Aliens

[BobK]

I have some plasma right here in my room, and it's certainly glowing. Does that mean I can expect earthquakes and tornadoes? I'll grant you that in the next couple months there will likely be electrical storms in the area, just like there are every year, but I somehow don't think they'd be related to my fluorescent light here.

 

[Jawsers]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110321/music_nm/us_sammyhagar_aliens

I bet the aliens got a 404 error when they tried to connect to his brain.

 

[Dotini]

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/201...ealand-russia-nasa-iss-footage-photos-videos/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jp-VfxfVNA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1 < Very interesting!

An assortment of photos and videos from Russia, New Zealand and ISS showing odd blue lights - undoubtedly plasma.

The following videos are superb examples of "earthquake lights" and lightning strokes occurring with the 7.1 earthquake of this morning, April 7, 2011. See between the 9 and 20 second mark in either video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUYHfuMOCko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgooTL9hEc0

Edit: A CME to go with it all.
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2...3_cor2_256.mpg

 

[Jawsers]

Edit: A CME to go with it all.

Hahaha, 404.


Also please refrain from including CME with earthquake lights. Two completely different things.

 

[Dotini]

Hahaha, 404.


Also please refrain from including CME with earthquake lights. Two completely different things.

A 404 error indicates "page not found". Although you first found it (the connection between CME's and earthquakes) here on this page, I found it both in nature and in the literature of physics, so I'm several steps ahead of you. Both CME's and earthquake lights are plasma, and are historically found in close association with one another. Research by NASA reinforces my case. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/27jul_spacequakes/

If you weren't so boringly intent on trolling your fellow man, you might wish to join him in the spirit of free and open inquiry, exploration and discovery.

 

[Grayfox]

UFOs are fake.

No Aliens that have masted space travel would just come to hover around and then wiss off.

Unless their hostile, but all these UFOs are all on the same basic design,

Spinning disc shaped things that are allways out of focus which are piloted by gray beings with black elliptical eyes.

 

[Jawsers]

Moved post to a more relevant thread.

 

[Ryou]

Saw this yesterday. Pretty strange. http://www.examiner.com/ufo-in-national/diamond-shaped-ufo-seen-after-electric-blue-flash

 

[lukey2985]

i watched this thing on youtube where this guy said that the universe expands as we think about it. something to do with consesness

 

[Alex p.]

i watched this thing on youtube where this guy said that the universe expands as we think about it. something to do with consesness

Yep, very intersting concept. Scientists around the world proved for several times that consciousness does in fact manipulate matter. Under observance (thorugh an electro-mikroscop for exapmle) tiny particles ALWAYS behave differently, than not being observed (by a human). Absolutely fascinating stuff.

 

[Touring Mars]

Yep, very intersting concept. Scientists around the world proved for several times that consciousness does in fact manipulate matter. Under observance (thorugh an electro-mikroscop for exapmle) tiny particles ALWAYS behave differently, than not being observed (by a human). Absolutely fascinating stuff.

[citations needed]

If a particle is not observed, how can anything be said about how it is behaving, and therefore how can it be said that it behaves differently to a particle that is being observed?

 

[nine4t4]

Apologies, if I'm repeating things. But life (non-terrestrial) is guaranteed, do the degree that terrestrial life is a sure thing.

The hubble deep field array illustrates that fact. The photo is not of stars, but galaxies. Hold a pin at arms length, and the head can block-out the entire field.

The Drake equation also implies that it's almost certain that there is life out there. Assuming that we are the only life in the Milky Way, there are billions of galaxies. Even if life happens only once in a galaxy, it's going to happen a billion times across the universe.

So assuming there are billions of civilizations out there, we can still feel alone. Very alone. The distances are so large that even traveling at the speed of light, there is little chance that we'd meet up.

Imagine throwing a dart down a football field and trying to target a specific grass blade. Now make that field a sphere. 360 in 3 dimensions. And then make the sphere bigger than you can throw, by 13 billion light years.

We may be the toddlers of the universe.

The idea of an omnipotent creator doesn't change anything. If you actually believe in a god that is all capable, why wouldn't they also screw around and see what sticks to the wall. A billion galaxies and you think "god" would only do it once? Isn't pride a sin?

 

[Alex p.]

[citations needed]

If a particle is not observed, how can anything be said about how it is behaving, and therefore how can it be said that it behaves differently to a particle that is being observed?

I knew this question would come.

Thing is, there are two modes of observation. 1:Through a device=filming the particle-later on you watch the footage. 2:Through consciousness-by a human being-live-in real time.(But also through a device of course like an electro microscope.)

 

[Grayfox]

i watched this thing on youtube where this guy said that the universe expands as we think about it. something to do with consesness

I heard on the Discovery Channel, that the universe growth is speeding up rather than slowing down after the big bang.

But a more important question is what caused the big bang.

Isn't pride a sin?

I think it is the 7th deadly sin.
(correct me if i am wrong i am not 100% sure.)

 

[Tesla]

I knew this question would come.

