450pp Street Car Tuners Club -- Nightly 9:45-12:00 EDT

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No one showed up for the other thing, so:

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Well, Spooble and Esh came.
 
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If you are not on my friend list, introduce yourself so I don't think you're a pubber.
 
With the seasonals, I have a couple 400s. Maybe we should do a night of those (it doesn't have to be tonight).
 
I kept getting booted...seems my connection was royally screwed tonight. Decided to just catch up on some of the Seasonals instead....
 
Some interesting races last night. I saw a lot of action on the track. I would have seen more but it only takes one lagging or rookie driver to ruin things. From now on with reverse grid, I'm going to start booting pubbers based on how they complete their first race. If someone starts toward the front and ends up finishing last, we don't need them in the lobby. I cannot justify placing them back at the front only to hold up the drivers who know the tracks and know when to brake and how much.

The_Revenge seemed like a decent driver and probably would have had fun with us. However, I think his view of racing was a bit extreme. I will run someone 2-wide through just about any corner on any track. I will slow enough to hold my line, but I'll do it, and I expect others to do the same. I'm guessing he thought people were just going to yield to him. It was either that, or he was just having too many run-ins with pubbers and didn't know how to fight back.

Here's the Grand Valley race from my POV. Pretty much one driver ruined the race for 5 other drivers on the track. It would have been a great battle otherwise.

 
chuyler1
From now on with reverse grid, I'm going to start booting pubbers based on how they complete their first race. If someone starts toward the front and ends up finishing last, we don't need them in the lobby.
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Well, that'll be me out. :P In the video, the only people that finished behind me were people that wrecked and weren't able to catch back up to me. The four drivers that finished infront of me all wrecked and caught me back up.

Still, running reverse grid we still had the same drivers winning.

There was another race, I forget where (might've been GVE-R), where I was excited at how cleanly I was racing, but I was very quickly passed by everyone and fell to the back of the pack. I am just not as fast. And trying to push faster just makes me wreck.

I do wonder if PD has changed the code so cars have less grip in full rooms. I constantly went back to check my tires just to make sure I had the right ones. Would be nice to put down some draft free laps in a full room and compare them with draft free laps in a room with only half a dozen others.

As to Revengel, Dabs was too far gone to stop and give him the space back before we realized what had happened. If you look at 1:15ish on the video, you see Huyler get bumped (or Huyler bump, not sure who 'it whom). That was me. And I didn't see him at the time. I use the bumper cam, and I thought I was giving him enough space, but apparently I didn't (or he didn't get me enough space, either way, I don't care).

I didn't think it was a bad hit. It was just a little door rubbing, and I don't think it knocked either of us off our lines. I wonder though, if little hits like that bothered Revengel. There were a lot of those. We had a full room, and we ran at Rome, which has no run-off.
 
chuyler1
Some interesting races last night. I saw a lot of action on the track. I would have seen more but it only takes one lagging or rookie driver to ruin things. From now on with reverse grid, I'm going to start booting pubbers based on how they complete their first race. If someone starts toward the front and ends up finishing last, we don't need them in the lobby. I cannot justify placing them back at the front only to hold up the drivers who know the tracks and know when to brake and how much.

The_Revenge seemed like a decent driver and probably would have had fun with us. However, I think his view of racing was a bit extreme. I will run someone 2-wide through just about any corner on any track. I will slow enough to hold my line, but I'll do it, and I expect others to do the same. I'm guessing he thought people were just going to yield to him. It was either that, or he was just having too many run-ins with pubbers and didn't know how to fight back.

Here's the Grand Valley race from my POV. Pretty much one driver ruined the race for 5 other drivers on the track. It would have been a great battle otherwise.
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If you check out 2:12 in the video, you can see just how bumper car the physics in the game still are :(. A slight tap from the side sent 3 drivers off the track in tremendous fashion.
 
I don't think grip changes, you just have to be in tune with how much grip your car has. The first race in my '83 Lancer I knew I had no grip. I had to go much slower than Nic through the turns but I was just fast enough to prevent him from passing me in the draft. The strategy with a car like that is to never give up an apex. Don't let them push you into late braking. Make your opponent pass on the outside, and give them just enough room to make it stick.

Later on in the 350z, I had more grip than anyone else on the track but I was slow in a straight line. You can see in the video that I was able to practically dive bomb other cars into the turns, hug the inside, and then exit with decent speed...only to get passed back before the next turn. Anyone that attempted to use my braking points would run wide.

As for that bump with you Garris...that's what I call racing. I knew you were there and I was expecting you to take more of a tighter line. Its hard to know exactly where cars are on the track but i figured you saw me disappear from your rearview on the outside. I apex very late on that turn typically, which puts me on the far right side of the track giving me a better approach to the more crucial hairpin. I left you exactly 1 car width for you to maintain that line but your car scooted wide under braking. When I'm done tuning a car, it can usually handle that sort of impact without spinning out of control. The yellow RX-7 I was in last week was not finished and if you watch the video of Grand Valley I posted, you'll see where a similar hit from a pubber had me doing a 360 in the dirt.
 
grenadeshark
If you check out 2:12 in the video, you can see just how bumper car the physics in the game still are :(. A slight tap from the side sent 3 drivers off the track in tremendous fashion.
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I know, I'd love to see what that looked like in your replay. The RX-7 side punted you like I've never seen before. Lag must have played a part in that.
 
That Revengel guy is only fast in his Muira. He raced with us once before and I recall dabney asking him kindly to pick another car after winning by 20+ secs and he never finished better than mid-pack. I'm surprised noone told him to **** off.
 
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That Revengel guy is only fast in his Muira. He raced with us once before and I recall dabney asking him kindly to pick another car after winning by 20+ secs and he never finished better than mid-pack. I'm surprised noone told him to **** off.
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I was about to, but he left. He never was able to confront me directly about the incident at Daytona.
 
The Muira doesn't really belong in a 450 room. I've been known to use a little ballast and engine reduction here and there, but that car is well over 500pp stock.

However, we all have our favorite cars. If you see me in the RX-8 it's because I expect to win. If you see me in something else, its because I want a little challenge. The 350z is my new project because I can't pass anyone on the straight with it, but it has enough grip for some interesting passes in the corners.
 
indiemo
pubber ?

little bit slow here, me a pubber ?
That means ?
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A public user, not someone from the forum. Usually we just run the thing in someone's lobby. When we open it to a public room, we have nights were we constantly have to kick people we don't know because they batter other or cuts across the grass, or drive backwards, or whatever.
 
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