580PP Stars & Stripes Grand Championship Event

[Dalone]

This is from the 1st post by Hami.

"A-Spec Event Race
580PP Stars & Stripes:
Period of Availability: 2013/06/19 23:00 -

This is an expert level race event for high power American super sportscars. Cars can be tuned up to 580PP and tires are limited to Sports/Hard or less. A "Performance Point Bonus" is awarded for cars participating with a low PP. For example, winning with a 540PP car in this race will roughly double the reward."


OK, now where does it say that dedicated RACING cars are allowed?

When I see the word 'sports car' I don't visualise a RACING car, I visualise a SPORTS car.
A car which can be road registered.

And I have no problem with anyone using any car they can to win this, it's just that I think they slipped up by allowing dedicated RACING cars when the spec's call for SPORTS cars.

 

[bandit0627]

New seasonal is great for making credits! If u have a 2j u can use that fully detuned without turbo and wins easily with 1mil credit every 6-8 min can't remember time...

 

[Nexviator79]

Sure. That makes sense. Take the most ridiculous purpose built race car with over inflated aero numbers in GT5 and race it against street versions. Then, complain that it wasn't much of a challenge.

Exactly! Who knew a washing machine with a Turbo could hug the ground as well as it does.

 

[Nexviator79]

This is from the 1st post by Hami.

"A-Spec Event Race
580PP Stars & Stripes:
Period of Availability: 2013/06/19 23:00 -

This is an expert level race event for high power American super sportscars. Cars can be tuned up to 580PP and tires are limited to Sports/Hard or less. A "Performance Point Bonus" is awarded for cars participating with a low PP. For example, winning with a 540PP car in this race will roughly double the reward."


OK, now where does it say that dedicated RACING cars are allowed?

When I see the word 'sports car' I don't visualise a RACING car, I visualise a SPORTS car.
A car which can be road registered.

And I have no problem with anyone using any car they can to win this, it's just that I think they slipped up by allowing dedicated RACING cars when the spec's call for SPORTS cars.

Yep, they allowed any American Car in as long as it could be fit below the 580 PP limit. I used a fully detuned 2J (if there is such a thing as a fully detuned 2J!!!!) the first time. Since, I have Shoes tune posted above and won them all again.
On another note, since I'm no tuning guru, I wonder what will happen to the tune if I either add ballast or remove engine power?

 

[Dalone]

Just checked the UCD and there was a 2J Race Car for about $15mil. Thought I already had one however it didn't show up so bought this one.
At least I'll actually have money go into my 'bank' for a bit now.

I was also advised that I now have 600 cars and for that achievement I scored horn # 119 I think it was. Woo hoo.
Does anyone ever actually use a horn when racing? Don't think I ever have, let alone know how to do so. (I can't even turn the wipers off)

 

[Nexviator79]

Just checked the UCD and there was a 2J Race Car for about $15mil. Thought I already had one however it didn't show up so bought this one.
At least I'll actually have money go into my 'bank' for a bit now.

I was also advised that I now have 600 cars and for that achievement I scored horn # 119 I think it was. Woo hoo.
Does anyone ever actually use a horn when racing? Don't think I ever have, let alone know how to do so. (I can't even turn the wipers off)

Only accidentally while thumb mashing the toggle on a PS3 remote!!!!!!

 

[Dalone]

Anyway, won $1,050,000 (exp 103,250) using a Corvette ZO6 (C6) '06 tuned to 549PP, after a few attempts, the 06 or 05 Ford came in 2nd 2 secs behind.

Anyone using a lower PP with a non RACE car?

 

[nowayback]

Shelby super charged, at 530 pp, prob can go lower

517pp speed ring... 1.483.200 cr

507 pp indy 1.582.000 cr 1st on 4th lap....shortcuts

 

[macaense]

I've used Camaro SS '10 (540pp), win all races and was easy to get 2D

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

If there's anyone that doesn't mind using a slight hybrid car to go over these races for fun, I have a Lexus GS 300 '91 with a Stage 4 turbo that is an absolute crazy drift monster, and despite being an initially bad handling car in stock form, can take corners with a lot of speed and confidence. The beast has a whopping 975HP going to those sports hard tyres at the rear, but it just handles it in such a fun manner, I think a replay will have to come soon, it just looks and sounds epic. This lexus also shares it's engine with the Toyota Supra RZ, so you also get the same sound as a fully tuned one too.

