83rd Running Of The Le Mans 24 Hours - 13/14 June 2015.

[R5]

Did that Ferrari just overtake the Audi, or am I already hallucinating from tiredness?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Apparently the #21 car was only built and briefly tested a week before the race.

 

[Wavey2014]

Did that Ferrari just overtake the Audi, or am I already hallucinating from tiredness?

The Ferrari nearly took out the Audi...

 

[yzfmike]

Apparently the #21 car was only built and briefly tested a week before the race.

At Le Man airport IIRC.

 

[Bram Turismo]

They have far less power but look at their trap speeds. Now imagine it with more than double the power. That's next years cars.

It does not work that way.

The ACO will never let a car go faster than 350 km/h. Just look at the rule changes for next year. They are doing everything to keep slowing the LMP1 cars down.

Top speeds are likely to never increase. Look at 1999. Toyota hit 350 km/h with a 600hp car. Now these cars barely hit 340 km/h with 1200 hp. 15 years later.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Apparently the #21 car was only built and briefly tested a week before the race.

Very interesting. Didn't realize they were pressed for time? At that point I wouldn't have entered the third car but it went a long way so more power to them.

 

[Bo]

Apparently the #21 car was only built and briefly tested a week before the race.

It ran about 100 metres before the first session just to check it moved.

 

[Arveena]

He said "we have simulated times for next year but i cant promise that we can reach them. We need to see if we can get them on the track and even then we dont know if its enough for the top spots"

But go on I actually have contact to alot of the nissan guys I spent a few days last year with them and still have contact to the winners and other finalist and also mades some friends who are working with nissan and the marketing agency which was organising the final last year. Believe me they are not happy i will cheer for them but fact is this year is a dissappointment. They learned a lot but they wanted at least to finish one car without proper problems. 22 might have done it but bad luck.
If they would have your mindset not seeing mistakes and failures they have done they would be wrong in this buisness.
Seriously you can cheer for them i guess most people here do but dont think they are happy with this or think this was their goal.

 

[sk8er913]

I don't think they expected it either, but you won't know how much you need to work on the car if you don't know how much time you need to make up.

#22 & #23 are in the garage, but they are working on them diligently.

Have the said an approximate time for when they are going back out?

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

I think they're racing mostly for money? I'm pretty sure FIA recognizes HY and non HY cars on LeMans.

It costs €52000 to enter the race.

The overall winner gets €40000 and each class winner €10000

They aren't racing for money.

 

[Speedracer8218]

Ah back to FS live stream... Was getting sick of FS1 and all the blah blah

 

[G.T.Ace]

So Timo Bernhard is driving 3:19s currently.

 

[Bo]

@Arveena nobody's discussing this. You're just looking to start a flame war.

Anybody with the P2 info?

 

[ukfan758]

Apparently a truck series race (basically the GP3 of NASCAR) has more importance than the biggest race of the year...

 

[R5]

The Ferrari nearly took out the Audi...

Ah.

So... kinda.

 

[Ameer67]

Apparently a truck series race (basically the GP3 of NASCAR) has more importance than the biggest race of the year...

Murica.

 

[Speedracer8218]

He said "we have simulated times for next year but i cant promise that we can reach them. We need to see if we can get them on the track and even then we dont know if its enough for the top spots"

But go on I actually have contact to alot of the nissan guys I spent a few days last year with them and still have contact to the winners and other finalist and also mades some friends who are working with nissan and the marketing agency which was organising the final last year. Believe me they are not happy i will cheer for them but fact is this year is a dissappointment. They learned a lot but they wanted at least to finish one car without proper problems. 22 might have done it but bad luck.
If they would have your mindset not seeing mistakes and failures they have done they would be wrong in this buisness.
Seriously you can cheer for them i guess most people here do but dont think they are happy with this or think this was their goal.

Dood!!! Hush!!!

 

[Downhill Dino]

It costs €52000 to enter the race.

The overall winner gets €40000 and each class winner €10000

They aren't racing for money.

What do the sponsors pay out out of curiousity? I'm not saying they're racing for money, but I'm sure it's still a nice paycheck right?

 

[Willfred_1]

It does not work that way.

The ACO will never let a car go faster than 350 km/h. Just look at the rule changes for next year. They are doing everything to keep slowing the LMP1 cars down.

