Ace Combat: Infinity

[Flaren89]

@ibnumgt1 My best are the Rafale M -VA- and F-15 -PX- just because were random drops, on the regular aircraft tree my best one should be... The Typhoon if I decide to buy it, otherwise it's the lv4 F-117 Nighthawk I use now waiting to get the F-15 S/MTD. Plus consider that there are ppl playing from day-one, me playing from only a couple of weeks trying to use always all 6 supplied fuel each day + the stocked (now with the combo with mercenary contract I'm suggesting to LJP64.

@LJP64 Good good, now keep stock them untill next weekend, no reason to waste all this fuel on this weekend for a "poor" F-20. When a special version of a high tier aircraft (like was 2 weeks ago the Su-37 -Y13-) is up as tournament reward, burn everything you got as soon as x3 fuel usage is up by also activating mercenary contract at that time.

EDIT P.S.: vitocorp also replied in the same moment of me, it's the last post of last page.

 

[LJP64]

@Flaren89
If I burn my stocked fuel, it will be to grind credits to upgrade my Sukoi's. I will not bother trying to get a special aircraft that I may never get.
I need 480 grands to level my Su-34 to level 6. I'm out of money now, as I've just upgraded the Su-47 to level 7...
The Berkut is really becoming a deadly beast. I can now shoot almost all planes with one hit, except the top-tier ones (only the Su-45, T-50, F-22 and MiG-31 would required 2 standard missiles with my Berkut at level 6). After one hit with a standard missile, those planes are almost destroyed, their life bar results very low.
Maybe the level 7 will be enough to one-shoot them...

If you want a really good multi-role, I suggest you to go for the Su-47. It is really worth the money. And before unlocking the Berkut, you'll have the Su-34 Fullback. So if you're after excellent attackers and multiroles and do not want to unlock too many planes or parts, this bottom branch is the best... Unless you are closer to another multi-role in your research tree. And you'll unlock the large fire extinguisher on this branch too...

For the record, the Su-34 handles just like the A-10 and the F-117, but it is much faster (useful when you have to go to the other end of the map) and can carry a huge payload of 4AGMs or LAGMs when upgraded to level 5... And you still can take out any low or middle-tier aircraft if necessary.

 

[Vitocorp]

GREAT news, at least for me.
New tournament coming up from 15 to 20 October.
Mirage 2000-5 Scorpio (top 1K) and Su-34 skin (top 3K) as prizes, plus some nicknames.
This means I have another week to stock fuel for next tournaments as I'm not even going to try top 3K, I don't use the Fullback and I'm not interested in another low tier plane.
The good thing: I can play TDM without worrying about ranking points and I can use it as a test ground for my aircrafts, I'll do some sorties with the Gold Falcon as well.
The great thing : they've confirmed in-game the return of prizes in the future, since there's a massive amount of stuff coming in I wonder why they don't increase tournament prizes, I mean...I wonder how many guys will compete for a copy of a Mirage and a simple skin...

 

[Flaren89]

@LJP64 It's your choise how to use them only suggestion at this point is to stock as many as you can and fire them when x3 usage per sortie is available on weekend along with activation of mercenary elite contract, it's the best to maximize everything.

For the aircrafts I'm sticking with F-15, F-117 and F-22 choises because I like F-aircrafts. For F-117 it's my favourite one, I just love it and attackers are more suited for ground raids like Stonehenge, multiroles are better for regular co-op missions. Same for fighters, so the choise there is also personal. For multirole, yes, Su-47 is better, but it's slower and a lv9 F-15 S/MTD should do the same things as a lv7 Su-47, LAGMs should also be a bit better than UGBs as they have guided shoot, more precise and lose just a bit on area radius and recharge from UGBs.
F-35B not taken in head because for me it's really ugly, small but fat, don't like it, while F-15 is a masterpiece, considering the era it was designed, it can maybe be considered the best aircraft ever done.
I'll get to the Su-branch after finish here, as there are some L parts I need there.

Anyway, these are just momentaneus thoughts as some aircrafts still have to be released and there's the chance that some are even better than Su-47 or F-22 or T-50...

 

[Louie_Schumii]

@LJP64
Anyway, these are just momentaneus thoughts as some aircrafts still have to be released and there's the chance that some are even better than Su-47 or F-22 or T-50...

I can see the YF-23 being added underneath the F-22 just after where the SAAM part and MSL Aware L is.

ATD-X will probably get added after the F-15J or possibly around the Shinden?