I'm happy to share this car if anyone would like to try it, if so, I'll open up some space on my friend's list. It's happily capable of winning all of the races despite how wild it is.

 

[Dalone]

Sounds like fun, wouldn't mind having a try if that's OK, what is your name on GT5?

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

It's the same as it is here: Lewis_Hamilton_

Here's a quick video of the car in action. I didn't realise until after I had done this that the oil was becoming dirty and had reduced the car down to 921HP, but it's now restored to 975HP. I'll free up some friends list space and put the car on share later on today.

Most of the drifitng wasn't intentional, more of a case of trying to hang on to the thing.

 

[Dangerman_1973]

Won the event with the 2J Chaparral. The Toscana Tarmac track was a little hard, especially at night in the final lap. I didn't have headlights with the 2D so I used the driving line to guide me. Barely win by a turn.

 

[Dalone]

Shelby super charged, at 530 pp, prob can go lower

517pp speed ring... 1.483.200 cr

507 pp indy 1.582.000 cr 1st on 4th lap....shortcuts

And quote; macaense I've used Camaro SS '10 (540pp), win all races and was easy to get 2D ++++++

~~~

Decided to try the Camaro SS'10 and won at 513PP @ Toscana (no short cuts there) 2nd car Ford no stripe 05.

$1,605,000...xp 157825.

Max power 409hp....weight 1464kg.... 146kg ballast.

Might see if I can get a bit lower with it.

And looked at the video Lewis, bloody hell. Will leave that until I have more time, thanks.

 

[Shoe67]

If you need museum cars, send me a FR and I'll give you as many as I can per day 👍

How about a Ford RS200?

This car is amazing. This was the first time I have ever driven this car. Although it was quite slow (519pp) I still managed to finish 2nd on the Grand Valley Speedway, 7sec out from the No Stripe Ford GT. With a better driver this car could definitely win. (calling out to the aliens, please try this tune)




Ford RS200 '84
519pp
414hp
1180kg
SH tires
49/51 weight

PARTS:
Engine Tuning Stage 3
Sports Intake Manifold
Sports Exhaust Manifold
Titanium Racing Exhaust
Mid RPM Range Turbo Kit
Fully Customizable Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Torque Sensing Center Differential
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Wing from GT Auto

SUSPENSION:
Ride Height- -16/-53
Spring Rate- 9.1/12.8
Extension- 5/9
Compression- 3/7
Anti Roll Bar- 2/6
Camber Angle- 1.6/0.7
Toe- -0.13/0.08

LSD:
Torque- 15/5
Acceleration- 28/22
Braking- 5/7

AERODYNAMICS:
Front- 0
Rear- 20

BRAKE BALANCE:
Front- 6
Rear- 5

TORQUE SPLIT:
Front- 30
Rear- 70

TRANSMISSION:
Top Speed- 320kph/199mph
1- 2.482
2- 1.792
3- 1.350
4- 1.049
5- 0.850
Final- 4.375

NOTES:
On the GVS race I managed to run mostly 2:06 laps with one 2:05.977 because of some drafting help. I got to 2nd position at the line between lap 3 and 4, but never managed to catch the leader. One important thing to do with this car is to short shift. I recommend between 7800rpm and 8000rpm to shift. Please try this tune and post your results and if anyone manages to win with this I will provide a reward of a 1000ticket 👍 happy racing

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

580PP Dodge Viper SRT 10 ACR '08 for anyone struggling

 

[NCRthree]

@ Lewis

That's interesting you're sliding so much with SRF. Do you guys feel like it's effects aren't as strong as they used to be? I haven't tried this Event yet.

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

@ Lewis

That's interesting you're sliding so much with SRF. Do you guys feel like it's effects aren't as strong as they used to be? I haven't tried this Event yet.

I originally attempted this event(High Speed Ring Reverse) with the Camaro IROC-Z Concept '88 and when the car began to drift there seemed to be an endless amount of traction if I didn't stomp it to the floor. There were corners where I'd put all tires in the red and still maintain control. It seems to be working very well(I'm not sure to what level it is maybe someone could determine that). I lost by 0.117 to the Ford GT(No Stripe) haha. Transmission ratios need more adjustment.

 

[ALi3___]

I just finished the first two and here is my opinion while driving the 2J with max ballast and 50% HP at I believe 538PP.

