel was replaced with). Swear this guy is single handily the reason Red Bull's Driver program is broken in the first place..
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Is it a tad bit over-reactionary to say I hate Red Bull now?
The entire way this has been handled should put every single one of their junior drivers on permanent guard and looking out for their futures with their best interests in mind, not Red Bull's. Now, Marko is claiming Danny knew well in advance that Liam was replacing him, which actually (and quite literally) flies in the face of the way the race weekend was handled. You could see Daniel's mannerisms and attitude change throughout the weekend in real-time!
From a Speedweek column:
Full article here if you're interested in everything: It's in German so use a translator if necessary
And here's Swedish F1 Journalist Scott Mitchell Malm's recount on how things transpired during the Singapore weekend:
Just...utterly perplexed how this is the way things played out without any care or consideration of the way Toro Rosso played its part in 🤬 over both Danny and Yuki. And if they think the same won't happen to Liam then, goddammit, make me the Team Principal if they're that naïve.
The entire way this has been handled should put every single one of their junior drivers on permanent guard and looking out for their futures with their best interests in mind, not Red Bull's. Now, Marko is claiming Danny knew well in advance that Liam was replacing him, which actually (and quite literally) flies in the face of the way the race weekend was handled. You could see Daniel's mannerisms and attitude change throughout the weekend in real-time!
From a Speedweek column:
Full article here if you're interested in everything: It's in German so use a translator if necessary
And here's Swedish F1 Journalist Scott Mitchell Malm's recount on how things transpired during the Singapore weekend:
Just...utterly perplexed how this is the way things played out without any care or consideration of the way Toro Rosso played its part in 🤬 over both Danny and Yuki. And if they think the same won't happen to Liam then, goddammit, make me the Team Principal if they're that naïve.
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Just more clear proof that if your last name isn't Verstappen, RBR considers you a bag of packing peanuts in a helmet.
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https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...-red-bull-family-as-he.35V3EQeLJzy5aYtsQHAEpA
I'd like to quote something real quick:
I'd like to quote something real quick:
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Bortoleto gets the 2nd seat at Audi. Happy to see another new face on the grid, but a bit sad that it's the end of the road for Bottas (he's going to be the Mercedes reserve).
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Yeah sad to see Bottas go, so much potential in there somewhere that was so close to being realised at Mercedes. But it is good to see a wave of top young drivers coming through again, something F1 needs every now and then is new drivers coming up otherwise you just have a grid of mediocrity.
Just wish Aston would grow a pair and put Drugovich in for Stroll.
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Can't remember another season that had so many new young drivers stepping up. 2019 maybe? Giovanazzi, Norris, Russel, Albon.
*Race experience rookies.
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Adelaide native here, I guess I’ll start seeing Bottas around town a lot more often now.
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I may have to boot up F1 Manager and get him a WDC. If I remember right he was rated very well in the first one and Alfa were quite easy to upgrade.
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Wonder if he might make the jump to Supercars or if he is the F1 driver touted with a rally drive in WRC.
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He was asked about it and said “Eventually you’ll see me doing a Supercars race, no doubt”. Source.
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Bottas won't be on 2025 F1 grid as Bortoleto replaces him at Sauber
Valtteri Bottas won't be on the 2025 Formula 1 grid with McLaren junior Gabriel Bortoleto replacing him at Sauber
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Means there will be no Finns on the grid for the first time since Hungary 1994 at this rate.
(Excluding non-starters)
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Figured that Audi would be cleaning house when they take over next year. I have to admit it is getting quite interesting seeing how much new blood is coming into the grid next season, I had thought everyone would wait until 2026 to really shake things up.
So it looks like Bottas is going to be camping in Mercedes' simulator until he probably gets offered an Indycar seat (unless Antonelli proves to be a complete washout), and Zhou will likely vanish into Formula E and be a mention in some Youtuber's "What ever happened to them" video in five years or so.
So it looks like Bottas is going to be camping in Mercedes' simulator until he probably gets offered an Indycar seat (unless Antonelli proves to be a complete washout), and Zhou will likely vanish into Formula E and be a mention in some Youtuber's "What ever happened to them" video in five years or so.
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I can see Zhou going back to F2.
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Even as a Finn, I don't think the potential ever was there. He had a couple of successes in the Williams but then again, so did Pastor Maldonado and there's a guy nobody rates at all - and for a reason. Bottas did well in the Mercedes but the car was so stupidly fast that even GP2 drivers could top testing time sheets with it (it actually happened) and the only driver we can compare him to is Hamilton. And while I'm certainly opening a can of worms here, Hamilton isn't exactly unbeatable himself - he's been outscored over a full season by Rosberg, Button, and now at least once, perhaps twice by Russell in similar cars. Bottas was never even anywhere near.
Mercedes won the constructors' championship every year Bottas drove for them, yet he couldn't even be the runner up every time. Even with DAS, oil burning engines and the party mode, they had it all and he still didn't manage. And now he's being outrun by Zhou, another guy who nobody rates and again for a reason.
So potential? Not a lot since the junior formula days.
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It’s about damn time. GPDA is finally standing on business and I'm here for it.