Thing is, there are two modes of observation. 1:Through a device=filming the particle-later on you watch the footage. 2:Through consciousness-by a human being-live-in real time.(But also through a device of course like an electro microscope.)

But simply recording its' movements with film will effect its' movement, making the act of filming it obselete. The only way you can "see" something is to reflect light off of it. That would change its' properties slightly.

I think it is the 7th deadly sin.
(correct me if i am wrong i am not 100% sure.)

I (and Wikipedia) say that it's the first. I'm not sure the order matters much anyway.

[citations needed]
If a particle is not observed, how can anything be said about how it is behaving, and therefore how can it be said that it behaves differently to a particle that is being observed?

"It is meaningless to ascribe any properties or even existence to anything that has not been measured." - Quantum Physics:Illusion Or Reality?
You can only guess where and what something is doing without observing it. Again, the only way you can "see" something is to reflect light off of it. That would change its' properties slightly.

 

[Alex p.]

But simply recording its' movements with film will effect its' movement, making the act of filming it obselete. The only way you can "see" something is to reflect light off of it. That would change its' properties slightly.

Interesting.

I'll just quote sth. out of a scientific magazine I read, of course it's in German, so I gotta translate, forgive certain mistakes:

"Why a quantum-zeno-effect does not let water boil:
Can a houswife stop water from being boiled, by simply observing it all the time? Yes-if the pot is small enough. In the world of quantums, permanent observing, watching can alter and even stop events. This phenomenon is called: quantum-zeno-effect.
For example, it occurs during the discompusition of atoms. An observed atom deceases differently, than an unoberved.
The unobserved atom takes a condition of "overlapping", a condition of deceased and non-deceased variant. The timely developement of this mix is described by the "Schrödinger-equation":The longer you wait with the observing, the bigger the deceased part of the atom gets.
In the moment of observance the atom has to decide:The "overlapping"- condition is no longer active, and only one variants of the two becomes reality. If it is the undeceased variant, then the "inner-clock" goes back to zero: the time begins "from the beginning" and the feasibility-curve is drawen from the beginning.
Conclusively, the more often you observe, the smaller the feasibility gets that the atom will decease. So if you watch permanently, the small particle takes a condition of total numbness and can no longer follow it's determination. (discompusition)
This quantum-effect does exist indeed: American scientists proved this ondoubtedly with Beryllium-Ions. By permanent measuring, they were able to hold this particle in an unstable state."

I'm a believer, but I love this part: 👍

The idea of an omnipotent creator doesn't change anything. If you actually believe in a god that is all capable, why wouldn't they also screw around and see what sticks to the wall. A billion galaxies and you think "god" would only do it once? Isn't pride a sin?

 

[FoolKiller]

If a particle is not observed, how can anything be said about how it is behaving, and therefore how can it be said that it behaves differently to a particle that is being observed?

I knew this question would come.

Thing is, there are two modes of observation. 1:Through a device=filming the particle-later on you watch the footage. 2:Through consciousness-by a human being-live-in real time.(But also through a device of course like an electro microscope.)

The simple act of filming something for observation is a conscious act. Your consciousness would still be focused on the object even though you are not observing it directly.

Any experiment into measuring how consciousness can affect an object is tainted by the simple fact that the experiment exists. The moment you think about making the experiment you have lost your control group.

 

[Alex p.]

Any experiment into measuring how consciousness can affect an object is tainted by the simple fact that the experiment exists. The moment you think about making the experiment you have lost your control group.

There is no 100% feasibility you are right, but still:👍

 

[Ru-fus]

Translation:
"we found him over there"
"We found him around two hours ago"
"It must have been lying here for days"

Alien body found near UFO crash site in Russia, video

Michael Cohen

Around one month ago this publication reported on a major UFO event that occurred in the region of Irkutsk in Russia's Siberia. Hundreds of villagers saw a huge object, glowing pink and blue, hurtle towards Earth before loudly impacting the ground in a wooded area . The event received widespread coverage in Russia and was reported by Inter-fax, Russia's government news agency (See article here). In the West the event was completely ignored if not deliberately kept from public view.
An enormous team of government officials, including military personal, secret service agents and science ministry officials made their was to the UFO crash site within hours of the event occurring.
Now it seems a video has been leaked onto the Internet showing a dead Alien (see video below), found in the Republic of Buryatia, not far from the site of the UFO crash. Is the alien seen in this video a survivor of that crash who managed to leave the area only to die as a result of Russia's harsh conditions?
Warning: the below video contains graphic images.

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fake or real??

 

[Dotini]

fake or real??

100% Fake.

Michael Cohen is a notorious peddler of phony UFO/alien/paranormal stories. There is no credibility to his byline. More importantly, no UFO or alien artifact has ever been recovered, despite any stories you may have heard.

On the other hand, let there be no doubt that that senior pilots, military officers, government officials and scientists are on record as affirming the UFO phenomenon is real. It's one of the great all time puzzles.

 

[Grayfox]

That is fake like i said in a older post.

Why do all alien stories in volve grayish little men with big black elliptical eyes and large heads.

