2024 US Presidential Election Thread

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RFK Jr. dropped out and the belief is a lot of those votes will go to Trump.
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Like Nikki Haley, I think a lot of those supporters were there because of how they felt about Trump. It's not like they were unaware of him, or were unaware of the low chances of success with RFK. I'm not sure it's a slam dunk that most of them go to Trump, or even vote at all. They were not with Trump for a reason.
 
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One thing I agree with RFK on is that the DNC is toxic. Country would be so much better if the DNC, the Neocons, and the weirdos who infiltrated the Heritage Foundation went away.
 
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Danoff
Care to elaborate on exactly what it is that you find toxic about the DNC? I assume you mean the entire democratic party rather than the democratic national convention.
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Toxic? They didn't even announce Britney Spears as a special guest. I'd've liked to see W. Bush show up so he and the Chicks could reconcile on stage and unite against Trump.

Seriously, though, what's so insidious about reproductive freedom? I thought it was what most of the country wanted.
 
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Trump:
www.independent.co.uk

Trump accuses Obamas of getting too ‘personal’ with their attacks

Trump has been urged by advisors and conservative commentators to target Kamala Harris’s record instead of making personal attacks
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
Also Trump:
abcnews.go.com

Trump says he's 'entitled' to make personal attacks on Harris, citing lack of respect

"She's not smart. I don't believe she loves our country," he said.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
Meanwhile:
newrepublic.com

Trump Suddenly Looks Very Afraid of Being Sued by Taylor Swift

Donald Trump now wants nothing to do with the A.I. images he shared just a few days ago.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com
 
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It's possible Trump could avoid getting in trouble if he learns to close his mouth. Unfortunately, it is more possible he avoids getting in trouble than him learning how to close his mouth.
 
H/t @RonFilipkowski on Twixter. Trump sounds like he's chickening out of September 10th's debate after previously agreeing the date:

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So he agrees initially to the Sept. 10th debate, then flouts an "agreed" Fox News debate as an excuse to back out if Harris didn't agree (rightly so), then reassures he will be there Sept. 10th. And now, he's again, putting the idea out there he might back out.

I think Donny's just desperate to stay in the news cycle for some reason b/c actually pulling out of the debate after this back-and-forth from him & him alone would probably have a negative effect on his chances.
 
Seems to be a lot of chatter about what it means that Harris is asking that the microphones remain unmuted during the debate after Biden asked for them to be muted. As far as I can tell, the chatter misses the point. Biden complained that Trump kept yelling after his microphone cut out, and that Biden had to respond while Trump yelled next to him. The audience at home couldn't hear Trump but Biden could. I can see why the Harris campaign would rather that you heard him ignore the instructions.
 
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Danoff
Seems to be a lot of chatter about what it means that Harris is asking that the microphones remain unmuted during the debate after Biden asked for them to be muted. As far as I can tell, the chatter misses the point. Biden complained that Trump kept yelling after his microphone cut out, and that Biden had to respond while Trump yelled next to him. The audience at home couldn't hear Trump but Biden could. I can see why the Harris campaign would rather that you heard him ignore the instructions.
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Trump can't follow directions. He has to make the directions.
 
Jack Smith has returned with the election interference case against Trump.
Cliffs from Reddit:
  • Jack Smith's team says that the superseding indictment was "presented to a new grand jury that had not previously heard evidence in this case," which separately charged Trump with the same crimes.
  • Rather than go through the evidentiary hearing in DC, Jack Smith goes back to a grand jury and gets a superseding indictment based on what it believes satisfies the Supreme Court immunity decision. This resets the case, requires a new arraignment, and Court process.
  • The news is an entirely new grand jury decided to re-indict Trump on the same election subversion counts without seeing the evidence that the Supreme Court barred from consideration—i.e. the DOJ corruption stuff and any other conspiring with federal officials.
  • Jack Smith added "private" to all of the co-conspirators, to highlight their clearly non-official roles — and got rid of Jeffrey Clark, the DOJ guy who was willing to be acting AG and pursue Trump's fake election fraud claims if Trump let him.
  • Judge Tanya Chutkan remains the judge on the case
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abcnews.go.com

Trump charged in superseding indictment in election interference case following SCOTUS ruling

Special counsel Jack Smith has charged former President Donald Trump in a superseding indictment in his federal election interference case.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

Trump's response.
 
What a landscape the Supreme Court has made where evidence of the President of the United States conspiring with stooges he put in the Department of Justice to commit a crime that people in his administration across the board told him was a crime is now legally inadmissible; including stuff that he literally said to the public.
 
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Tornado
What a landscape the Supreme Court has made where evidence of the President of the United States conspiring with stooges he put in the Department of Justice to commit a crime that people in his administration across the board told him was a crime is now legally inadmissible; including stuff that he literally said to the public.
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Justice.
 
www.huffpost.com

Tim Walz's Rant On Gutters May Be The Most Hilariously Important Thing You See Today

“I try not to be judgmental on people, but when I see a well-tended gutter, it says a lot about somebody,” the vice presidential candidate said.
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com

Tim Walz has strong opinions. Is it like JD Vance's strong opinions about whether or not you have children? No. About how it's wrong for rape victims to get an abortion? No. About how divorce is too easy and same-sex marriage is bad? No.

None of that. Tim Walz has strong opinions about gutters, and has some advice on how you can maintain a clean gutter with less effort.

Obviously this is silly and unimportant when it comes the presidential race. But how silly is it really? He feels strongly about getting the word out because he doesn't want random people to suffer some kind of misfortune or great personal cost when they just needed some information and encouragement to do things thoughtfully. As someone who has spent a lot of time around narcissists, I can tell you for certain that not everyone feels this way. There are plenty of people out there who would love to see someone suffer great personal cost for not knowing about how to keep leaves out of their gutter. It makes them feel good, superior, special. They want to see other people fail, because they want evidence to support the idea that they're better than other people.

You don't get even a little whiff of that kind of toxicity in Tim's PSA about gutter maintenance. It's a wholesome recognition that society is better off when each individual succeeds. There's no broken window fallacy present, no economic misunderstanding, no personal gratification or selfishness.

So yea, it's silly. But I can't see this kind of silly coming from the republicans right now, because this particular kind of silly still has a layer of character in it that differentiates the candidates.
 

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