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Hey jujiro, can you suggest how can i reduce a bit of understeering with your tune? Thanks
on Hill corner, if you always lose your tail go through it at higher gear to reduce oversteer. if you understeer wide onto grass on exit, change down to lower gear to rotate the car inward. if you experience both, change down a gear or two to induce oversteer to turn into that corner and as soon as your car turned, quickly change up a gear or two to stabilise your car. i often use left foot brake while i apply throttle and what it does is gives front end more brake bias since your rear driving wheel has less brake because your giving throttle so you can decelerate without rear stepping out.
JujiroMatsuda: 9271795see what happens when you share your setups? everyones into 12s & 13s, ahead of me lol
on serious note, all top 10 drivers arent seem to be using rear wings, except doodle (because he is using my setup). some are just using front aero kit, like Takeuchi. some are using not all. my belief was that since rear wing doesnt add any PP and rear downforce stabilises your car and increases your traction and AIR IS FREE TO USE - so to me its too stupid not to take advantage of.
if you feel that your car has more understeer than you like you can always add little bit of ballast at the back to eliminate it easily and allocate freed up PP to increase your hp. but i personally prefer this setup because of its predictable handling, with slight understeer, i can throw the car around on corners really aggressively and still be in control and since a mid-fielder like me could get into top 50 surely the setup must be damn good!
custom wheels seem to be a good thing since they fixed the bug - i stayed away from custom wheels...when i installed them on my mclaren f1 it was disaster, 630hp on 235/45 skinny back wheels - not good! but they fixed that bug so you dont lose any tyre width now. i see Takeuchi did install custom wheels now, +1 inch by the looks of it and he has gone more than a second faster. might not make you noticeably quicker but certainly wont make you any slower for sure.
Hey jujiro, can you suggest how can i reduce a bit of understeering with your tune? Thanks
The reason none of the top drivers save one have a wing less car is due the speed reduction, PD programed in drag into the wings in gt6. It does affect your top speed and to some degree acceleration now.
we wont know exactly how much it affects cars untill PD guves us the speed test tracks and we can get dead on accurate times for distances. I know that when Bandit tested my VW tune he lost mist than a second with the wing.
basically 2 ways i think - reduce rear downforce or put some weight at the back.
id put 10-20kg ballast weight at the very back and change spring rate accordingly, 7.30/8.70.
i recommend the weight solution, more weight at the back makes car more oversteer and at same time increases the rear traction also.
@JujiroMatsuda I'm not sure if they increased the drag amount, but unlike gt5 where it only really affected the top speed it does affect acceleration in gt6.
I noticed this when doing some tune testing on deep forest coming out of the last corner with wing I could exit at 165 km/h and hit the start/fish at 203 km/h with out a wing I could exit at 160 km/h but hit the start/ finish line at 210 km/h.
Breaking point speed on strait
Wing 215 km/h
No wing 225 km/h
The amount it down force had little effect,
Aero of 5 TS on strait was 218 km/h, force of 20 TS was 215 km/h
Yep I agree - started with the Acura '91 I won but could only get Bronze after multiple laps, spins, etc. Bought a Type R '02 which was heavier and had less power but got Silver on 1st lap & smashed (for me) Gold a couple of laps later by being able to maintain cornering speeds better! Now to try one of these set-ups posted to see how fast I can go with my DS3...The same reasoning for not adding weight can be used for the wing. With so many corners you want maximum corner speed and traction.
Even if you lose 10kph top speed, it makes very little difference (.1s a lap at most) and is well compensated throughout the rest of the lap.
I did an experiment with this seasonal. Seeing that the NSX is one of my favorite cars, I have all 16 of the stock versions including the Type S, Type S Zero, and Type R models.
This is more of a test drive comparing the different models more than anything else. Basically the test was to see how far up the PP ladder I had to go in order to achieve the gold prize.
All cars are run completely stock with no oil changes or additions. SRF off, bumper cam/cockpit cam (where applicable). ABS 1, MT, CS tires (per regulation), TCS and all other settings off.
When I started this, Ascari was basically new to me. Not sure of the total number of laps run prior to attempting this Seasonal, but they were mainly in career mode or some practice runs. It wasn't turning out to be one of my favorite tracks, but after running 60-70 laps during this Seasonal, it's become one of my favorites.
I gave myself 10 laps in each car to set my best time. Here are the best laps for each car:
- NSX '90 / PP 439 / 2:42.516
- NSX '93 / PP 439 / 2:40.694
- NSX '95 / PP 439 / 2:38.865
At this point I forgot that the NSX '91 was actually listed under 'Acura' not Honda. It actually has lower PP than the first three, but I'll post my time anyway. Apparently I was learning the track as the '91 is slower in comparison, but my time was faster except for the NSX '95:
- NSX '91 / PP 433 / 2:39.853
And back in order:
- NSX '97 / PP 443 / 2:36.383
- NSX '99 / PP 443 / 2:35.570
And the car that got me the gold:
- NSX Type S '97 / PP 445 / 2:32.937
Not sure what any of this means, but I got the gold, 7th car up the list. Thought I would have to get to the Type R's before getting the gold.
A little late to the party but I used @Motor City Hami 's tune for a 2:20.08 using only ABS1 and no other aids.
A little late to the party but I used @Motor City Hami 's tune for a 2:20.08 using only ABS1 and no other aids.
I tried the tune but I'm still faster completely stock. Not sure why that is, but even after 10 laps with the tune my times are consistently 4 seconds slower. Maybe it's all of the sequential shifting.
Tuning makes every car faster, even if it's just transmission, adding "free" drivetrain parts, and LSD tuning. Being close to the PP limit means you can't take advantage of the preferred power upgrades which limits the improvements due to tuning but you are always faster with tuning.Actually, if there is a car that needs little tuning is the NSX R '02 in these tyres.
Improved brakes, had to soften it to 4/4. Suspension, and I'm running it pretty soft, and little camber to improve traction. Only thing I see fitting to improve is gearing and wing, if you need it. Weight, but then had to limit power.
It has a perfect balance (not 50/50, but as stated before that's actually good in this case) and is close to the pp limit, so it's not that odd to be more comfortable and faster on a stock car than on a tweaked one.
Tuning makes every car faster, even if it's just transmission, adding "free" drivetrain parts, and LSD tuning. Being close to the PP limit means you can't take advantage of the preferred power upgrades which limits the improvements due to tuning but you are always faster with tuning.
Sure, that why I do it, but in this case it's not surprising some people get better results with a "smother" stock ride.
improved by 0.004s! yay!lol
edit: spent over 2 hours just on Rafael, only once i managed to get half a car length of Takeuchis ghost. stress surpassed enjoyment already long time ago, i ended up hating the track, hating the car, my body and mind absolutely refusing to drive any longer. i gave it a try to improve but i cannot possibly go any faster.
i need a tutor teach me how to negotiate rafael, eu-rouge...
By chance does anyone know the approximate number of total entries for this seasonal?
about half a billion i think so im damn sooo good to be bloody 89th in the world!lol