High Speed Ring gave me a little difficulty the first try and I finished in 2nd, but came in 1st on my second try. With the 2J it is easy to follow the cars ahead too much and slow down too much around some of the turns. Also because the AI tend to cut in it is much easier to dive bomb on the outside of them and you can still get around. Because the 2J has so much suction I went as tight as I could through the high speed turns to basically slingshot past a few AI.

Daytona was pretty easy. When going through the road section you should be passing 1 car each hairpin turn and come out onto the speedway in 8-9th on the first lap. I caught up the lead car (No Stripe) entering the road section on lap 4/5 and had it from there. You can definitely cut the chicane and it takes off almost 2 full seconds off of the lead. On Daytona I was averaging low 1:53's with sloppy driving and a few bumps.

So far it looks easy enough. I'll report back after a few more races.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

@ Lewis

That's interesting you're sliding so much with SRF. Do you guys feel like it's effects aren't as strong as they used to be? I haven't tried this Event yet.

SRF encourages aggressive driving to get the most out of it. Compared to all aids off, SRF allows you to brake much later. Without aids, cars would plough wide into the corner and/or understeer, but with SRF, you can enter a corner with a lot more speed and then just coast or trail brake gently, the SRF will then give magical grip and yank the front end of the car around the corner. This gains a lot of time compared to approaching normally or sensibly.

When this starts to happen, the car will continuously turn in sharper, a quick blip on the throttle is possible around very long corners and serve no ill effects where normally it would introduce problems, instead, this begins setting the car up for a mighty launch out of the corner. Sometimes, you are simply able to just mash the throttle from early on and control a small amount of oversteer, meaning you've hit the throttle way beyond what is possible with all aids off. Again, this gains a lot of time.

The quickest way of driving with SRF is to induce SRF's effects by overdriving, but to try and do it with minimal smoke from the tyres, as excessive sliding still loses a little bit of time. To take advantage of SRF, I tend to set a car up so that it is loose, i.e. so that the back end wants to slide on both corner entry and exit.

The above video was not trying to take advantage of SRF so much as it was just me having fun in a car with nearly 1000HP on SH tyres (plus trying to drift with SRF feels very odd as it fights against you), but I have numerous replays of SRF shuffle races that demonstrate what I've said above. When you get it right, you can gain ridiculous distances such as 5 - 6car lengths on the guy in front of you who approached and exited the corner in a normal manner, pushed the car hard, but didn't overdrive it to exploit the mystical forces available.


TL;DR - "Trail braking" and powerslide exits can be abused to the extreme

 

[Dczip]

Like how when you get to around 5-6th place, the lead car goes from bunched up to all alone. Grand Valley is making me work for it. 2nd place and like 3-4 sec behind.


Or then again you could go back to your garage to look at another car, but decide to stay with what you got and get a good spawn in the race (no gt's in the top 5)

 

[soundtiger95]

Nice tune for those who are struggling.

Was able to take the lead on lap 3 for all races with this. 👍

Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09
580pp
622hp
1557kg
SH tires
49/51 weight

PARTS:
Weight Reduction Stage 1
Fully Customizable Transmission
Clutch Twin Plate
Flywheel Semi Racing
Adjustable LSD
Carbon Drive Shaft
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Wing from GT auto

SUSPENSION:
Ride Height- 0/0
Spring Rate- 14.3/16.4
Extension- 6/8
Compression- 4/6
Anti Roll Bar- 2/6
Camber- 2.5/2.2
Toe- -0.08/0.12

LSD:
Torque- 5
Acceleration- 18
Braking- 5

AERODYNAMICS:
Front- 0
Rear- 20

BRAKE BALANCE:
Front- 5
Rear- 8

BALLAST:
Amount- 200
Position- 0

POWER LIMITER:
92.7% (use to match 580pp)

TRANSMISSION:
Top Speed- 340kph/211mph
1- 2.687
2- 1.961
3- 1.495
4- 1.178
5- 0.960
6- 0.809
Final- 3.420

Great tune. Worked perfectly. Thanks!

 

[Shoe67]

Great tune. Worked perfectly. Thanks!

