627PP NASCAR/ Stock Car Super Lap: Indianapolis Road Course

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Donstephan84
Nice improvement 1.27,843 #162 -> 1.27,842 #162 (yesterday evening)

I only share my tunes, if iam able to do the top 100; since Charmonix it didn´t happend :-(
Can someone confirm, that the TT´s getting more and more competitive. In December or January, i had no problem to enter the top 100. Now i had problems to do the top 200.
Is maybe that the reason for the decreasing sharing of tunes ?
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Yes, in the last month Im not getting the top 10. Just once after many hours for 91th
Maybe now we have more good drivers
 
MOPARbarrett5
It is a fairly basic tune, but I was able to get 1:27.929 with it:
Suspension-
70 60
11.50 10.50
1 1
1 1
7 7
No camber or toe
Brakes-
9 8
Transmission-
Reset to default, set final gear all the way right then set top speed to 149 mph. Next set 1st through 4th gear all the way right. Last set final gear to 3.579.
Differential-
5
5
5
Full power with oil change and body rigidity installed, no added ballast.
Downforce-
500 700
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Great setup , on lap 4 with this setup i did an 1,27.433 :cheers:
 
Aussie_HSV
While I like the long 1st gear for earlier parts of the track, I hate it for the 2 tight corners near the end.

Trying to work out the gears is proving quite a headache.
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Yes, it seems as though getting the trans just right is really critical for this event...more so than other events imo.

EDIT: Just to add, I was just around .500 behind my ghost going into the last sector to the s/f line and managed to pick up a little over .300 of it just by changing my line coming out of the infield section down to the s/f line. I crossed the line at 181 mph. so if you are having problems with that section, try changing your line. I cut across that rumble almost at the beginning of it, let my car float almost to the wall, then cut down gradually to the inside, a touch after the curbing begins. Stay to the inside until the end of the curb then let your car drift towards the middle of the track. The less you turn your wheel in this section and avoid scrubbing off your speed, the better off you'll be.

Now, beings I've been told before that I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to NASCAR, I'm sure this may not be considered the most expert advice but its working for me so I just thought I'd share it. So, just take it for what it is until the more knowledgeable arrive with better instructions. :)
 
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Just curious- has anyone found that any car(s) is better than the others? I see a lot of Juan Montoya cars at and near the top, but is that because they are the best, or is it just personal choice? Could all NASCAR cars on here be identical? Or has someone shown that to not be the case?

Thanks for any thoughts...👍
 
John 3 16
Just curious- has anyone found that any car(s) is better than the others? I see a lot of Juan Montoya cars at and near the top, but is that because they are the best, or is it just personal choice? Could all NASCAR cars on here be identical? Or has someone shown that to not be the case?

Thanks for any thoughts...👍
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I use it because Montoya used to race in F1, cars are equal:tup:
 
If you're looking for something different, you might like to try this. :)

It's a completely different setup to what I've been using. (which is similar to MOPARbarrett5's post on page 1.)
I thought I would start with a fresh outlook and try something else.

I haven't worked on it much yet, but I think I'll chase it for a while.
I just ran 1:27.3 with it, which for me is pretty good.
So I'm hopeful with a bit of work it might get me into the 26's. (best so far with original setup is 1:27.013)

I put oil in it, but haven't tried it with rigidity yet.
No ballast.

Suspension :
75 / 75
13.00 / 11.00
2 / 2
3 / 3
6 / 5
0.8 / 1.8
-0.08 / +0.18

Brakes :
6 / 8

Diff :
5 / 5 / 15

Aero :
425 / 675

No great rhyme or reason for some of those numbers really.
They just looked good at the time. :P

Same goes for the gearbox :
FG up to max.
Max. Speed down to min.
1st : min
2nd : 1.550
3rd : 1.300
4th : max
FG back down to 3.600

I'm not posting it because it's a world beater. :lol:
Only because it's a little different, and it seems like it may have some potential.
 
