85th Running Of The 24 Hours Of Le Mans, 17-18 June 2017Sports Cars 

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I also hate these slow zones They make it look like they have problems.
I think we briefly discussed in this thread yesterday whether the slow zones were causing them to have problems, the stop-start putting pressure on the parts and not getting enough air in the car for cooling when they're running hot.
 
yeah, and with all the risks it has been taking it could get a puncture, break something. So we just have to sit back and watch.

I also hate these slow zones They make it look like they have problems.
Here is another thought, where is the #2 at in its tire allotment? The higher temps increase the rate of degradation and that car has been pushing. Will it be able to make it on tires if it can't make it to the end of the planned stint in these hot temps?
 
If you are Jota do you get the mighty 38 to run at a pace to win LMP2 - a brilliant achievement - or push even harder to try to be in a position to hold of the Porsche in the final few laps?

E - The #8 Toyota is within a lap of the top 10 now.
 
Next year might be really bad with no big brands if after today Toyota and Porsche decide not to spend another X million dollars to compete with LMP2 teams who spend a fraction of the money...

Good for today if an LMP2 wins. Bad for WEC's future season/s.
 
I think we briefly discussed in this thread yesterday whether the slow zones were causing them to have problems, the stop-start putting pressure on the parts and not getting enough air in the car for cooling when they're running hot.
Was definitely thrown around. I think the biggest note in the final hours is that with the extra running at speed they do in slow zone laps compairable to a safety, late race mechanical failures likely wouldn't have happened under last year's rules.
 
Proper Vette v Aston stuff in GTE Pro. It's like the first Le Mans I watched, 2006, all over again. And at this rate the winner of that will probably finish 4th overall as well.
 
Here's some fun.

LMP1 has two remaining cars, with the defending champion #2 Porsche leading the #8 Toyota.

Third in class is the #1 Porsche. It has retired but has completed 75% of the race distance. Do they still get classified 3rd? If either of the other two LMP1s retire before passing the #1's lap count, will the #1 be promoted? If they both do, will it be 1st in LMP1?
 
Still a good Corvette, and Aston GT Pro battle. Porsche in it too, depending on pit sequence.

4 more laps and the #38 can take the overall lead.
 
Well, looks like my body didn't pick such a bad time to wake me up again.................

How much faster does #2 have to go per lap to catch #38? Is it feasible?
 
Here's some fun.

LMP1 has two remaining cars, with the defending champion #2 Porsche leading the #8 Toyota.

Third in class is the #1 Porsche. It has retired but has completed 75% of the race distance. Do they still get 3rd? If either of the other two LMP1s retire before passing the #1's lap count, will the #1 be promoted? If they both do, will it be 1st in LMP1?
You HAVE to do the last lap and cross the finish line otherwise you can be a million laps in front and it will not matter = you don't finish. No points.
 
If you are Jota do you get the mighty 38 to run at a pace to win LMP2 - a brilliant achievement - or push even harder to try to be in a position to hold of the Porsche in the final few laps?

E - The #8 Toyota is within a lap of the top 10 now.
Hold the 🤬 Porsche! Unless you know of a factory program coming to Jota in the near future, you go for the win now. When else you getting your name on a manhole cover?
 
Was definitely thrown around. I think the biggest note in the final hours is that with the extra running at speed they do in slow zone laps compairable to a safety, late race mechanical failures likely wouldn't have happened under last year's rules.
Definitely compared to a safety car period but what about slow zone vs full green running. Earlier in the race we were seeing slow zones for barrier repairs which are the equivalent of coming down the pitlane every lap for half an hour, is that enough for the heat soak to fry the electrics since the cars are not designed for stop/start racing.
 
If you are Jota do you get the mighty 38 to run at a pace to win LMP2 - a brilliant achievement - or push even harder to try to be in a position to hold of the Porsche in the final few laps?
Surely you've got to go for broke and try to win Le Mans outright? This is a rare opportunity that this team might not ever get again, risk it all!
 
By the way, the math I did to say that the Porsche would catch the Jota with 45 minutes to go was based on the Porsche running 13 seconds per lap quicker. I did it based on the #2 turning 3:20's and the 37 turning 3:33's.
 
Definitely compared to a safety car period but what about slow zone vs full green running. Earlier in the race we were seeing slow zones for barrier repairs which are the equivalent of coming down the pitlane every lap for half an hour, is that enough for the heat soak to fry the electrics since the cars are not designed for stop/start racing.
That I don't know, but I also can't say it would be worse than running under full safety car. All the extra decelerations can add up, and hey, maybe that was a factor on the #8 car, but I think the extra strain might be slightly more of an issue.
 
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