6 Minute Challenge: Nürburgring + Sport Hard

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Quasi! You're here! Woah! :P

I'll probably give this a shot later tonight, so you know some more FR cars will make it on the board. :sly:

Edit: Egg, I've seen freight trains take tighter turns than my ISC spec'd ZR1. :odd:
 
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Ok the ZR1 hates me, I'm going to try it in a fully done TVR Griffith now. Almost 500hp and only 900kg. :crazy:
 
McLaren F1 6.46.225

Wow, that's crazy fast in that car :bowdown:

Ok the ZR1 hates me, I'm going to try it in a fully done TVR Griffith now. Almost 500hp and only 900kg. :crazy:

Good luck with that, my Mclaren was like 800+hp and 900Kg :sly:

For my skill level, I seem to need at least 620pp to have a chance at cracking the 7min barrier.

I'm really impressed with the 2wd times on the board 👍 at this point I might as well merge the 2 leaderboards. I originally thought everyone would just use GTR SpecV's and Veyrons for this challenge, so I wanted to give recognition to the hardcore 2wd purists :D
 
Viper SRT10 ACR 6:57.551, was a sloppy lap, i could probably take a few tenths of a second off.
 
I'm really impressed with the 2wd times on the board 👍 at this point I might as well merge the 2 leaderboards. I originally thought everyone would just use GTR SpecV's and Veyrons for this challenge, so I wanted to give recognition to the hardcore 2wd purists :D

2WD cars are just so much more fun to drive as you need to manage rear traction as well as just front end grip in the 4WD stuff.

With the stage 3 engine upgrade added, I've gone a couple of seconds faster in the NSX-R LM Roadcar, but I won't post a new time yet as I know there's still a bit more to come.

It is interesting how modding affects the way a car drives. The NSX at 613bhp was fairly simple to drive as long as you were sensible with the throttle in the lower gears. At 669 it's much more difficult, and at first I was struggling to better my 613 time... at 669 it can get sideways in 4th gear at pretty high speeds in some of the fast bumpy sections. Took a couple of laps to adjust to the new braking points and to learn to be a bit more sensitive on the gas exiting medium speed corners. I guess it's capable of a 6'50 with the right tune and with someone more talented than me driving it!

I would expect the F1 to be the fastest 2WD car... it's light (900kg vs 1,250 for the NSX) has loads of power (800bhp vs 670) and has a similar downforce. The only car I could see challenging it is the R390 road car, but I haven't got that yet (it's one of the 29 cars I'm missing to complete my garage). The R390 was a great car in previous GT games, and it will probably make similar power, DF and weight to the F1 but might be a bit easier to drive.
 
Is it still limit to 600pp?

If there's no limit i will try my 810bhp SLS AMG, with no front downforce:scared::nervous:
 
No PP limit... only limit other than it must be a 'road car' is sports hard tyres.
 
Is it still limit to 600pp?

I don't believe there ever was a limit of 600PP. The only rules that I know of are stated in the first post:

The Rules:


  • Lap run in offline practice
  • Must be a street car: No concepts, race cars, or race modified street cars. Street legal tuner cars are OK.
  • Sport Hard tires
  • All assists off (ABS OK)
  • Grip reduction set to real
  • No Tuning/Modification restrictions
 
Seems i'll have to give the F1 a setup overhaul and at least try to reclaim first place (the time seems pretty impressive, though) :scared:
I still didn't get the Mine's up there, will try that too now, didn't have much time the last two days.




Quasi! You're here! Woah! :P

Hey Counter,
technically i'm here since 2004, but forgot my login details when i moved flats and was lurking as a guest for around 5 years.
Now with GT5 and online racing i thought i register with my PSN ID, didn't post much on the old account anyway :)
 
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6:53:340 - Dodge Viper ACR

Also did a 6:06:xxx lap in a RM'd 'Vette, was going for 5 minutes, but meeh. Jus' saying.

GTRoadRunner
 
Great job guys, keep them coming 👍

Someone has to tame the Enzo :crazy: I'm sure with the right tune and driver this thing can get under 7 min. Same with the ZR1; I'm 100% sure this car will get on the board.

Leaderboard is updated, let me know if I missed any times.
 
7:41.364 - 458 Italia:
Sports Hard
592 HP
1347 kg
575 PP
Tranny, drivetrain, suspension upgrades
No Aero Kit.
Hot Lap with a Controller.

Fun drive, bit too intense to actually race...
Might try Aero Kit with more HP.
 
Someone has to tame the Enzo :crazy: I'm sure with the right tune and driver this thing can get under 7 min. Same with the ZR1; I'm 100% sure this car will get on the board.

I got 7:17 with the ZR1 on my first clean lap and 7:23 with the Enzo on my first, so it's definitely possible. I have no tuning talent whatsoever, so finding a premade one may do the trick. 👍
 
After hours of trying with a few different setups, the best i could do in a McLaren F1 was a 6:51,257.
Maybe i can improve that by one or two seconds on a good day, but 6:46 seems unreachable for me, great job TECHNIKRS4! 👍

Still didn't make it in the Mine's, best time of today was one and a half seconds behind that 7:00,4xx i did a few days before :ouch:

I think the Enzo will have trouble getting under 7 minutes, Scuderia or Italia might be better cars for the job.
 
