Africa, the forgotten continent?

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Africa!

  • Yes, I want to help them!

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  • Meh!

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  • No. I'm done.

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Johnnypenso
Boko Haram overtakes ISIS as world's deadliest terror group, report says

I think there's a sort of competition, sick as it is, going on between Boko Haram, El Queda and ISIS. Boko is now in the lead and I think they wake up every morning, click on their internet favourites to find out what ISIS has done recently, and the set about their business of killing people. I see no solution for people this sick and depraved other than life in prison or death.
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So now it has just (possibly) become a competition to see who can kill the most people? Sickening. And though we don't often fully agree on these threads, I fully agree there with your only solutions. It seems not only the right one but also the only one that will keep the rest of humanity safe. (Maybe not death but still)
 
Johnnypenso
Boko Haram overtakes ISIS as world's deadliest terror group, report says

I think there's a sort of competition, sick as it is, going on between Boko Haram, El Queda and ISIS. Boko is now in the lead and I think they wake up every morning, click on their internet favourites to find out what ISIS has done recently, and the set about their business of killing people. I see no solution for people this sick and depraved other than life in prison or death.
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I'm not sure it's a direct competition but I'm certain that each group is observing and learning from the tactics of others.

On the subject of the Mali siege; US special forces are part of the force that have stormed the building. The US say there has been no direct request for assistance but that US Africa Command will make a statement shortly. With there being US citizens amongst the prisoners it wouldn't surprise me to find that the US game plan allows their SF to act autonomously with local enforcement in a situation like this.
 
TenEightyOne
I'm not sure it's a direct competition but I'm certain that each group is observing and learning from the tactics of others.

On the subject of the Mali siege; US special forces are part of the force that have stormed the building. The US say there has been no direct request for assistance but that US Africa Command will make a statement shortly. With there being US citizens amongst the prisoners it wouldn't surprise me to find that the US game plan allows their SF to act autonomously with local enforcement in a situation like this.
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Must be nice to have that kind of power even if it means your certain death, but then again that's why you have the power (you means they as in SF troops and command).
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Must be nice to have that kind of power even if it means your certain death, but then again that's why you have the power (you means they as in SF troops and command).
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Apparently they were "off-duty". Presumably that means not an American responsibility... :D
 
Europe came saw and conquered most of the world. Then someone decided that it wasn't right that white folks were in charge of all these places. So the white folks were killed, & or just up & left. Thus creating the opening the locals to take charge of their lands. Well, it seems they aren't doing that fine of a job. It would seem that Africa is like that old home that just keeps eating money. Sooner or later you just have to write it off, & walk away. Which it looks as if a large part of it's people are doing. They are now coming to colonize Europe.
 
Well yeah all that inbreeding can cause some insane kings. Can't have the royals marry any commoners, what will the neighbors say? No sub-sahara Africa is just a pit of corruption, meanness, & suffering.
 
N0t_L3fty
Well yeah all that inbreeding can cause some insane kings. Can't have the royals marry any commoners, what will the neighbors say? No sub-sahara Africa is just a pit of corruption, meanness, & suffering.
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Yeah, I'm sticking with just like Europe. You might want to read up on European history if you think otherwise. Europe has had it's fair share of genocides, civil wars, and power hungry tyrants.
 
150000 thousand people die a day according to google stats.
I wonder why the focus is in Jerusalem / Israel

@Johnnypenso

Sahih al bukhari 2977
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror.

Can islam really take over the world through peace as claimed, or is the sword an easier way through terror?

 
DCP
150000 thousand people die a day according to google stats.
I wonder why the focus is in Jerusalem / Israel

@Johnnypenso

Sahih al bukhari 2977
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror.

Can islam really take over the world through peace as claimed, or is the sword an easier way through terror?

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By peace or terror, where do you get the thought Islam is taking over the world? Quran puts itself above state and doesn't know what humanity is. I can assure you, Muslims living in the west have the same idea about humanity as non-Muslims. I'm not worried, we just have to be less political correct.
 
The problem with Africa is lack of infrastructure to take care of their own. The more rural a country, the harder it is to control(not in a bad way, but to police the people in to not killing each other) and a lack of proper oversight. The same things that make Africa beautiful make it hard for it to rise as a true power. When I say Africa I mean the overall contingent as I know places like South Africa are very nice places to live.
 
HELLAFLUSH240SX
The problem with Africa is lack of infrastructure to take care of their own. The more rural a country, the harder it is to control(not in a bad way, but to police the people in to not killing each other) and a lack of proper oversight. The same things that make Africa beautiful make it hard for it to rise as a true power. When I say Africa I mean the overall contingent as I know places like South Africa are very nice places to live.
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Um no the problem with Africa is as I have stated.. too much government meddling in the economy which in turn is fuels a lot of the corruption plaguing the contininent.
 
A2K78
Um no the problem with Africa is as I have stated.. too much government meddling in the economy which in turn is fuels a lot of the corruption plaguing the contininent.
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no.... you're both wrong...



It's most definitely a mix of both. The government can get away with doing anything in the baron wasteland that they control, and no surrounding neighbors to watch/hear what happens....
 
