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Is there extraterrestrial life?

  • Yes, and they are not Earth like creatures (non carbon based)

    Votes: 19 2.5%
  • Yes, and they are not Earth like creatures (carbon based)

    Votes: 25 3.3%
  • Yes, and they are not Earth like creatures (carbon and non carbon based)

    Votes: 82 10.8%
  • Yes, and they are humanoid creatures

    Votes: 39 5.1%
  • Yes, and they are those associated with abductions

    Votes: 19 2.5%
  • Yes, but I don't know what they'd be like

    Votes: 379 49.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 151 19.8%
  • No, they only exist in movies

    Votes: 47 6.2%

  • Total voters
    761
Very bold of you to say so.
Would you accept that there is but a single universal consciousness, which phases through all sentient life forms, including us and UFO's?
What I mean is, that it's possible and that I agree with mr. deGrasse about it being possible. đź‘Ť I would accept a single universal consciousness if there were any proof for it, and same for a multiple. I expect it to be more likely that there's multiple conscious beings (excluding humans) in the universe(s?) though, as only very little of it (/them?) have been discovered.
 
I find it highly unlikely that intelligent life is exclusive to earth.
I have to agree with Feynman though:


I would have agreed with him if technology and the further applications of science haven't progressed from there to now as much as they have. With that said, it to me then becomes a plausible idea that their is a group or existence beyond ours that has the ability to do what we probably wont be able to to do in the next 50-100 years or more.

However, is it as frequent as people tend to think? No I don't think that. Do I think it has happened in a single instance or more? Sure I do, but only when you've studied and looked at some of the more unexplained cases that though investigated could conclude no reasonable or humanistic rational idea of what unfolded.
 
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If aliens exist and they want to be baptised, then Pope Francis is cool with it:

The Catholic church will recognize, quietly and carefully, such events as miraculous cures, stigmata of the wounds of Christ, and apparitions of the Virgin Mary, as the basis for beatification and canonization of saints. Even bilocation and levitation are considered.

The Muslim Koran acknowledges the existence of Djinn (genies), non-human creatures of smokeless flame (plasma) who emerge from caves and caverns with their own will to play tricks on man.

It would seem there are certain flavors of "alien", or paranormal, presence already here on Earth which worms its way into religions. Of course, religions can be construed as a form of control system for human beliefs and behaviors.

I'm on record as saying that "all religions are lies", and that "some lies are more beautiful, useful or necessary than others, because sometimes the truth is just too ugly and brutal."
 
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014...s-in-the-sky-spotted-above-oc-camp-pendleton/

Strange orange lights videoed by TV reporters in Orange County, California.

California perrenially has thousands of UFO reports. Some think this has to do with atomic power plants and nuke military bases. Scientists recently have published papers confirming the existence of ball lightning and strange lights before and during earthquakes. A spike in UFO sightings over the San Andreas fault could be associated to the electric currents and magnetic fields associated with tectonic faults in strain, and earthquakes.
 
And what do you think about that? Also good link by the way đź‘Ť

Thank you for your question!

I was most interested in #11, because the way it was described, it most closely resembled my own sighting. Unfortunately, it did not load for me so I have not seen it yet. :grumpy:

I do not believe the Turkey/"alien pilot" video shows actual aliens, assuming aliens to be extraterrestrial beings.

I have questions and/or doubts about the Phoenix '97 video.

The remainder are mostly consistent with my opinion that all genuine UFO phenomena are electromagnetic curiosities that we do not yet understand, albeit some under seemingly intelligent control. I know inorganic life composed of dusty plasma particles has already been partially achieved in the lab. The question is, has nature evolved inorganic dusty plasma to the level of consciousness, intelligence, or better?


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I have now reviewed the Hernandez/Carillo YouTube videos of 5/22/09.

They are functionally identical to what I and my family, and many others saw back in the '60's.

It appears to support the case that the UFO phenomenon is electromagnetic activity, possibly fueled by electric fields and magnetic fields associated with the huge clouds seen, and conjecturally might be associated with some primal level of natural intelligence.

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It's also just barely possible that what I saw was God, an angel or some advanced being performing a trick designed to influence the belief system of viewers. In other words, a hoax, or cosmic hoax, if you will.
 
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Im sure that aliens exist somewhere. The universe is too vast and the odds that Earth is the only place where life flourished are just too great for us to be all alone.
Regarding whether life is carbon or non-caron based, its probably a mixture of both because it just happened to be that life evolved here as being carbon-based but its not a rule that all life must be carbon-based.
In the end, its a matter of its not that the universe is stranger than we imagine, its stranger than we can imagine.
 