Great job guys, keep them coming 👍

Someone has to tame the Enzo :crazy: I'm sure with the right tune and driver this thing can get under 7 min. Same with the ZR1; I'm 100% sure this car will get on the board.

Leaderboard is updated, let me know if I missed any times.

Untuned/stock it is impossible to get either car below 7 min. The Enzo can get low teens but that is it. The ZR1 will probably never break the out of the teens.

The Enzo with sports mediums is a totally different and far more realistic car. With hards it is all over the place and a real mess almost no matter what you do.

I know you can tune in this competition but it would be interesting to see if any road car can break 7 min stock w/ sports hard tires. The only cars I see doing it are the Veyron or F1. I have tried with both but its quite hard.
 
I know you can tune in this competition but it would be interesting to see if any road car can break 7 min stock w/ sports hard tires. The only cars I see doing it are the Veyron or F1. I have tried with both but its quite hard.

I just stumbled over this thread … I'm pretty confident that a stock Amuse S2000 GT1 can break the 7 minute barrier on Sport Hards. Will try and see if I can manage it myself … or if it needs to be done by one of the aliens on this board.

Also I wonder if a maxxed-out Yellowbird could do it. That might be a project for later on because I just found my very own Yellowbird in the used car lot yesterday. Yee-haw! Have to appreciate it stock for a couple of weeks, though.
:D

Kudos to Stotty for his NSX LM time 👍
 
Also I wonder if a maxxed-out Yellowbird could do it. That might be a project for later on because I just found my very own Yellowbird in the used car lot yesterday. Yee-haw! Have to appreciate it stock for a couple of weeks, though.
:D

Kudos to Stotty for his NSX LM time 👍

Thanks, but I think cars like the F1 and NSX-R LM are relatively easy cars to break the 7 min barrier as they have a lot more downforce than most 'road' cars.

The Yellowbird has absolutely no chance... you'll be lucky to get under 8 minutes on sports hard, never mind 7 :lol:

You'd think it would be possible in the Enzo, but when I briefly tried it I found it to be a complete pig to drive... rubbish brakes, terminal understeer on turn in, vicious oversteer when you get back on the gas. I think I got down to a 7'06, so it might go sub 7 minutes with some decent settings, but it won't be easy.

I was thinking the V10 R8 might manage it with all the upgrades... might give that a go sometime. And the GTR-LM Road Version looks a likely suspect too.
 
I just stumbled over this thread … I'm pretty confident that a stock Amuse S2000 GT1 can break the 7 minute barrier on Sport Hards. Will try and see if I can manage it myself … or if it needs to be done by one of the aliens on this board.

Also I wonder if a maxxed-out Yellowbird could do it. That might be a project for later on because I just found my very own Yellowbird in the used car lot yesterday. Yee-haw! Have to appreciate it stock for a couple of weeks, though.
:D

Kudos to Stotty for his NSX LM time 👍

Amuse S2000 GT1 is a race car. I do not care if it does not race, it is a race car. In the same way that a Radical is not a road car. Road car and road legal are not the same... at least in my book.

Road car=produced with the intent to be a road car, closed cockpit, original version of the model (IE not a tuner) and 2 or more seats. Caparo T1 is not a road car. Radical is not a road car. I do not care what the "law says"

Why not a tuner?, it opens the field up too much. A manufacturer is limited by many things. It is far easier for a tuner to push the limits than a manufacturer. I am sure there are many tuned, road legal GTRs that could break 7 min. Maybe my logic is flawed, but I do not care.
 
Amuse S2000 GT1 is a race car. I do not care if it does not race, it is a race car. In the same way that a Radical is not a road car. Road car and road legal are not the same... at least in my book.

Road car=produced with the intent to be a road car, closed cockpit, original version of the model (IE not a tuner) and 2 or more seats. Caparo T1 is not a road car. Radical is not a road car. I do not care what the "law says"

Why not a tuner?, it opens the field up too much. A manufacturer is limited by many things. It is far easier for a tuner to push the limits than a manufacturer. I am sure there are many tuned, road legal GTRs that could break 7 min. Maybe my logic is flawed, but I do not care.

Caparo T1 is a road car and so is the Amuse S2000 GT1.
:dunce:
 
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Seeing 6:46 with an F1 makes me think...did that dude use racing tires?
There is no way, I repeat no way that F1 on sport hards can do a 6'46" lap around the Ring.
 
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I am working on getting a stock Mclaren F1 below 7 min. Today I did a very very very sloppy 7:10 flying lap. I now that 6:59.999 is possible. Once I get it I will post as much proof as humanly possible. The car is so twitchy its really hard to be smooth, but as long as I carry enough speed though each section I should be able to get it.
 
This is possibly the worst counter-argument I have ever seen. :lol:

The Amuse S2000 GT1 is a tuner/road legal car with race car-like bodykit and downforce.
Do you see the rollbar in it? Nope.
Rollbar is a must for race cars.
Caparo T1 is a road car too, just the prototype/test model tested by Top Gear didn't pass the speedbump test but it is road legal (it's registerd in UK).
Get your facts right. 👍
 
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