2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[WolfpackS2k]

It's going to be Trump. I just know it. We finally have everything on the right track and that orange **** face is going to ruin it for me and the missus. I just know it.

Yes, because the last 3 years have been nothing but America first.

But if record inflation, crippling increase in cost of living, open borders and increased military conflict around the world are the "right track" in your opinion, then yes voting for Kamala is the right decision.

 

[Joey D]

Yes, because the last 3 years have been nothing but America first.

But if record inflation, crippling increase in cost of living, open borders and increased military conflict around the world are the "right track" in your opinion, then yes voting for Kamala is the right decision.

You do understand that Trump's economic plans will cause more inflation and increase the cost of living right? Tariffs are horrible for the economy.

 

[Danoff]

But if record inflation, crippling increase in cost of living, open borders and increased military conflict around the world are the "right track" in your opinion, then yes voting for Kamala is the right decision.

Regardless of what @Joey D says above, Trump's goal is to destroy the US government, rule of law, and all of the safeguards that enable economic prosperity. If you think cost of living was bad after a mishandled pandemic, you have no idea, just no idea, how bad it's going to be when you lose your government.

You take for granted, even throw stones, at the main thing providing the economic stability that you profess to crave - rule of law, representative government, human rights. This is what you're ready to vote against, and it's going to cost you and everyone, and not just massive cost of living - but safety.

 

[Liquid]

It would be quite the enabling act if Trump won.

 

[UKMikey]

America first... provided you have the right genes:



I wonder if the Bellamy salute will make a return to classrooms.

 

[Liquid]

His mum was an immigrant so perhaps he should be checked for murder genes.

 

[Exorcet]

record inflation, crippling increase in cost of living

Not helped by people pushing conspiracy theories and increasing the nation's vulnerability to a virus.

open borders

Sounds fine, immigration helped to make America.

and increased military conflict around the world

Self Defense isn't wrong, and while not standing up to invaders may (or may not) reduce conflict, it's still not a good ending.

 

[UKMikey]

Not sure how Trump is interested in closing the border. He keeps getting his goons to vote against immigration reform.

His mum was an immigrant so perhaps he should be checked for murder genes.

It won't matter in the event of his gaining power. As a day one dictator he's legally entitled to gun down his enemies on Fifth Avenue as part of his official duties.

 

[Danoff]

I'm constantly amazed by people like @WolfpackS2k.

"This beef costs an extra $1.50. Burn down society so that we can't buy beef anymore!"

Lunacy. Fingers in their ears when they hear "project 2025" as they yell "I want my hamburger for $1 less and the orange man promised me that would happen if we deported brown people and let him jail late night comedians!"

 

[Jezza819]

@WolfpackS2k Since other conservatives seem to avoid answering this question, I'll ask it to you. Did Trump lose the 2020 election?

 

[Joey D]

I'm constantly amazed by people like @WolfpackS2k.

"This beef costs an extra $1.50. Burn down society so that we can't buy beef anymore!"

Lunacy. Fingers in their ears when they hear "project 2025" as they yell "I want my hamburger for $1 less and the orange man promised me that would happen if we deported brown people!"

They're also completely blind to why beef costs more and the driving factors behind inflation. They also don't understand that food prices will skyrocket once Trump tariffs John Deere agricultural equipment or that things like strawberries will triple in price once you can't import cheap labor to pick them.

Like, I get inflation is complicated to understand, but you have to be a special kind of stupid to think people from Latin America are causing the price increase. Also, how can illegal immigrants steal jobs, commit crimes, tank the economy, and simultaneously be lazy? Like they're either doing all that stuff and are the most industrious people on the planet, or they're lazy.

 

[Jezza819]

They're also completely blind to why beef costs more and the driving factors behind inflation. They also don't understand that food prices will skyrocket once Trump tariffs John Deere agricultural equipment or that things like strawberries will triple in price once you can't import cheap labor to pick them.

Like, I get inflation is complicated to understand, but you have to be a special kind of stupid to think people from Latin America are causing the price increase. Also, how can illegal immigrants steal jobs, commit crimes, tank the economy, and simultaneously be lazy? Like they're either doing all that stuff and are the most industrious people on the planet, or they're lazy.

The same thing goes for egg prices. The reason egg prices are so volatile is the industry is dealing with another outbreak of bird flu. But conservatives don't want to hear it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/17/egg-prices-are-once-again-rising-as-bird-flu-limits-supply.html

 

[HenrySwanson]

Yes, because the last 3 years have been nothing but America first.

But if record inflation, crippling increase in cost of living, open borders and increased military conflict around the world are the "right track" in your opinion, then yes voting for Kamala is the right decision.

You are likely patriotic.

Do you think America should go against the axis of authoritarian states?

 

[Jezza819]

You are likely patriotic.

It's not patriotic to support someone that is willing to destroy everything this country stands for. It's not patriotic to support someone that is against free and fair elections. It's certainly not patriotic to support someone that has referred to our military as "losers".

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

$1.50 hamburgers and an uninhabitable planet in 200 years

or

$5.00 hamburgers and a habitable planet in 200 years

As a thought experiment, even taking both statements as truth, I bet a shocking number of people would choose option A.

 

[Blitz24]

$1.50 hamburgers and an uninhabitable planet in 200 years

or

$5.00 hamburgers and a habitable planet in 200 years

As a thought experiment, even taking both statements as truth, I bet a shocking number of people would choose option A.

"I won't be around in 200 years so why do I care?"

 

[Danoff]

$1.50 hamburgers and an uninhabitable planet in 200 years

or

$5.00 hamburgers and a habitable planet in 200 years

As a thought experiment, even taking both statements as truth, I bet a shocking number of people would choose option A.

"I won't be around in 200 years so why do I care?"

My 70+ year old dad literally decided that he'd rather die of covid than skip restaurants for a year. He kept going out, got covid, and rolled the dice.

So it's worse than "I won't be around in 200 years". It can be more like "I'm going to die someday, I might as well sacrifice years of life in favor of a last meal".

 

[Joey D]

My wife and I call that sort of stuff "Big Boomer Energy".

 

[eran0004]

Yes, because the last 3 years have been nothing but America first.

But if record inflation, crippling increase in cost of living, open borders and increased military conflict around the world are the "right track" in your opinion, then yes voting for Kamala is the right decision.

Why do you think Trump would be any better?

 

[HenrySwanson]

I hear you. You're not alone in this kind of thinking.

Currently, the projections do look like Trump. Kamala is sitting at a 55% chance of victory at 538. The same group had Biden at 89%, and it felt tighter than that by a longshot. Hillary was at 70ish% in the same poll and lost. So Kamala's 55% doesn't look good.

The only real hope I can offer is that the reason Hillary and Biden were closer than they looked is because the people who weren't responding to polls voted in a particular way. That isn't always the same group, or the same way. If Kamala has broad support among young people and dictatorship-anxious republicans, it may not show up in the polls. So it is possible that Trump could end up looking better in the polls that he's actually doing.

That being said, if you don't have contingency plans, you should. Because there are a shocking number of people who buy nonsense.


Edit:

If Trump wins, I think the US heads in a decidedly Russia/China direction.

My bet on Harris is offering a lower cash-out option (lowest I've seen in a long time).

Not good.