I want to share to you guys what I saw on the night of '03. Every night when I go out to throw the garbage, I always look up in the sky and stare at the Orion's Belt. So I memorized the formation of the other stars near it. One night I looked for the Orion's Belt (again) but there's something wrong...Something's different I don't know what. Then suddenly a "white star" near it moved a bit. I stared at it thinking its just my imagination. Then it moved (after ten seconds?) "steadily" and stopped. Surprised, I waited a little longer. It moved again now farther and in a very mechanical way. Slowly flying straight, it veered to its left then right, it speeds up suddenly it zipped through the horizon flying in zigzag pattern extremely fast. Yeah...a cliche UFO story/flying pattern but I'm not making up this story. Its not a firefly and its hovering really high it looked like a star.
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I want to share to you guys what I saw on the night of '03. Every night when I go out to throw the garbage, I always look up in the sky and stare at the Orion's Belt. So I memorized the formation of the other stars near it. One night I looked for the Orion's Belt (again) but there's something wrong...Something's different I don't know what. Then suddenly a "white star" near it moved a bit. I stared at it thinking its just my imagination. Then it moved (after ten seconds?) "steadily" and stopped. Surprised, I waited a little longer. It moved again now farther and in a very mechanical way. Slowly flying straight, it veered to its left then right, it speeds up suddenly it zipped through the horizon flying in zigzag pattern extremely fast. Yeah...a cliche UFO story/flying pattern but I'm not making up this story. Its not a firefly and its hovering really high it looked like a star.View attachment 183172

Very nicely told and illustrated encounter. đź‘Ťđź‘Ť

Here's a vaguely plausible astrophysical explanation:

The Van Allen belts encircling Earth are now known to possess extraordinarily powerful electric fields, arranged in hundreds of electric double-layers, which are capable of accelerating particles to very high speeds.

Perhaps the object you saw was a small but brightly glowing plasmoid, briefly trapped in the Van Allen belts and then accelerated out by ejection from the electric field cell.
 
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Very nicely told and illustrated sighting. đź‘Ťđź‘Ť

Here's a vaguely plausible astrophysical explanation:

The Van Allen belts encircling Earth are now known to possess extraordinarily powerful electric fields, arranged in hundreds of electric double-layers, which are capable of accelerating particles to very high speeds.

Perhaps the object you saw was a small but brightly glowing plasmoid, briefly trapped in the Van Allen belts and then accellerated out by ejection from the electric field cell.
Thanks for the explanation. Maybe your right because the light is so high. I felt its like hundred or thousand miles above. I also thought it was a satellite but that fast zigzag before it vanished made me even more skeptical. Thanks! :cheers:
 
Thanks for the explanation. Maybe your right because the light is so high. I felt its like hundred or thousand miles above. I also thought it was a satellite but that fast zigzag before it vanished made me even more skeptical. Thanks! :cheers:

On the other hand, there have been some very credible and well documented cases of sightings similar to yours in which the object appeared to move in response to the attention of your consciousness. In which case, you have briefly been in contact with a true unknown. :odd:
 
On the other hand, there have been some very credible and well documented cases of sightings similar to yours in which the object appeared to move in response to the attention of your consciousness. In which case, you have briefly been in contact with a true unknown. :odd:
You're givin' me the chills bro...Its just a plasmoid! I hope...:nervous:
 
Just for giggles and grins, you might ask yourself if you've had any other unusual or weird experiences in your life. :eek:
🤬!!! Seriously, you're scaring me. Someone also told me that. Though I have a lot creepy, hard to explain experiences like someone knocking at my bedroom door with no other people at the house because i already locked the doors. And the giant shadow figure that was haunting me last '12 etc. etc.... Hey! Its just a light ok?! They are not connected! I'm just an "unlucky guy". *gotta buy some vaseline now* (Also the creepy stories are true but its for another topic.)
 
🤬!!! Seriously, you're scaring me. Someone also told me that. Though I have a lot creepy, hard to explain experiences like someone knocking at my bedroom door with no other people at the house because i already locked the doors. And the giant shadow figure that was haunting me last '12 etc. etc.... Hey! Its just a light ok?! They are not connected! I'm just an "unlucky guy". *gotta buy some vaseline now* (Also the creepy stories are true but its for another topic.)

I truly regret it if I am indeed frightening you. So I apologize for that. However, some knowledge and experience often serves to dispel the fright and disorientation that unusual and weird experiences can inspire. So, in brief, here goes.

Firstly, you are experiencing a slice of what at least 10% of the human population also experiences, so you are not alone and it is a fairly common pattern of experience. As you age, all these sorts of experience will diminish - unless you cultivate them, which is not recommended.

The bottom line is that, when we are young, we are more open and susceptible to what are referred to as mystical, archetypal, psychic, paranormal, extrasensory, occult or religious phenomena. For better or worse, you have certain "gifts" in this area. All of these experiences amount to sort of an invisible elephant in the room, as conventional medicine and science has a hard time dealing with them, although there are are piecemeal attempts at scientific research. It boils down to "consciousness", a term for which there is no consensus science or medical definition. It is a bit of a mystery, but it seems to be both integral and important to the human experience.

A major but generally under-reported fact is that a huge percentage of UFO sightings have accompanying psychic or paranormal overtones or aftereffects. The UFO phenomenon, and by extension the alien and God questions, are absolutely bound together by the knot of consciousness.

So, in conclusion, I would say you are not an unlucky guy, but rather a special and lucky guy. I recommend calmly accepting this, and not worrying in the slightest. Be observant, take notes, or keep a journal. You are obviously articulate and make a great sketch. I would venture to say you have a great future. Please deposit 25 cents in the slot. :rolleyes:
 
Don't know if your joking or serious but I really don't delve into UFO's, the paranormal and supernatural. Though creative, I am logical I even experimented my cat. I can say 8 out of 10 times, she will intentionally put her tail where I will land my foot when walking (because I always step on her tail when near her :lol:). I acted out like i'm going to land my foot near her and she will (almost always) sway her tail to where my foot suppose to land in "exact time" :boggled:. There are just things out there that are hard to explain. Maybe because it only exists in the consciousness of the observer.
 
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