Ace Combat: Infinity

[Icarus25]

Save up fuel for tournaments? And what of people who don't care about tournaments? I really couldn't care if I get in the top 1000 in anything. I play to have fun and use my fuel when *I* decide to. You can play however you want, but don't tell me what is or isn't a waste of fuel. I've been playing long enough to know the ins and outs of the offered challenges, don't come in here talking to me as if I have no clue what's going on.

 

[sumbrownkid]

Just confirming for everyone, yes you have to pay in game credits per sortie now. Cost depends on your plane (the better it is the higher up the tree it is the more you have to pay).

Well good thing I got 3+ million credits saved up then.

Rainy day, right? @Bobert power

 

[mistapanther]

Save up fuel for tournaments? And what of people who don't care about tournaments? I really couldn't care if I get in the top 1000 in anything. I play to have fun and use my fuel when *I* decide to. You can play however you want, but don't tell me what is or isn't a waste of fuel. I've been playing long enough to know the ins and outs of the offered challenges, don't come in here talking to me as if I have no clue what's going on.

If you don't care about tournaments then your still getting about 9 sorties per day. I'm sure you can figure how much time 9 sorties consist of. The reason it sounded like I treated you as if you knew nothing about challenges, aside from our goals, is because you incorrectly stated that they -removed- the challenges when they, like the ADFX-01, are -limited-. Then you went on to say that their making it -harder- to collect fuel when all they did was phase out limited events.


If you've been playing long enough you should know better otherwise you'll feel offended when someone corrects you. Oh and if you were playing long enough, seeing as you have 3mill saved up, you'd know that they've done this before and infact since launch I believe they changed up the challenges abit to make it easier to grind fuel.

 

[sumbrownkid]

@mistapanther: I personally hope they add more specific aircraft challenges. Maybe more attacker type challenges.

 

[spencer7x7]

I finally managed to play the tutorial and 1st mission, controls are kinda tricky but maybe I'll get used to them eventually. Also I crashed once...

 

[Frizbe]

I finally managed to play the tutorial and 1st mission, controls are kinda tricky but maybe I'll get used to them eventually. Also I crashed once...

Have you flown in Dubi yet? Feels like every freaking time I accidentally find the side of a building when playing there.

 

[Bobert power]

Is it bad as a Major to use flight assist just to keep a Su35 from stalling all the time?

 

[sumbrownkid]

Is it bad as a Major to use flight assist just to keep a Su35 from stalling all the time?

Let's just forget you said that....

 

[Akira AC]

And the team death match starts.

And boy is this different from AC6.

 

[Frizbe]

Wow all I can say is 🤬 TDM. What a waste of fuel that was.

 

[Revoy]

I haven't tried it yet, but judging from responses I've seen on other websites they seemed to have had a lot of fun, albeit lacking rewards.

 

[Icarus25]

If you don't care about tournaments then your still getting about 9 sorties per day. I'm sure you can figure how much time 9 sorties consist of. The reason it sounded like I treated you as if you knew nothing about challenges, aside from our goals, is because you incorrectly stated that they -removed- the challenges when they, like the ADFX-01, are -limited-. Then you went on to say that their making it -harder- to collect fuel when all they did was phase out limited events.

I did not "incorrectly" state they removed them. Just because they were limited does not mean they couldn't replace them with a similar challenge with different planes. And since you seem to like pulling inaccuracies out of thin air, how do you project that it's possible to get 9 sorties in a day? Do you expect people to drop what they're doing every 12 hours to go through the 3 supplied fuel? There's only 4 challenges that reward fuel, and only one has a cooldown of 24 hours.

And it's not about sorties per day, it's sorties per session. I could get in 6 sorties in a session with the challenges and still increase my stocked fuel. Those 6 sorties was a Goldilocks amount of time to play the game. It's not possible to do now without blowing through stocked fuel, which is where my problem lies. They took what was a reasonable amount of game time and made it so you either have to play multiple times per day to get the same amount of sorties, or buy fuel. I don't think I've played any other F2P game that limits your playtime as much as AC:I does now. I can't recall one that limited me to ~30 minutes of game play at a time.

Fact: It's now *harder* to collect fuel in one single gaming session.
But hey, congrats on failing to counter any of my valid points.

I'm also not the one who said they have 3 mil credits. Reading comprehension, learn it.

