85th Running Of The 24 Hours Of Le Mans, 17-18 June 2017Sports Cars

[Famine]

You HAVE to do the last lap and cross the finish line otherwise you can be a million laps in front and it will not matter = you don't finish. No points.

I'm aware of this - it's literally what happened last year - however there are only two cars in LMP1 that can finish the race. The #1 Porsche is third in that class, because it got further than all but two other cars in the class. Would they leave the third step of the LMP1 podium empty?

The #1 Porsche is also only third in its class currently. There's a little while until the #2 passes it for distance (despite passing it for classification) and even longer until the #8 does. If issues strike either car before then, would they be classified behind the #1?

 

[NW48]

First time ever in the history of Le Mans, an LMP2 car has led the race.

 

[Amac500]

If push comes to shove, the 38 has a French driver in it and the 2 does not, so good luck with judgement steward calls Porsche lol, watch those track limits.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

By the way, the math I did to say that the Porsche would catch the Jota with 45 minutes to go was based on the Porsche running 13 seconds per lap quicker. I did it based on the #2 turning 3:20's and the 37 turning 3:33's.

The LMP2 car will lose a couple of minutes through the shorter stint lengths it can run too, I think the Porsche has won. Could be one of the most amazing come-backs in Le Mans history.

 

[Amac500]

Still a lot of time for a possible safety car. You just never know in this race.

A short safety car could also benefit the 2 depending on how they group up behind safety cars. That could be a real crap shoot.

 

[meeekael]

Let's go #2!!!!!!!!

 

[Silent Drifter]

This race has been like racing of old, where reliability is the determining factor.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

First time ever in the history of Le Mans, an LMP2 car has led the race.

Don't mean to be "that guy" but according to Wikipedia an LMP2 car qualified on pole in 1995

 

[AudiMan2011]

#2 running 10 seconds a lap faster than the #38. Porsche could yet save this for LMP1.

 

[Amac500]

I'm aware of this - it's literally what happened last year - however there are only two cars in LMP1 that can finish the race. The #1 Porsche is third in that class, because it got further than all but two other cars in the class. Would they leave the third step of the LMP1 podium empty?

The #1 Porsche is also only third in its class currently. There's a little while until the #2 passes it for distance (despite passing it for classification) and even longer until the #8 does. If issues strike either car before then, would they be classified behind the #1?

If only 2 cars finish the class, the last car DQ'd would get the podium, so long as it completed 70% race distance.

 

[Com Fox]

This is probably the first time I actually cared about what's going on in LMP2 and cheering for one of them. GO JACKIE CHAN DC RACING GO!!!

 

[Tired Tyres]

I'm aware of this - it's literally what happened last year - however there are only two cars in LMP1 that can finish the race. The #1 Porsche is third in that class, because it got further than all but two other cars in the class. Would they leave the third step of the LMP1 podium empty?

The #1 Porsche is also only third in its class currently. There's a little while until the #2 passes it for distance (despite passing it for classification) and even longer until the #8 does. If issues strike either car before then, would they be classified behind the #1?

Yes empty. #2 wins and #8 is 2nd - even if it did less laps than #1. That car is out so no 3rd place in LMP1.

 

[NW48]

Don't mean to be "that guy" but according to Wikipedia an LMP2 car qualified on pole in 1995

Looks like the commentators have made a mistake on their statistics then

 

[Vinylshark]

Am I glad that we have GTE Pro at Le Mans.

 

[eran0004]

Let's go #2!!!!!!!!

They need to catch about 10 to 12 seconds per lap to win, and currently they are catching about 10. The LMP2 cars need to pit more often than the Porsche, so it's going to be really close at the end!

 

[Silent Drifter]

#38 has to replace the tail and having problems putting it on.

 

[Amac500]

So with the 38 changing the rear section that puts the 2 back on track to catch the 38 with 45 minutes left.

 

[NW48]

Think this will be a good time to duck away from the TV to have a shower. Hopefully I don't miss much.

 

[AnthonyD1993]

"Think of us as the NHS of endurance racing."

Hindhaugh with another gem of a quote.

 

[JayOTT]

Not like this, not like this.... DAMNIT!

 

[Organ-Donor]

Is the Fox sports go stream playing commercials now?

 

[Famine]

If only 2 cars finish the class, the last car DQ'd would get the podium, so long as it completed 70% race distance.

Retirement isn't disqualification - and disqualified cars get nothing. They're moved to the very bottom of unclassified finishers.

Nonetheless, you're saying that they get the third place trophy and @Tired Tyres is saying they don't:

Yes empty. #2 wins and #8 is 2nd - even if it did less laps than #1. That car is out so no 3rd place in LMP1.

So which is it?

The second part of the question is if the #2 and #8 are moved behind it in the classification if they retire before passing it on the road.

 

[Quakebass]

Also consider this - the #1 Porsche had been going off-maximum pace just to carry itself safely to victory - the #2, since leaving the pits, has been going at full chat pretty much the whole time, trying to recover positions - it may have been fixed more recently and did less time on the circuit, but it's been getting pushed harder, and could also have a failure sooner than the #1 did.

If that happens, LMP2 will win outright, and Toyota could win LMP1 without even being on the overall podium. Or LMP1 could end up having no finishers at all.

Absolutely unbelivable.

 

[Michelin Man]

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I have a kip for about an hour and there's a new leader of the race, what happened to the #1?

 

[sems4arsenal]

Ok since this race is crazy, I'll dare ask how many cars need to retire for the #8 to win?

 

[Amac500]

Retirement isn't disqualification - and disqualified cars get nothing. They're moved to the very bottom of unclassified finishers.

Nonetheless, you're saying that they get the third place trophy and @Tired Tyres is saying they don't:

So which is it?

The second part of the question is if the #2 and #8 are moved behind it in the classification if they retire before passing it on the road.

Right, disqualified isn't the right word but moved down. You have to finish 70% of the race to score points, so if the completed 70% of the race it should still score points. Let me check out the scoring from last year and see how they scored the Toyota at the end.

 

[Silent Drifter]

Ok since this race is crazy, I'll dare ask how many cars need to retire for the #8 to win?

8. They are 9th overall

 

[Organ-Donor]

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I have a kip for about an hour and there's a new leader of the race, what happened to the #1?

Died on track

 

[Silent Drifter]

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I have a kip for about an hour and there's a new leader of the race, what happened to the #1?

Engine problems

 

[Vinylshark]

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I have a kip for about an hour and there's a new leader of the race, what happened to the #1?

Loss of oil pressure (I think).