RacingLine
I use it because Montoya used to race in F1, cars are equal:tup:
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Watch it there with that statement. :lol:

Anyways, just had another little half hour stint making some more transmission adjustments and down to 1'26.447 for 25th place now....honing in on @SW__10 on my leaderboard. :P Just .321 behind you now. I know, I'm sure you're worried about little old me catching you. :lol:

Just wanted to add also a little observation I've had while doing this TT. Usually, as you guys know, I put endless hours into these things trying to improve. Well interestingly enough, I haven't had alot of time to throw into this, so I've only been able to do 1/2 - 1 hour stints at a time, for a total of about 2 1/2 hours. I seem to be able to improve with shorter stints and not putting in a ton of time. Think maybe I'll stay with that strategy and see what happens. Anyways, I just thought it was odd/different how things are panning out for me here in this event.
 
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Nascars are not all the same, PD may have evened them up for this TT but, they are not all the same in the game.

I have 5 total laps into this TT and no time to test anything but, I would be curious to see someone in the top 5 try a 2013 #18 vs. the Chevrolets. If PD has them even the #18 is not going to keep up with them on the long straight.

Simple test that requires no skill at all, just push the x button and go.

Take a NASCAR that has a oil fresh oil change to route x, change the downforce to 500/700, final drive to 2800, remove the toe and camber, all else stock. See what top speed you get before the hill.

I have all of them tested but here is a few of the top speeds.

2013 #18 200mph
2013 #42 203mph
2013 #48 203mph
2010 #20 202mph

Some of them go 204mph but, what do I know, they are all the same.
 
GTP_CargoRatt
Here we go again. :rolleyes: I told you to be careful with that statement. :lol: You're better off just keeping your opinions/beliefs to yourself around here.
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You should take your own advice, you tell people they are all the same and always have been and you are wrong.

Post #96 is the "here we go again", you obviously are not going to let it go. You just keep passing your opinion that they are all the same and I will keep showing that they are not. This TT they may be, in game they are not.
 
RacingLine
Just that this isn't a top speed run :lol:

I believe what you're saying though, but it's not like i have the time to test every nascar around here, i picked one i liked and off i go:tup:

@WhoosierGirl
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I understand it is not a top speed run but, the cars are slower for a reason. The reason I believe they are slower is I think they have slightly more downforce built into them. The slower top speed cars may be advantageous to someone looking for more downforce in their car and the faster cars like the 2010 fords and 2011 #83 may be suited for someone that likes a looser less downforce car.
 
WhoosierGirl
You should take your own advice, you tell people they are all the same and always have been and you are wrong.

Post #96 is the "here we go again", you obviously are not going to let it go. You just keep passing your opinion that they are all the same and I will keep showing that they are not. This TT they may be, in game they are not.
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Ah yes, opinions, opinions....they are like....well, I'm sure you know. :rolleyes:
 
MOPARbarrett5
It is a fairly basic tune, but I was able to get 1:27.929 with it
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- Great Tune, Thanks. Thought this Seasonal would be a tricky one for me but I saw this thought i'd give it a try and Blam! Silver on first Green lap. My third Gold lap left me with only 11,200 people faster than me - pretty good for me with the race being open for this long.
 
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It was all I could get in, this morning, before I left for work. Looks like I should have a few more goes and get my highest ranking yet. (aside from the occasional 1000th place i get on the first morning when no-one has had a good go at it) :lol:
 
Dr Fourtrack
It was all I could get in, this morning, before I left for work. Looks like I should have a few more goes and get my highest ranking yet. (aside from the occasional 1000th place i get on the first morning when no-one has had a good go at it) :lol:
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I tend to be online often when the Seasonal Events get updated. Yup, I have posted MANY top 25 times!! Unfortunately, there are usually only 30 times posted when I do... :lol: :D :lol: :P :banghead: :embarrassed:
 
John 3 16
Just curious- has anyone found that any car(s) is better than the others? I see a lot of Juan Montoya cars at and near the top, but is that because they are the best, or is it just personal choice? Could all NASCAR cars on here be identical? Or has someone shown that to not be the case?