Gotta wonder where the superplanes will go in the tree though.

@Vitocorp I like the way you think . I might go for the Fullback skin in my Russian plane account since my Su-34 is at level 6 just for the sake of collecting items. New TDM mode should be fun though so looking forward to that!

By the way do you have experience with HPAAs in TDM? If they're more powerful than QAAMs or 4AAMs they might be worth upgrading.

 

[Vitocorp]

By the way do you have experience with HPAAs in TDM? If they're more powerful than QAAMs or 4AAMs they might be worth upgrading.

No experience in TDM but, at least in co-op (I'm using those with the Pixy) they seem to have a bit less accuracy than standard missiles so not a bad idea to use them, you trade accuracy for damage but personally I would go for QAAMs, the damage difference is minimum considering you'll use a much less accurate missile, not worth it.
Remember if you are dealing with 100HP targets you don't need to equip 150HP missiles
Damage+speed should do the job!
Someone can confirm if I log in with my data on another PS3 I will have automatically all my stuff in the new PS3?

 

[Louie_Schumii]

No experience in TDM but, at least in co-op (I'm using those with the Pixy) they seem to have a bit less accuracy than standard missiles so not a bad idea to use them, you trade accuracy for damage but personally I would go for QAAMs, the damage difference is minimum considering you'll use a much less accurate missile, not worth it.
Remember if you are dealing with 100HP targets you don't need to equip 150HP missiles
Damage+speed should do the job!
Someone can confirm if I log in with my data on another PS3 I will have automatically all my stuff in the new PS3?

The problem is in TDM you have people with Level 10 end-tier planes and Armor L .

Your game save should be tied to your account regardless of console? I haven't checked if the game stores a save file on the PS3 itself.

 

[Vitocorp]

The problem is in TDM you have people with Level 10 end-tier planes and Armor L .

Your game save should be tied to your account regardless of console? I haven't checked if the game stores a save file on the PS3 itself.

Go for QAAMs, trust me, I would be more worried about their high maneuverability than their tough armor!
For saves.
There's no savegame on the PS3 and you can't play if you're not connected, I'll try with a friend of mine account just to be sure.

 

[Bobert power]

An american that uses russian aircrafts and have one as profile image? Just lol

Anyway, why do you choose to have 2 fighters?

Fighter is the master class. I also use a Gripen and F16F DR just in case.
I prefer Russian because i must remind you the F22 is a fanboygasm with wings.

I guess you need to change your signature to #Su35masterrace now.

I'd rather keep my beloved F14 in the quote.

 

[LJP64]

Muahaha...
I entered a 6-player room yesterday. The owner was in the 1900s and there was a player around 2000. All others, including me, were around 1650.
The mission was Moscow. I decided to fly the Su-47 with its trusty UGBs. I focused on ground targets, just taking some shots at the ennemy aircraft that would be too close to me from time to time.
Guess what? S-Rank, MVP and best of all scores.
The 2000 guy left immediately after the mission, and the 1900 owner closed the room...
I don't understand why...

 

[Louie_Schumii]

Lol Moscow. Ran into the Butterfly Master there last weekend. 4 player high 1900-2000+ MR room; got shot down by the UAVs in my L10 Berkut. Those things don't give up the chase until they've taken you down!

On another note, has anyone experienced bugs on that map? Just finished a sortie there with 55 seconds on the clock. With an A-rank...?!?? I hope they patch v2.0 a.s.a.p.

Go for QAAMs, trust me, I would be more worried about their high maneuverability than their tough armor!
For saves.
There's no savegame on the PS3 and you can't play if you're not connected, I'll try with a friend of mine account just to be sure.

Yeah I suppose. My QAAMs and 4AAMs are at Level 5 already though so I thought I'd give the HPAAs a crack in the next plane only TDM. The HPAA's probably won't connect since everyone just has their afterburners on full for pretty much the whole match .

 

[Vitocorp]

I am the only idiot without even the LVL1 Berkut?
That thing is one of my all time favourite aircrafts but it's overused...it's like using the F22 in TDM, I want something more unique.
Anyway, there is a bug in the new map, if you shoot down the Tupolev bombers before any other aircraft you'll get rank A, those are the last target you should aim, same as the Gripen C disappearing in Alps air corridor (not sure if already fixed or not) and another in Pipeline destrucion (again, this should have been fixed).
Watching Area 88 right now, the first episode, things are getting interesting
Now I want the remaining two aircrafts... no gold crate since two days so far, where's my Playboy bunny thinghy and the protagonist F-5???

