Alfa Romeo Giulia 2016

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[alonsof1fan91]

I believe everything is shared now - but I'm also led to believe that Skoda itself designs all the Volkswagen Group engines below 1400cc. Just as Audi handles everything about 3 litres, as far as I'm aware.

2.0 TDI => No idea, i guess Vw develops this engines platform and each user (Audi or Skoda f.e) adds its own stuff
2.0 TFSi => The new one coming with the A4 is developed by Audi I guess
3.0 TFSi/TDI => Audi
4.0 V8 TFSi => Porsche
V8 TDI => Audi
W12 => Audi

 

[FT-1]

Apparently the Giulia has a top speed of 200mph/321km/h

 

[homeforsummer]

Apparently the Giulia has a top speed of 200mph/321km/h

Impressive, but not unexpected for a 500bhp car. I'd be surprised if a C63 couldn't top 200 if derestricted either.

 

[05XR8]

Hans Stuck did 197mph in an M6 on the Autobahnen in traffic. Im sure those speeds are attainable in cars like these.

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Hans Stuck did 197mph in an M6 on the Autobahnen in traffic. Im sure those speeds are attainable in cars like these.

And this car especially, considering it weighs 1.5 tonnes.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

And this car especially, considering it weighs 1.5 tonnes.

Weight has almost nothing to do with top speed.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

And this car especially, considering it weighs 1.5 tonnes.

Here's the long answer:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/does-a-lighter-car-go-faster-top-speed.249626/#post-6931424

 

[GranTurismo guy]

Weight has almost nothing to do with top speed.

Wow, I didn't know that.

 

[Neddo]

Base version

render

 

[05XR8]

We no want no steenken base version.

 

[FT-1]

Base version

render

You should have called it the standard car because it has a black interior!

Ok, I'll grab my coat.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

You should have called it the standard car because it has a black interior!

Ok, I'll grab my coat.

Yeah, you deserve the coat for that one.

Also, yeah, we could do without a "steenken base version" (quoting @05XR8 on this, haha ), but those are the ones who sell and bring the most income to their respective companies. Sure, having nothing but the Quadri would be fun for adrenaline/driving enjoyment purposes, but as it is, we have to talk about the less fun versions at some point... So that we can concern ourselves over the design looking tamer due to the lack of sporty touches.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Wow, that render is so much prettier than the QV. It shows that the Giulia really is a gorgeous shape, but that adding a load of go fast bits and vents can quickly ruin a car's pretty lines. If I was in a situation to do so, I'd be extremely tempted to buy a QV and then swap the bodykit with someone who owns a base model. It wouldn't help performance but I can't imagine you'd notice it on the road and it would look so much nicer.

 

[05XR8]

Seeing the two(three) different grills, the QV "public park" fencing or that render with the honeycomb lower grill and ice tray Alfa grill. doesnt leave to many options to try horizontal or vertical slats. I'd like to see how those look on both cars.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

So. Much. Carbon. Fiber.

 

[mustafur]

This car makes the 159 seem like a cheap Econobox.

 

[CSMDuty11]

I'm thinking it is just because it is the Interior of the QV.


But i have a feeling that the Base-model Giulia will make it look like an... expensive econobox i guess.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Alfa needs to make something sporty that us broke people can afford.

 

[mustafur]

lol if you think this will be cheap, this looks like it will cost way more then the 159 as a base model.

 

[CodeRedR51]

lol if you think this will be cheap, this looks like it will cost way more then the 159 as a base model.

That's my point. I want this car but it's out of my price range. Hence why I want something "sporty us broke people can afford".

 

[mustafur]

Alfa has never really been a cheap brand, it kind of occupied the niche luxury market like Volvo for example, this though seems like they are pushing it up towards the Germans.

 

[CodeRedR51]

A 200hp FWD hot hatch would suit me just fine. I just want something...

 

[AudiMan2011]

A 200hp FWD hot hatch would suit me just fine. I just want something...

Back in 2013, I read that Alfa were to completely drop FWD models for RWD.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...p-front-drive-hatches-for-rear-drive-saloons/

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

So, the rear seats of QV are not meant for kids, knowing how they like to kick the front seats..

 

[homeforsummer]

Alfa has never really been a cheap brand, it kind of occupied the niche luxury market like Volvo for example, this though seems like they are pushing it up towards the Germans.

Though it's worth mentioning that Alfa has long been more affordable than the German stuff. Back when the 147 and 156 were around, they were generally a couple of grand cheaper (in the UK at least) than the equivalent A4/3-Series, and that largely continued with subsequent models.