Thanks for any thoughts...👍
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You can find the answer to that question I believe by checking the top 10 drivers,, they're driving Chevys. Must be something to that eh?? In any event, whether it's psychological (because the top 10 drive them) or not I could not venture a guess but I've run my best laps in a Chevy as well.. For what it's worth..
 
GTP_CargoRatt
Ah yes, opinions, opinions....they are like....well, I'm sure you know. :rolleyes:
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Opinions that are not based on facts, well they do tend to be on the smelly less pleasant side.

On the other hand when what is said is based on facts, things are more on the "boom chicka wow wow" side.


Here is the complete list of all the Nascar's that I did a few months back, they are still the same now.

Only changes from the dealership setting were...oil change, 0 camber and toe, 500/700 down force and final gear to 2800. 2800 because some of them will hit the limiter if left at 3000.

I entered single player TT mode and went to route X, removed all driving aids including abs. Accelerated to the top speed the cars would go to until they reached the hill.
This takes all driving skill out of the question, wheel or DS3 makes no difference.

199MPH cars:
2013 #43
200MPH cars:
2013 #18
2011 #14
201MPH cars:
2013 #99
202MPH cars:
2013 #14
2011 #42, #11, #20
2010 #20, #11
203MPH cars:
2013 #48, #88, #42, #20, #11
2011 #48, #88, #24, #99, #18
2010 #18, #14, #42, #48, #24, #88, #83
204MPH cars:
2013 #24
2011 #99, #83
2010 #43, #99

More facts, not an "opinion", this is PD data showing the difference on new cars with no oil change dropped down to 600pp. This is the maximum HP you can get at 600pp for each one.

717hp 84.5% power
2010 #24/#14/#48/#43/#99/#88
2011 #24/#48/#99/#88/#43/#99/#83
2013 None

716hp 84.4% power
2010 #83/#18/#20
2011 #20/#18
2013 #24/#42/#11/#48/#88/#20/#14

715hp 84.3% power
2010 #42/#11
2011 #42
2013 None

714hp 84.1% power
2010 None
2011 #14
2013 #18/#99/#43

Two examples showing that Nascar's are not all the same without even discussing how they do racing on an oval. :D
Now that would be a fun discussion.;)
 
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Finishing work at a sensible time 2 nights on the bounce is a novelty!!

Had another 45 mins on this one using @MOPARbarrett5 tune with rear df at 650 and diff at 10 10 5.

1'26.346 for 18th

Have sectors for a 25, but might need to work on the tune a tiny bit more to get the consistency.Lovely car to drive... get it turned in and you can just balance it in slight oversteer on the throttle :)
 
WhoosierGirl
Opinions that are not based on facts, well they do tend to be on the smelly less pleasant side.

On the other hand when what is said is based on facts, things are more on the "boom chicka wow wow" side.


Here is the complete list of all the Nascar's that I did a few months back, they are still the same now.

Only changes from the dealership setting were...oil change, 0 camber and toe, 500/700 down force and final gear to 2800. 2800 because some of them will hit the limiter if left at 3000.

I entered single player TT mode and went to route X, removed all driving aids including abs. Accelerated to the top speed the cars would go to until they reached the hill.
This takes all driving skill out of the question, wheel or DS3 makes no difference.

199MPH cars:
2013 #43
200MPH cars:
2013 #18
2011 #14
201MPH cars:
2013 #99
202MPH cars:
2013 #14
2011 #42, #11, #20
2010 #20, #11
203MPH cars:
2013 #48, #88, #42, #20, #11
2011 #48, #88, #24, #99, #18
2010 #18, #14, #42, #48, #24, #88, #83
204MPH cars:
2013 #24
2011 #99, #83
2010 #43, #99

More facts, not an "opinion", this is PD data showing the difference on new cars with no oil change dropped down to 600pp. This is the maximum HP you can get at 600pp for each one.