 

[ibnumgt1]

I am the only idiot without even the LVL1 Berkut?
That thing is one of my all time favourite aircrafts but it's overused...it's like using the F22 in TDM, I want something more unique.
Anyway, there is a bug in the new map, if you shoot down the Tupolev bombers before any other aircraft you'll get rank A, those are the last target you should aim, same as the Gripen C disappearing in Alps air corridor (not sure if already fixed or not) and another in Pipeline destrucion (again, this should have been fixed).
Watching Area 88 right now, the first episode, things are getting interesting
Now I want the remaining two aircrafts... no gold crate since two days so far, where's my Playboy bunny thinghy and the protagonist F-5???

You're not the only one, I also don't have the Bombkut. The only planes I mainly used are a lvl 1 Su-33 (Which is prety s*** IMO), a lvl 5 A-10A and also a lvl 3 F-15E.

I'm planning to get the F-15S/MTD though, is it worth my hard-earned credits?

 

[LJP64]

I am the only idiot without even the LVL1 Berkut?
That thing is one of my all time favourite aircrafts but it's overused...it's like using the F22 in TDM, I want something more unique.

I usually see more F-22s, F-35s, Rafales Vent-d'Ange and F-15C Pixy's than the Berkut... But I haven't got any of these top-tier planes.
But, hell, the Berkut was so expensive that now I need to use it for some "return on investment"...
As a bomber (with UGBs) it is really good and deadly.
However, as a fighter, it is powerful but not as efficient as a real fighter (it lacks a bit of target lock-on speed and accuracy).

This is why I mainly use it in missions like Pipeline Destruction, Alpine Corridor, Factory Assault and Moscow, where there are plenty of clustered ground targets which make this aircraft just perfect. And you can still take almost any fighter out of the sky.

I need something to replace my Zipang (it's way too fragile and can't take much damage).
I'm thinking about the Shinden, as it's the one that will need the least time for me to unlock. Do you guys think it's worth the "investment" ?

Now I want the remaining two aircrafts... no gold crate since two days so far, where's my Playboy bunny thinghy and the protagonist F-5???

I have 3 by now: the F-14, the AV-8B and the A-10. I'm still after the F-5 though.
Incredible, 3 random drops in a week...
I've seen the scores of the first 1,000 guys, no need to try to get the F-20 (), this will not be possible, even if I burn all my stocked fuel.

 

[Paulie]

@ibnumgt1 the F-15S MTD is a very powerful jet when equipped with LAGM, 90% of MVP's I've been seeing lately are them.

 

[Flaren89]

@ibnumgt1 the F-15S MTD is a very powerful jet when equipped with LAGM, 90% of MVP's I've been seeing lately are them.

This is one of the reasons I'll get it asap other the fact that is a magnificent aircraft on the real world. Its LAGMs lack on radius and a bit power from Su-47's UGBs, but they have the good thing that have tracking aim, so you can decide where to fire them without being directly on the line of your target as UGBs need to be dropped.

I tried today SODs on F-117 instead of GPBs... I don't know which is worst...
GPBs have a very bad tracking aim system and requires to be close to the target (almost same distance as regular missles).
SODs have a very good radius damage but it's optimized only if you target the middle target in an area with lot of buildings, which are best to be in the same line of your to maximise damage... They can be shoot from long distance, but they are so slow that you actually can pass targets and main bomb still have to drop mini-bombs.

For UGBs vs FAEBs (which first are theorically worst than seconds, but can be upgraded directly to be as strong as FAEBs or even better) I want to see if they put something to upgrade the seconds, as at the moment they are completely missing. Maybe they are still deciding what upgrade put to improve them. Area would be almost useless with lv5 FAEBs and cannot improve damage or recharge speed as there are already regular non-specific bomb upgrades that does that. Maybe a propellent upgrade to make them fly even further longer?

 

[LJP64]

@Flaren89, UGBs unleash a great deal of damage once upgraded. Mine are Level 3 now, and their blast is great for wiping a whole area off... Only the toughest targets will need a missile to finish the job, but all in all they are very useful.

 

[Flaren89]

@LJP64 Look this video, lv6 F-15 S/MTD with lv3 LAGMs, in the description the parts he used.

 

[Louie_Schumii]

I wonder how useful levelled up GPBs will be on the Naval TDM. We might see a few planes that have them as a sp. weapon option start to be used again but I honestly can't see planes other than the MTD and the Berkut in higher MR rooms using the LAGM and UGB. The Su-34 and F-117 might become a little more common during the event thanks to their damage bonus on fixed targets?