That may well change with the Giulia, though in theory, the Giulia will also do more to justify its price.

Back in 2013, I read that Alfa were to completely drop FWD models for RWD.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-ne...p-front-drive-hatches-for-rear-drive-saloons/

I remember reading that too, though I'd be surprised if they drop FWD entirely, particularly on small hatchbacks. Until the last couple of years, the Mito was selling fairly strongly and given it shares a platform and engines with other Fiat group cars, I can't imagine it's too expensive to produce. Small, FWD cars are good bread-and-butter for car manufacturers, at least in Europe.

 

[hasslemoff]

I remember reading that too, though I'd be surprised if they drop FWD entirely, particularly on small hatchbacks. Until the last couple of years, the Mito was selling fairly strongly and given it shares a platform and engines with other Fiat group cars, I can't imagine it's too expensive to produce. Small, FWD cars are good bread-and-butter for car manufacturers, at least in Europe.

The Mito is suppose to die with no successor by the end of 2017 and also the FWD Giulietta. [/B]http://blog.caranddriver.com/alfa-r...cts-by-2018-semi-autonomy-from-fiat-chrysler/. There is also a statement somewhere from Marchionne that the Mito is going and FWD as Alfa goes RWD and AWD.

FCA group has the small hatch FWD section cover'd and its great to see Alfa going back to RWD in all its sections.

 

[homeforsummer]

FCA group has the small hatch FWD section cover'd and its great to see Alfa going back to RWD in all its sections.

The Mito is comfortably the most convincing supermini in FCA's repertoire, so it'd be a shame to see that one go.

I agree that it's great seeing Alfa experimenting with RWD again, but I've never been one to dismiss the brand's front-drive models - its very first FWD, the Alfasud, is still regarded as one of the best-handling FWDs ever made, and it's built some great FWD cars since, as well.

I suppose what concerns me most is that Alfa seems to be edging out its more affordable models. Again, since the 'Sud, the brand has always had a level of accessibility despite its heritage. Even if Alfa starts building truly great cars again, it'd be a shame to see them move a step away from being accessible.

That, and I'm highly skeptical of Marchionne's comments that Alfa will be building 400k cars by 2018, up from 74k today, if it's dropping cars like the Mito and Giulietta which sit in the two highest-volume segments in Europe.

Though I suppose they're planning an SUV, which will probably do half that volume on its own in the US and China.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Also, I'll be surprised if they won't send one to tuners, as it seems to be trendy thing to do these days.. Nissan did it with GT-R, Mazda did it with ND, Ford did it with Mustang..

 

[hasslemoff]

The Mito is comfortably the most convincing supermini in FCA's repertoire, so it'd be a shame to see that one go.

I agree that it's great seeing Alfa experimenting with RWD again, but I've never been one to dismiss the brand's front-drive models - its very first FWD, the Alfasud, is still regarded as one of the best-handling FWDs ever made, and it's built some great FWD cars since, as well.

I suppose what concerns me most is that Alfa seems to be edging out its more affordable models. Again, since the 'Sud, the brand has always had a level of accessibility despite its heritage. Even if Alfa starts building truly great cars again, it'd be a shame to see them move a step away from being accessible.

That, and I'm highly skeptical of Marchionne's comments that Alfa will be building 400k cars by 2018, up from 74k today, if it's dropping cars like the Mito and Giulietta which sit in the two highest-volume segments in Europe.

Though I suppose they're planning an SUV, which will probably do half that volume on its own in the US and China.

I agree that they still make good FWD cars and there is plans for a Giulietta replacement but RWD (AWD dont know).
I hope that they keep the cars in the same pricing bracket they are in, they need to sell units to stay alive and keep the plans on track, if the standard Giulia is priced the same as BMW at launch what would most people choose ?, if its priced a few thousand cheaper that would get people walking into the showrooms.
The QV can keep its high price as 90% of Giulia buyers will not be able to afford the QV.

Marchionne has made a lot of comments regarding Alfa over the last year even the possibility of going back into F1 (they did get there badge on the Ferrari this year ), his words were "you never know" and as you know its all about producing chatter and interest in the brand again the same way only the QV version has been shown at the anniversary and the opening of the museum.

Also, I'll be surprised if they won't send one to tuners, as it seems to be trendy thing to do these days.. Nissan did it with GT-R, Mazda did it with ND, Ford did it with Mustang..

Who would you want tuning your car over Ferrari, Maserati and Alfa ? for the QV.

Apart from Carrozzeria Touring, they can tune a Alfa 👍