All-Purpose Guide to the B-Spec Online Seasonal: La Sarthe

[Famine]

There are many excellent threads discussing this race already and some threads giving definitive "how to win" statements, most of which requires cars some will not have access to at this point. That is not the purpose of this thread - this thread is designed to help you win with what you have access to, without a raft of settings that might be confusing but with general advice and more specific vehicle help.

Here's some of the existing threads:
Use a Chaparral 2J
Lunarwolf's quick reference winners' guides
General discussion
More general discussion

General Information

• KNOW YOUR RACE - The race is 10 laps long, uses the Circuit de la Sarthe/Change Weather/Change Time course and comprises a grid of 11 AI LMP1, LMP900 and GT1 class cars from the last 20 years. The race starts out dry and in the daytime but it starts to rain about 3 minutes into the race and stops raining with a peak surface water level of 63% at about 20 minutes into the race - for most cars this spell requires Race Intermediate tyres. The circuit then dries towards the end, reaching 30% or so by the finish. The last lap is quite hard on Race Intermediate tyres and even tyres with half their life left may be burned out by the finish.[*]KNOW YOUR OPPONENTS - The AI can be divided into three distinct groups:
  • The pack of cars that will lead the rest home will generally consist of the Bentley Speed 8, the Audi R8 '01, the Audi R8 Oreca '05 and the Pescarolo GV5 '04 - sometimes the Pescarolo Hybride '05 too.
  • The middle pack of the Peugeot 905 '92, the Mazda 787B and the BMW V12 LMR, along with the Pescarolo Hybride '05, will commonly finish some tens of seconds further back.
  • The third pack are also-rans, made up of the Mercedes CLK-LM, the Toyota TS020, the Nissan R390, the Pescarolo Courage '03 and the Audi R10 '06.
  All of the AI will pit for Race Intermediate tyres at the end of lap 3 (except the BMW V12 LMR, the Pescarolo '03 and occasionally, don't ask why, the Mazda 787B and Toyota TS020, which all pit at the end of lap 2) and then again for Race Hard tyres at the end of lap 9. The two Audis and two lead Pescarolos will struggle for grip on lap 4 (cold tyres), lap 6 (wettest track) and lap 10 (cole tyres) and can occasionally be found sideways through Tertre Rouge (the final corner before the long straight) or Mulsanne (the corner at the bottom of the long straight) - the Bentley will not - and some cars can move very slowly through the Porsche Curves (the sweeping corners before the pits) on their last lap with a given set of tyres.
  Typically the lead AI will be one of the Audis or the Bentley and they will reach the finish in a race time of 40'31s or thereabouts. This is an average, including pit stops, of 4'03 laps. This equates to an average flying lap time of 3'57.[*]KNOW YOUR GRIDS - Having the Peugeot 905 at the head of the grid is good, as it will back the lead pack up. Try to get a grid that doesn't include the BMW V12 LMR as it is extremely aggressively driven and an excellent all-rounder - it will hold you up at first and then it will pass you again. Without this in the field, you can reach the lead pack and stay with them more easily. The 14th grid after booting the game up is ideal.[*]KNOW YOUR STRATEGY - All B-Spec Bobs will want to join their friends in the pits on laps 3 and 9. If your strategy does not include pitting on these laps you will need to keep an eye on the yellow "P" indicator next to Bob's mood bar and cancel his pit stop if it lights up. It will typically light up as he leaves the Ford Chicanes and heads to the line on lap 2 (for a stop on lap 3) and can occur anywhere on track on lap 9. Bringing Bobs into the pits immediately behind or in front of other cars can cause problems as he is held up negotiating the pit entry, waiting in his box for other cars to come past or getting held up by cars being released from their box. There are three common strategies:
  • No-stopping - Do the whole race on one set of tyres. This generally only works with the Chaparral 2J due to its weight and outstanding aerodynamic grip.
  • One-stopping - Bringing the car in on lap 3 or 4 and changing to Race Intermediate tyres, then running those to the end of the race. The last lap can be quite tricky, particularly if you've pitted earlier, as it is phenomenally hard on the Inters.
  • Two-stopping - Bringing the car in on lap 2 or 3 for Race Intermediate tyres and then again on lap 8 either for Race Hards (risky - you'll need to know how your car works on these tyres in those conditions) or Race Intermediates. This strategy can be worth 10-15 seconds over one-stopping and recommended if you're in need of small margins of time.
  These are by no means the only strategies - there are all sorts of permutations involving tyres grades (including some very odd ones with Sport Softs) - but they are the commonest and best tested.[*]KNOW YOUR BOBS - Not all Bobs are created equal and some have better abilities despite indications otherwise. Bobs trained through B-Spec alone seem to have better passing and defending abilities than Bobs trained through Remote Racing, but this may simply be an illusion. Knowing which of your Bobs is a better passer will help you negotiate the moving obstacles better - non-passing Bobs will only succeed on the three straights, whereas good-passing Bobs will pass everywhere and can defend well.[*]KNOW YOUR MOODS - Bob is naturally fastest when his mood bar is completely red, but he is much closer to the ragged edge and more liable to make mistakes - particularly on a greasy, bumpy track in a high-powered car. It will also physically tire him more. Generally a Bob runs best and more consistently if his mood indicator is in the grey zone but up near the red zone, at about 65% on the bar. He will need constant reminders to stay there - he will get more agitated if drivers follow him closely or block him and he will get more lethargic if there's little for him to do. Do not allow him to be full red while approaching the Dunlop Chicane (first corners on the lap), the chicanes on the Hunaudieres straight or approaching Mulsanne corner, especially when wet. He may also struggle at Arnage and Tertre Rouge if it's wet, he's tired and he's in the red. Use the straights wisely - keep him calm at the start to get a good drive off the bend, tell him to pass once he's in a slipstream and the gap is closing up and then calm him down while he's alongside so he can make the pass and not screw it up at the corner. If you're running a long stint on one set of tyres, it's good to keep Bob in the middle or just below to stop him shredding the tyres.