No problem mate 👍

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Have only been doing the TT's lately but needed an excuse to leave the London track.

Anyway started with the Corvette ZR1 (C6) 09 and won a few races then changed to the G37, which was much easier to drive.

Won them all of course quite easily, especially enjoyed Toscana Tarmac 106A, the last race.
Reminded me of the Lambo races there, there were even cars spinning out after the first r/hander. And cars spun out at SSR5 too.

All good fun and I'm sure many people will enjoy them.

I won another 2D race car for my efforts, not sure if everyone gets that or not.

Perhaps Cargo will relax his stance on SRF and see how low he can go at Toscana, I'm going to have a try at a lower PP next time I fire up the PS.

Ok Dalone, tell me what car you want me to use and at what PP and I'll give it a go. Sadly, I gotta move in the next 30 days or less so this will be like my last hoorah....for old times sake. Don't know when I'll be back, if at all before GT6. Got some personal issues I'll gotta deal with so lets see if we can have some fun before I gotta go.

 

[MustangManiac]

Not the easiest they have had in awhile, but I was able to make the pass for the lead on the last lap of the first two events (against the Ford no stripe) with the Shelby Cobra. @ NCRthree: No, the SRF did not keep the Cobra from sliding all over the place!

 

[Shoe67]

Not the easiest they have had in awhile, but I was able to make the pass for the lead on the last lap of the first two events (against the Ford no stripe) with the Shelby Cobra. @ NCRthree: No, the SRF did not keep the Cobra from sliding all over the place!

I won all the events except the GVS race with the Cobra. I have a nice tune for it that I use all the time 👍 super fun car

 

[Dalone]

Ok Dalone, tell me what car you want me to use and at what PP and I'll give it a go. Sadly, I gotta move in the next 30 days or less so this will be like my last hoorah....for old times sake. Don't know when I'll be back, if at all before GT6. Got some personal issues I'll gotta deal with so lets see if we can have some fun before I gotta go.

Good on ya Cargo. OK mate lets use the Camaro SS' 10, as described in my post below.

""Decided to try the Camaro SS' 10 and won at 513PP @ Toscana (no short cuts there) 2nd car Ford no stripe 05.

$1,605,000...xp 157825.

Max power 409hp....weight 1464kg.... 146kg ballast.""

Good luck, I'll fire up the PS too and have another try.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Good on ya Cargo. OK mate lets use the Camaro SS' 10, as described in my post below.

""Decided to try the Camaro SS' 10 and won at 513PP @ Toscana (no short cuts there) 2nd car Ford no stripe 05.

$1,605,000...xp 157825.

Max power 409hp....weight 1464kg.... 146kg ballast.""

Good luck, I'll fire up the PS too and have another try.

Just had several goes with the car at your specs. Not sure what the lead car was, but the closest I could get was within 5 sec. of first place at HSR. I don't know the Toscana track at all so thats going to be a work in progress. Gotta get a good tune on the Camaro because that thing pushes like a damn dump track, lol. I'll keep trying tho, just gotta lot of things on my mind right now.

 

[Dalone]

I'm racing at Toscana, liked it from the Gallardo races there a while ago but had to learn it again for this race.

Anyway dropped the PP down to 510 but can only get within 7 secs of 1st place.

I had dropped the weight to 1383kg (65kg ballast) and the power down to 356hp.

Need to do something else though.

edit..Made some more changes and got within a couple of seconds of winning but have to be good clean runs.

Will look at some other changes.

Update. Won at 510PP (94.4% power) with the Camaro SS '10. $1,650,000...xp 162,250.

Best lap 1:43.1 total time 8:40.638. 2nd car Ford GT 05...8:41.266, 3rd Viper 8:58.735 (+18 secs)

Changes..403hp.. weight 1481kg (+163kg ballast) ...aero @8

No engine adds..weight reduction stage 3. Happy to post the rest of the tune if anyone is interested. It is a published one from the tuning section, can't remember whose.

And Cargo, if you are having some problems mate leave this until things are better, no worries. Cheers.

 

[Promptus]

As per usual, here's my video for this week

As per usual - keep up the good work Oink.

Peace!