 

[Flaren89]

@Louie_Schumii That's because only them got LAGMs and UGBs.
- ASF-X Shinden II got GPBs (which I already reported their aiming problem) and LASMs which are missing specific upgrade parts for them (LAGMs got increased area upgrade);
- F-35B got GPBs (again) and 4AGMs (which don't have area damage);
- Rafale M got LASMs and SODs (these one as I also reported, are hard to use on their maximum potential due to the line dispersion and slow speed);
- ASF-X -Ridgebacks- got only LASMs;
- ADFX-01 Morgan got MPBMs (need to ask?);
- F-15 S/MTD -Stripes- got only FAEBs;
- Rafale M -Vent d'Ange- got only LASMs;
- F-16F -Desert Rock- got GPBs and SODs;
- F/A-18F -Black Hornet- is new and got only LASMs anyway;
- Attackers like F-117, Su-34, A-10 (got FAEBs) and F-2 are probably discarded due to their lack on speed, mobility and air-to-air damage, which are needed in co-op missions with both kinds of targets.

 

[Bobert power]

Why......
Why do i think i can retire the F14, but i can't officially push myself to do so? I've flown 400+ sorties with it, each one i fell in love even more with it. I just can't retire it at level 8 considering its capabilities. I've had ups and downs with it. I nearly came in the top 1000 in the 2nd TDM and Wardog tournaments with it! I think it's time to bring her back for good!👍

 

[LJP64]

@LJP64 Look this video, lv6 F-15 S/MTD with lv3 LAGMs, in the description the parts he used.

Mmmh... The F-15 SMTD is too far away in my research tree. It'll take ages to unlock and upgrade it.

I'll keep the Berkut and Fullback for a while. They cost me too much to be removed from service now...
And I have to confess that the Berkut has always been one of my favorite in previous AC episodes...

 

[actros011]

I got back from college and saw that they added mission in Croatia:tup:, but it's for multirole and my
Rafale is still too weak for that. I'll play it anyway with T-50, who cares, enemies in the air drop like
flies, those on the ground are tough little bastards but it doesn't matter.
Also this Moscow mission is cool.

 

[Flaren89]

Mmmh... The F-15 SMTD is too far away in my research tree. It'll take ages to unlock and upgrade it.

I'll keep the Berkut and Fullback for a while. They cost me too much to be removed from service now...
And I have to confess that the Berkut has always been one of my favorite in previous AC episodes...

Su-47 it's a little better than F-15 S/MTD, just a little slower. And UGBs don't have aim but got higher radius and recharge speed (and maybe damage). So at the end it's only a matter of what you like more.
There's to say that the branch that bring to F-15 S/MTD give nice M and L parts. But at the end, the aim of everybody it's to unlock everything, and upgrade just the 3-4 aircrafts you need.

 

[Flaren89]

Be carefull because as stated on latest notifications, there will be a PSN maintenance in next days.

Because of that, they also decided to extend both Area 88 things.

 

[RACECAR]

Now that my speech homework is complete, its time to SORTIE. ALL THE THINGS!!

 

[Paulie]

The max level for a special weapon is level 5 isn't it? My 4AGM missiles are on level 4, as soon as they reach 5 I'm moving on to acquiring the Su-47.

 

[Vitocorp]

The max level for a special weapon is level 5 isn't it? My 4AGM missiles are on level 4, as soon as they reach 5 I'm moving on to acquiring the Su-47.

yes, the max is LVL 5 for sp weapons

 

[Flaren89]

Today I had a nice surprise: there is a rare special emergency sortie (the intermission with lot of TGT/SP targets) inside the Moscow co-op. This is the "Butterfly master" the one that have anti-missles drones flying near him. If someone kills him (and so the emergency sortie is successfull) you will have a special medal in the mission summary which gives 10.000 credits (so to everybody), still have to know if you get it in any way or just if the killer must be one of your team.

 

[ibnumgt1]

Today I had a nice surprise: there is a rare special emergency sortie (the intermission with lot of TGT/SP targets) inside the Moscow co-op. This is the "Butterfly master" the one that have anti-missles drones flying near him. If someone kills him (and so the emergency sortie is successfull) you will have a special medal in the mission summary which gives 10.000 credits (so to everybody), still have to know if you get it in any way or just if the killer must be one of your team.

Interesting, can you show a picture of the medal? I'm curious to know.