Because these are the aliens used in the movies that where shown in the 1960's and people think this is what all aliens look like.

 

[Stevisiov]

Its amazing that there are so many reported UFO crashes on earth, is it's earth's atmosphere that causes so many crafts to go tits up and fall out the sky?

 

[Ru-fus]

100% Fake.

Michael Cohen is a notorious peddler of phony UFO/alien/paranormal stories. There is no credibility to his byline. More importantly, no UFO or alien artifact has ever been recovered, despite any stories you may have heard.

On the other hand, let there be no doubt that that senior pilots, military officers, government officials and scientists are on record as affirming the UFO phenomenon is real. It's one of the great all time puzzles.

I agree its 100% fake, i don't believe in aliens, ufo's, ghosts etc, my thoughts are basically what Grayfox's 2nd section of his post was and to add if aliens do really exist they could look like the exact opposite of that for all we know...

 

[Grayfox]

if aliens do really exist they could look like the exact opposite of that for all we know...

Since finding an identical planet like earth is hard since not all planets are the same size, have the same gravity, have the same atmosphere and atmospheric compounds, distance to its star as well as terrain.

Means that what life is on earth may not exist on another planet that can handle life, we can only imagine of what it can look like by using what we know of what life needs inorder to live in other kinds of conditions.

 

[Alex p.]

That is fake like i said in a older post.

Why do all alien stories in volve grayish little men with big black elliptical eyes and large heads.

Because these are the aliens used in the movies that where shown in the 1960's and people think this is what all aliens look like.

Maybe because "Aliens" actually look like this, and therefore are portrayed like this. Yes, hollywood does ridicule things by simply showing them, doesn't alter their reality though.

Its amazing that there are so many reported UFO crashes on earth, is it's earth's atmosphere that causes so many crafts to go tits up and fall out the sky?

I read sth. about it. Some suppose it's Earth's magneto-field sometimes "going crazy" and sometimes certain artificially developed waves by us, well, all pure speculation.

Since finding an identical planet like earth is hard since not all planets are the same size, have the same gravity, have the same atmosphere and atmospheric compounds, distance to its star as well as terrain.

Means that what life is on earth may not exist on another planet that can handle life, we can only imagine of what it can look like by using what we know of what life needs inorder to live in other kinds of conditions.

Who can say that with certainity, maybe the humanoid (not human) form is some sort of "universal body plan".

 

[GTsail]

.....
Means that what life is on earth may not exist on another planet that can handle life, we can only imagine of what it can look like by using what we know of what life needs inorder to live in other kinds of conditions.

To expand further on what Grayfox says, I would think that evolution would play a role in any alien's appearance.

On a world with high gravity, maybe everyone would be short and heavily muscled. On a world with little water, everyone would have a hump like a camel. On a world covered with water, everyone would look like Kevin Costner in "Waterworld".

GTsail

 

[Sam48]

The probability that an alien from a different planet would have two arms, to legs, hands & feet, with a head on top are extremely unlikely. However, if they did happen to have all these features, it could point to one of two, or two of two, things. The first one being that there is a creator/God at work. The second would be that the aliens planted others on other planets, and therefore looked similar. Or, it could be both.

There is also a third possibility. And that is that evolution always creates the most useful creature. That is, us.

 

[AMCNUT]

I just hope that if/when we find sentient life that they are benevolent... and I sure as 🤬 don't want 'em finding us! I have a feeling that if that were to play out it would not go well for the human race! As stated above, if they have the technology to boot across the cosmos to earth without thinking twice about it, they probably also have the technology to completely obliterate us if they wanted to....

 

[Stevisiov]

I agree its 100% fake, i don't believe in aliens, ufo's, ghosts etc, my thoughts are basically what Grayfox's 2nd section of his post was and to add if aliens do really exist they could look like the exact opposite of that for all we know...

I don't subscribe to paranormal endeavours, and I couldn't possibly begin to comment on the relative proximity of Alien life forms....But, I think given the size of our universe, the sheer number of exoplanets, exomoons and other bodies that exist, it seems far more likely than not, that at least some form of what we might describe as life, is out there. Possibly in abundance. It's worth remembering that certain types of life exist on our planet under conditions found within other planetary bodies within our solar system. The question is, have the mechanisms required to kick start life ever occurred on those planetary bodies. Believe it or not, there is still a possibility of life within our solar system other than that found on earth and in orbit around it.

What would be interesting, if we confirmed life on say Europa, what implications would that have for life throughout the Universe. Surely that would suggest life is abundant.

 

[Dotini]

Here, for the private amusement of GTP readers of the aliens thread, are three (synchronized) videos taken by three cameras by three independent groups of witnesses of the recent famous UFO incident over the Dome of the Rock, Temple Mount, Jerusalem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu4ri2GozIY

I have no idea if they are all part of an elaborate hoax - it's possible. To me, the insane acceleration of the object and the other physical properties on display can be readily explained as a strange meteorological occurrence or electrical eccentricity.

Respectfully submitted,
Dotini