Top speeds are likely to never increase. Look at 1999. Toyota hit 350 km/h with a 600hp car. Now these cars barely hit 340 km/h with 1200 hp. 15 years later.

I'm aware of that but the cars designed to go in a straight line fast and efficiently. The design is far more effiecnt this means it can use less fuel which means less pitstops. To win lemans you need to be in the pits for the shortest possible time during the 24.

 

[CodeRedR51]

It does not work that way.

The ACO will never let a car go faster than 350 km/h. Just look at the rule changes for next year. They are doing everything to keep slowing the LMP1 cars down.

Top speeds are likely to never increase. Look at 1999. Toyota hit 350 km/h with a 600hp car. Now these cars barely hit 340 km/h with 1200 hp. 15 years later.

Yeah when you listen to the on board cameras for Porsche, etc. The boost from the KERS only lasts for so long and then after that it's just the engine power taking the car to top speed. So based on the Nissan's current top speed, they are not far off. They just need the KERS and the AWD in the corners to make up most of the time they are down.

It ran about 100 metres before the first session just to check it moved.

News to me, I just heard about it on their stream. Pretty crazy.

 

[sk8er913]

He said "we have simulated times for next year but i cant promise that we can reach them. We need to see if we can get them on the track and even then we dont know if its enough for the top spots"

I wonder if the simulated times are our GTAcademy times. Lol!

 

[AJ]

Hour 11 Lap Analysis

- Looks like the rain is going to miss Le Mans now.

 

[sk8er913]

Fox has gone home. The only coverage we have is the onboard corvette... hows Nissans YouTube coverage?

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

What do the sponsors pay out out of curiousity? I'm not saying they're racing for money, but I'm sure it's still a nice paycheck right?

You'll find a lot of the sponsors on the cars are owned by the drivers or drivers family members.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Wonderful idea but with the amount of specialised tech in the cars it's unlikely. I'd like to see a class for LMP1-H cars without hybrids though... a 919 without Hybrid system vs Rebellion could be a decent battle.

I thought the same originally but then I thought about it some more. Ferrari are willing to sell Gene Haas engines, gearboxes, suspensions, brakes, etc him them to build an F1 car around so why couldn't Collin Kolles knock on Audi's door and buy a pre-built Audi R18 and a big box of spares.

 

[ClydeYellow]

Apparently a truck series race (basically the GP3 of NASCAR) has more importance than the biggest race of the year...

It's like having a Formula Redneck!

@Arveena, can we stop discussing that, before this thread turns into a warzone? Because I think we may all have had a bit too much to drink, courtesy of the Krohn car...

 

[ukfan758]

It does not work that way.

The ACO will never let a car go faster than 350 km/h. Just look at the rule changes for next year. They are doing everything to keep slowing the LMP1 cars down.

Top speeds are likely to never increase. Look at 1999. Toyota hit 350 km/h with a 600hp car. Now these cars barely hit 340 km/h with 1200 hp. 15 years later.

I have never been able to fathom why they want to slow the cars down so much, the cars and the track are safer than ever before with tons of runoff and safer walls (bar some parts of the Porsche Curves whose concrete walls could be replaced with tec pro barriers) plus there have been chicanes in the main straight for over two decades...

 

[Whodoyouthink]

Is this the first year of the WEC using all of the cameras all-night long? I think I remember previous years only using the onboards.

Don't think so. Unsure on what the first year was that cameras were kept on the whole race, but I do recall around 2012, when SPEED was dying off, as their last big gift, they broadcasted essentially the whole race. I think broadcasting the race might be a more recent thing, more so than having a feed of the whole race.

I'm curious about this too.

 

[Bo]

51 for Lieb, 3 seconds quicker than the Audi. Game of numbers currently.

 

[ClydeYellow]

I have never been able to fathom why they want to slow the cars down so much, the cars and the track are safer than ever before with tons of runoff and safer walls (bar some parts of the Porsche Curves whose concrete walls could be replaced with tec pro barriers) plus there have been chicanes in the main straight for over two decades...

Because Le Mans is a multi-class race. Now, imagine a LMP1-H car impacting with the rear of a GT car at 430+ kph, if you wish. There it is, you have your answer.