The event information recommends you use 2 Bobs and of level 35 or higher. Neither of these is truly necessary, but both will help. If you do not yet have Bobs of this level, I recommend running the other B-Spec Online Seasonal Event, using JGTC cars at Spa-Francorchamps, first. That race is much easier and can be won with a relatively low level Bob using a 600PP Honda NSX (there's one available in the OCD right now), starting on Intermediate tyres and cancelling any attempt to stop for new tyres (which will happen at the end of lap 7). A Bob with the 200% bonus available to him will net 700,000xp for that race and it'll level him up to the 30s pretty quick.

Cars
There are a number of cars available for the event - essentially anything up to 700PP is eligible - but few competitive choices:

• Chaparral 2J '70 - This is the event's trollcar. Many users report significant success running this on a single, long run on Sports Soft tyres without pitting, even with lower level Bobs. This is not a viable option for most people, since the car is phenomenally expensive. You can, of course, borrow one from anyone on your Friends list who has set one to share. If you just want to win the race, do this and ignore everything written above as irrelevant.
• Audi R8 (Audi Playstation Team Oreca) '05 - This is probably the best all-rounder in the field, with plenty of power and available downforce. It may need a subtle engine limiter adjustment to get it down to the 700PP, but nothing else should need doing. This has the advantage of being available in the OCD right now for 4,000,000 credits - and that's the prize money you get at 200% for the Spa Seasonal. The generally accepted technique is to run the car to the end of lap 3 (probably in 5th-7th place) on Race Hards, change to Race Intermediates (and another Bob if you wish) and run to the end. If you don't get caught up racing the lead pack, they will pit right in front of you on lap 9 and you can stroll to the win keeping Bob cool on lap 10. I have one set to Share on my account for anyone on my Friends list.
• Audi R8 '01 - Fewer reports of success with this, but it is certainly capable of a win, if not necessarily as easily as the '05.
• Bentley Speed 8 '03 - The Bentley is as capable of a win as the Audi R8 '01, though there are very few reported attempts.
• Pescarolo C60 Hybride–Judd '05 - Slightly down on pace compared to the R8 '05 in the AI hands, this should be capable of a Bob victory. Again, rare reportsyet.
• Pescarolo Courage-Judd GV5 '04 - As above, but with the advantage of being available in the OCD right now for 4,000,000 credits - and that's the prize money you get at 200% for the Spa Seasonal.
• Mazda 787B '91 - A Premium alternative and always available as a result. Only a handful of reports of success, but again this runs with or close to the lead pack and shouldn't be an issue with a good Bob.
• Toyota TS020 GT-One '99 - Another car that needs little modification. With good Bobs who can pass well and the absence of the BMW V12, the Toyota can win in stock form (with a little added downforce to help through Porsche Curves and gearing lengthened to help on the straights). The technique of a pitstop on lap 3 for Intermediates and running to the end of the race works just as well here.
• BMW V12 LMR '99 - Good grip, good pace and reasonable tyre wear give the BMW a good chance of winning if you can avoid being blocked by the AI. Stock gearing is a little short, but otherwise this is another out-of-the-box winner.
• Peugeot 908 HDI FAP Team Oreca Matmut/Team Peugeot Total '10 - Tricky to win. Another Premium alternative, though only one report of success using it. The Peugeot has unrivalled (disregarding the Chaparral) grip and is the quickest way from the Porsche Curves right up to Tertre Rouge, but has little straight line pace and a lot of low end torque making the drive out of slow, wet corners occasionally tricky and tyre-shredding. It does seem to have good tyre life despite this.
• Pescarolo Courage-Peugeot '03 - Tricky to win. Poor in AI hands due to gearing. Almost no attempts or success recorded (it's the slowest of the three and not in the OCD at the moment, so no shock there), but stands a chance of doing a job with better gears.
• Nissan R390 GT1 '98 - Unlikely to win, though better Bobs may see some joy. Just about on a par with the TS020, but enough behind to make all the difference.
• Toyota Minolta 88C-V '89- Unlikely to win (no reports of success yet). Overpowered and underweight and prone to lighting up the tyres out of corners. Extremely fast in a straight line and all but uncatchable even with drafting if it gets the power down right.
• Sauber C9 '89 - Unlikely to win even with very high level Bobs. Overpowered, so it's excellent on the straights even for lower level Bobs - so devastatingly fast that it can break the slipstream - but it will chew its tyres out of every corner. Avoid.
• Mercedes CLK-LM/CLK-GTR '98 - Unlikely to win due to weight, downforce and tyre wear. A good challenge, but ultimately a hair slower than the R390. Might be possible with excellent Bobs.
• Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car - Unlikely to win due to weight and tyre wear, but good grip. If you really want a challenge, and your Bobs are awesome give it a go, but don't say I didn't warn you!
• Nissan GT-R R35 TC - Unlikely to win again due to weight and tyre wear. However, the 4WD makes it devastating in corners especially in the wet and one of the few cars that'll effectively pass leaving bends rather than into them or through them. Possible, but a massive challenge. One report of a victory, amazingly!
• Audi R10 TDI '06 - Unlikely to win. Dog slow. Avoid.
• Toyota 7 '70 - WILL NOT WIN. Even slower. Avoid.
• Peugeot 905 '92 - No reports. Unknown
• Jaguar XJR-9 LM '88 - No reports. Unknown
• Nissan R89C '89 - No reports. Unknown
• Nissan R92CP '92 - No reports. Unknown