 

[Akira AC]

If you are good, you will love it, if you are bad, you will hate it.


So far I'm loving it, but the investment is not worth the cause, you get very little credit for what is a very limited time mission.



Great rewards per kill, but considering how much you can get by playing co-op, is no worth the investment.

 

[Downhill Dino]

They took what was a reasonable amount of game time and made it so you either have to play multiple times per day to get the same amount of sorties, or buy fuel.

There's your answer smart one. Welcome to free to play.

 

[Akira AC]

Brief experience with pvp.


Is interesting but ... it gets boring really really fast, top players have outright lvl 10 planes that allow more parts slots, my modest Mig-21 lvl 5 managed to MVP 2/6 matches, but is rather silly against Mir-2000 and F-16 SP missiles, I could level up those but is not worth the effort, plus I'm tired of getting in loops, then getting out of the loop, then fly away and strike from afar by speeding towards the TMD cluster:censored: and get whichever points and kills I can get.

Missiles dumbed down help a lot (QAAM basically broke pvp in AC6 for being too manoeuvrable), but then you have the problem stats and parts. I needed to have a part so I don't being shot down by a single missile, taking one space and compromising performance, it depends on the aircraft, but is more balanced (apparently).



All in all is fun, but I'm having more fun just by playing competitive PvE, better progress and a bigger sense of accomplishment at the end of the round, plus more points and so on.


ADFX-01 is still something I do not own, darn random package hasn't showed up yet and I'm nearing the 100th sortie after the random drop was launched.

 

[Revoy]

I haven't tried it yet, but judging from responses I've seen on other websites they seemed to have had a lot of fun, albeit lacking rewards.

This little event is going to cost people their wallets. It's very fun but the lack of rewards make it a win/lose situation. You either play PvE and reap the high(er) rewards, or play PvP and show off your skills and gain some personal bragging rights with a grin on your face..or a frown.

For me I flopped my first games. No surprise since I didn't know what exactly to expect and I forgot to switch to Expert so I was literally a fish out of water (puns puns..).
But once you get the hang of it, there's nothing more satisfying than getting a kill and knowing you didn't just get lucky.

I use my Lv. 5 Mig 21 with MGP and boy is it satisfying. Going off pure assumptions I'm going to say 3 out of 4 of my kills are with guns. My last match I had to play 2vs1 (my teammate left) and it was crazy.

 

[Bobert power]

I will sum up ACI TDM like this: F16 pilots flying in circles using OP missiles! But seriously, i flew a F4 phantom, and got MVP already with 20K, just to prove those "circlejerks" wrong.

 

[LJP64]

@ Icarus25...

I totally agree with you, with those 2 fuel challenges removed, I mean "ended", it is now much harder to collect fuel beyond the miserable 3 supplied fuel units. And as you pointed out, the last fuel giving challenges have very long cooldown times, the worst one being that challenge requiring you to get 20 rescue bonuses in 2 days : one week cooldown.
This will dramatically reduce my daily sortie rate.

I could not test the PvP mode, as those darn idiots made it start at 4 a.m. this morning (UTC)... very good when you got to be working at 8, indeed.
I'll try my level-8 F-16 tonight and see what happens.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I'm now down from 8 sorties a day to just 6. I win 2 stocked fuels a day and usually a 1 or 3 random drop of stocked fuel.

Now I have 2 less chances of the latter and I don't get my nice 5 sortie early evening session anymore.

Still I should still be able to grab at least 10 stored fuels for my Saturday extended session.

I don't have any friends with this game so I could use some. Bear in mind that I'm only at 5027 (last time I looked) but I don't mind high level friends as long as they stick to the air targets and leave me to attack my usual ground targets.

It would be for Co-Op mostly, I'm not interested in TDM so much but I would not mind trying it.

 

[LJP64]

I'm now down from 8 sorties a day to just 6. I win 2 stocked fuels a day and usually a 1 or 3 random drop of stocked fuel.

Now I have 2 less chances of the latter and I don't get my nice 5 sortie early evening session anymore.

Still I should still be able to grab at least 10 stored fuels for my Saturday extended session.

I don't have any friends with this game so I could use some. Bear in mind that I'm only at 5027 (last time I looked) but I don't mind high level friends as long as they stick to the air targets and leave me to attack my usual ground targets.

It would be for Co-Op mostly, I'm not interested in TDM so much but I would not mind trying it.