717hp 84.5% power
2010 #24/#14/#48/#43/#99/#88
2011 #24/#48/#99/#88/#43/#99/#83
2013 None

716hp 84.4% power
2010 #83/#18/#20
2011 #20/#18
2013 #24/#42/#11/#48/#88/#20/#14

715hp 84.3% power
2010 #42/#11
2011 #42
2013 None

714hp 84.1% power
2010 None
2011 #14
2013 #18/#99/#43

Two examples showing that Nascar's are not all the same without even discussing how they do racing on an oval. :D
Now that would be a fun discussion.;)
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Thank you WhoosierGirl! :cheers:
Your efforts are very much appreciated and with that,, all or any question of which car is FASTER is settled. Quicker??,, now that's a totally different subject and is extremely subjective. There are so many different scenarios, variables, etc it's not worthwhile to delve into. From a GEEZER,, we appreciate you taking the time to compile and post this information. :bowdown:
 
WhoosierGirl
Opinions that are not based on facts, well they do tend to be on the smelly less pleasant side.

On the other hand when what is said is based on facts, things are more on the "boom chicka wow wow" side.


Here is the complete list of all the Nascar's that I did a few months back, they are still the same now.

Only changes from the dealership setting were...oil change, 0 camber and toe, 500/700 down force and final gear to 2800. 2800 because some of them will hit the limiter if left at 3000.

I entered single player TT mode and went to route X, removed all driving aids including abs. Accelerated to the top speed the cars would go to until they reached the hill.
This takes all driving skill out of the question, wheel or DS3 makes no difference.

199MPH cars:
2013 #43
200MPH cars:
2013 #18
2011 #14
201MPH cars:
2013 #99
202MPH cars:
2013 #14
2011 #42, #11, #20
2010 #20, #11
203MPH cars:
2013 #48, #88, #42, #20, #11
2011 #48, #88, #24, #99, #18
2010 #18, #14, #42, #48, #24, #88, #83
204MPH cars:
2013 #24
2011 #99, #83
2010 #43, #99

More facts, not an "opinion", this is PD data showing the difference on new cars with no oil change dropped down to 600pp. This is the maximum HP you can get at 600pp for each one.

717hp 84.5% power
2010 #24/#14/#48/#43/#99/#88
2011 #24/#48/#99/#88/#43/#99/#83
2013 None

716hp 84.4% power
2010 #83/#18/#20
2011 #20/#18
2013 #24/#42/#11/#48/#88/#20/#14

715hp 84.3% power
2010 #42/#11
2011 #42
2013 None

714hp 84.1% power
2010 None
2011 #14
2013 #18/#99/#43

Two examples showing that Nascar's are not all the same without even discussing how they do racing on an oval. :D
Now that would be a fun discussion.;)
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Testing trumps opinions every time:tup:👍
 
Daduce1947
Thank you WhoosierGirl! :cheers:
Your efforts are very much appreciated and with that,, all or any question of which car is FASTER is settled. Quicker??,, now that's a totally different subject and is extremely subjective. There are so many different scenarios, variables, etc it's not worthwhile to delve into. From a GEEZER,, we appreciate you taking the time to compile and post this information. :bowdown:
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You are very welcome, I like information :) Back when I did this I completed the entire lap to be able to look at them ghost vs. ghost if I wanted. I hope I described this correctly in how they accelerate using car A(faster car) and car B(slower car) as an example.

If car A is faster than car B, car A is never behind car B. None of car B's ghosts would be quicker to take off and eventually be overtaken by Car A's ghosts. Basically to me it shows that the fastest top speed cars are also the quickest cars, they just slowly start pulling away right from the start. I added the only picture that I have of the leaderboard as I was doing this.

Johnnypenso
Testing trumps opinions every time:tup:👍
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👍

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WhoosierGirl
You are very welcome, I like information :) Back when I did this I completed the entire lap to be able to look at them ghost vs. ghost if I wanted. I hope I described this correctly in how they accelerate using car A(faster car) and car B(slower car) as an example.

If car A is faster than car B, car A is never behind car B. None of car B's ghosts would be quicker to take off and eventually be overtaken by Car A's ghosts. Basically to me it shows that the fastest top speed cars are also the quickest cars, they just slowly start pulling away right from the start. I added the only picture that I have of the leaderboard as I was doing this.



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You go girl!:cheers::lol:
 

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