A2K78
Um no the problem with Africa is as I have stated.. too much government meddling in the economy which in turn is fuels a lot of the corruption plaguing the contininent.
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That may play a part but what you say reeks of anti regulation though. It may be a part but it's not the full story. Tree'd by @Swagger897 but he has a great point and has jointed both our ideas to form a more full idea of the problem. There are many factors not just one.
 
A2K78
Um no the problem with Africa is as I have stated.. too much government meddling in the economy which in turn is fuels a lot of the corruption plaguing the contininent.
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That's a hell of a generalisation for a continent of over 1 billion people and over 50 countries (not including self-declared tribal lands). You can definitely see corruption in one form or another in every level of society or business in every part of the world; I'm sure that you can do better than "corruption is a plague therefore Africa's bad" statement.
 
Given that Africa, sub-saharan non-Arabic Africa at least, is a 'forgotten' continent, the question is why? Or, why don't we do something about what happens there?

If the political doctrine is "we liberate people living under oppressive reigmes" e.g. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, then why not in other places? It seems rather unfair to apply the doctrine in one area but not another. Even moving aside to yet another continent, whilst the nuclear inspectors were finding duck egg in Iraq back in 2001/02, North Korea, with its proven nuclear arsenal, remained uninvaded.

But back to Africa. It would be incredibly easy to be an armchair pundit and say "because there are no natural resources and/or therefore nothing to gain" and I would be lying if I thought that wasn't at least one reason. But can anyone offer any depth or expansion on it?

Or another viewpoint entirely, perhaps. Lest we forget that many of the modern borders and states in Africa are the result of the great powers of the time; France, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and even the good ol' US of A, whose endorsed-by-President Monroe American Colonization Society gave us Liberia. Even the USA had an African colony.
 
Well TenEightyOne I'm not quite sure which part of my comment you take exception to. The inbreeding of the European royal families is well documented. Africa as a pit of misery? Seems as if a lot of the residents are voting with their feet.
 
N0t_L3fty
The inbreeding of the European royal families is well documented.
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In the times you must be speaking of the royal families wouldn't have been seen as any exception. I'm not sure you can show any greater incidence of mental or physical abnormality amongst the royals from that practice.

N0t_L3fty
Africa as a pit of misery? Seems as if a lot of the residents are voting with their feet.
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Most African migrants stay in Africa - that's how economic migration works. That also means that some (Cheick Diallo is a good example) go outside Africa to look for work. Not all emigrants are packed into boats on Fox, in fact a very low percentage of them are.

Your "pit of misery" comment is bollocks. Perhaps you mistakenly think that Africa is all ramshackle huts and slums? If so then you'd have a pretty good idea of where the misery lies but then you'd have to extend your concern to South America and Asia - the same lifestyles and social problems can be found there, after all.

My guess is that you have little idea of the immense diversity across Africa or how the enormous wealth of some areas affects the politics. I'd definitely place a bet that you've never been there.
 
The Hapsburgs jaw would argue the physical & Charles II of Spain the mental. Yes it was considered normal at the time. I am not trying to start an conflict over history.
No I have never been to the Africa, & it isn't high on the list of places to visit. I have worked with several nurses from different countries in Africa. Several work to collect equipment & supplies to ship to their home countries, but they are not going to travel with the supplies. Since I live in fly over country in the USA my exposure to African citizens is rather limited. So it is possible my views are tinted from the few I have interacted with.
Oh yes I do realize that it isn't a 1930's Tarzan show. But since the late 60's when I started to notice the news there has always been conflicts in Africa. Of course there are conflicts everywhere.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/22/africa/kenya-bus-attack-al-shabaab-muslim-christians/index.html
Their M.O. is a tried and terrifying one: Launch a raid, single out Christians, and then spray them with bullets. But when Al-Shabaab militants ambushed a bus Monday, things didn't go according to plan. A group of Kenyan Muslims shielded the Christian passengers and told the attackers they were prepared to die together. The Muslim passengers, who were mostly women, told the Islamic militants to kill them all or leave them alone, witnesses said.
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N0t_L3fty
The Hapsburgs jaw would argue the physical & Charles II of Spain the mental. Yes it was considered normal at the time. I am not trying to start an conflict over history.
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Basically all the things you describe will have occurred in your own in-bred ancestral lineage too. And mine, for that matter.

Johnnypenso
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/22/africa/kenya-bus-attack-al-shabaab-muslim-christians/index.html
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Fascinating story, where's @KSaiyu when you need him? :)
 
Mid-air explosion blows hole in side of Somali passenger plane.

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Two passengers have been injured in an explosion that blew a hole in the fuselage of a commercial plane taking off from Somalia's capital Mogadishu.

There was no immediate explanation of the explosion from the airline or Somali government officials.

"Daallo airline was en route to Djibouti but it landed shortly after it took off [from Aden Adde Airport]," said Mohamed Hussein, an agent for the flight's operator.

"A fire exploded and two passengers were slightly wounded."

Further reports state that 1 person has been suck out of the airplane.
 

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