1 to 3 random drops of stocked fuel... You're a lucky man, I sometimes get 1 (but usually I get those crappy 1,200cr instead). At least, I had a little more luck with the red-winged Morgan : it popped out last sunday, compared to the 3.5 weeks I needed to get the Zipang, with 8 sorties per day at that time and more on weekends.

Your coop proposal is interesting, this could be used with one of the invitation-related challenges which give stocked fuel...

 

[Geopan973]

I don't have any friends with this game so I could use some. Bear in mind that I'm only at 5027 (last time I looked) but I don't mind high level friends as long as they stick to the air targets and leave me to attack my usual ground targets.

It would be for Co-Op mostly, I'm not interested in TDM so much but I would not mind trying it.

Sounds like a good deal. I usually fly fighters (I don't know why, I actually discovered the fact a week before, when I stumbled on my statistics ...) and secondarily multirole-fighters. I don't mind been assigned specific roles on a mission (e.g. CAP ) as long as I get every now and then to be a mud mover.

If you set it up, I'm in. I usually can sign in at 22.00+ GMT working days(work, kids, etc.). I also use a similar tactic of extended Saturday night sessions. PSNid geopan973.

BTW, what do you mean by "I'm only at 5027"? I surely hope that it's not your level, because I am at 1500+...

 

[LJP64]

Sounds good to me too.
I usually use fighter or multirole aircraft (love my good old Mirage), almost never attackers (maybe i'll change my mind when I unlock the Su-34)...
I generally attack air targets, plus light ground targets (SAMs and AA guns) when they just require one run... For the ground targets, I focus on SAMs and AA guns because they give rescue bonuses, much useful when I want to get a Mercenary Contract...

My level, erh... (below) average, 1566 (as of yesterday).

I'm usually on-line at 9 p.m. CEST (Paris time, i.e. GMT+2) till midnight more or less.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Sounds like a good deal. I usually fly fighters (I don't know why, I actually discovered the fact a week before, when I stumbled on my statistics ...) and secondarily multirole-fighters. I don't mind been assigned specific roles on a mission (e.g. CAP ) as long as I get every now and then to be a mud mover.

If you set it up, I'm in. I usually can sign in at 22.00+ GMT working days(work, kids, etc.). I also use a similar tactic of extended Saturday night sessions. PSNid geopan973.

BTW, what do you mean by "I'm only at 5027"? I surely hope that it's not your level, because I am at 1500+...

That's either wishful thinking or less than accurate typing. It's 1527 and Tired_Tyres is the PSN. 👍

 

[Akira AC]

Not to brag but ... MVP five times in a row in PvP, I'm basically Demon Lord of the round table.


I'm hyped and owning everything on this, might as well just play 2 stocked per day and all my restored fuel for the next 2-3 days.

Still 28 fuel left and ranking 380 in the tournament.

 

[mistapanther]

Not to brag but ... MVP five times in a row in PvP, I'm basically Demon Lord of the round table.


I'm hyped and owning everything on this, might as well just play 2 stocked per day and all my restored fuel for the next 2-3 days.

Still 28 fuel left and ranking 380 in the tournament.

I'm going to find you in my whimpy lv2 mirage and..... do stuff >_>.


Just wait until TDM officially gets added you think the circlejerking is bad now? you've experienced nothing!

 

[sumbrownkid]

I tried PVP today....and let's just it's not my cup of coffee.

But I am super hyped for campaign mission 7 at B7R.

 

[Bobert power]

I think i'll test Expert flight controls for co op later on today. I've tested them alot in campaign and flight testing with the Su35 and it feels so much better. My F14 is just the iceing on the cake with the controls!

 

[guywithanAE86]

Man I dig PVP, and not just because I can dogfight

I forgot how stupidly maneuverable the MiG-21bis is, even if it's just a big fuselage with some wings.

I just like this game. I wish we had a longer campaign though. And custom paint. I need to resurrect my ex-infamous blue F-35B that got me in the top 1000 in assault horizon.

 

[spencer7x7]

I just got a Morgan, is it good? Is it rare? Seems better than the zebra plane.

 

[Bobert power]

I just got a Morgan, is it good? Is it rare? Seems better than the zebra plane.

The ADFX-01? That's an OP plane. You're probably better off with a F-14A, and i'm not saying that because F14 master race.