Wins

• g2010ag - Audi R8 '01 (822hp, 900kg, 700PP, specific settings) - 39'22.5
  Bobs: Unknown; Strategy; RH tyres to end of lap 2 (plus fuel), RI tyres to end of lap 8 (plus fuel), RI to end.
• McSoap-90 - Chaparral 2J '70 (806hp, 835kg, 700PP; Speed to 261mph) - 40'00.0
  Bobs: Level 40 & Level 39; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 2, RI tyres to end of race
• GTsail290 - Audi R8 '01 (unknown - just oil change) - 40'00.3
  Bobs: Level 38 & Level 38; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 2, RI tyres to end of lap 7, RH tyres to end of race
• Famine - Audi R8 Team Oreca '05 (777hp, 950kg, 700PP; engine limiter only) - 40'10.7
  Bobs: Level 38 & Level 37; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 3, RI tyres to end of race
• Vexeis - Mazda 787B '91 (749hp, 830kg, 700PP; speed to 377km/h)
  Bobs: Level 38 & Level 35; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 4, RI tyres to end of race
• kj_mil - Nissan R92CP '92 (Unknown) - ~40'20
  Bobs: Level 40 & Level 38; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 2, RI tyres to end of lap 7, RI tyres to end of race
• Famine - BMW V12 LMR '99 (797hp, 906kg, 700PP; ballast, speed to 242mph) - 40'25.5
  Bobs: Level 39 & Level 38; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 2, RI tyres to end of lap 8, RI tyres to end of race
• s2k2k3 - Nissan GT-R R35 TC (897hp, 1215kg, 700PP; specific settings) - 40'29.7
  Bobs: Unknown; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 3 (10 litres required), RI tyres to end of race
• stigs lil bro - Bentley EXP Speed Eight '03 (unknown; specific LSD settings) -~40'30
  Bobs: Level 38 & Level 32; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 3, RI tyres to lap 8, RH to end of race
• xEnZo - BMW V12 LMR '99 (765hp, 900kg) - 40'32.9
  Bobs: Level 34 & Level 35; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 3, RI tyres to end of lap 9, RI tyres to end of race
• NotreDAMNNN - Toyota Minolta 88C-V (n/a, 865kg, 700PP; specific gearing and aero) - 40'43
  Bobs: Level 32 & Level 31; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 3, RI tyres to end of lap 8, RI tyres to end
• Famine - Toyota TS020 '99 (764hp, 900kg, 698PP; Aero to 60/85, Speed to 249mph) - 40'49.7
  Bobs: Level 38 & Level 37; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 3, RI tyres to end of race

Best Not Wins

• Famine - Nissan R390 (845hp, 1000kg, 700PP; Speed to 260mph)
  Bobs: Level 39 & Level 38; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 2, RI tyres to end of lap 8, RI tyres to end
  2nd @ 40'51.8
• Famine - Toyota Minolta 88C-V (820hp, 960kg, 700PP; limiter, ballast, max Aero, Speed to 242mph)
  Bobs: Level 39 & Level 38; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 3, RI tyres to end of lap 7, SS tyres to end
  7th @ 41'09.7
• garbuckle - Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car (809hp, 689PP; everything on it) - 41'10
  Bobs: Level 39 & Level 36; Strategy: RH tyres to end of lap 4; RI tyres to end of race

 

[Outeke]

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Well said!

 

[GTP_Monkey]

Great post, Hope this clears up all the confusion how to win. As Famine stated you dont need high level bobs, just coax them. If you do have a level 40 bob with a good career try running him alone without help it does work.

My best bob has done it unaided under 38 mins in a well sorted Toyota GT-One and also under 40 mins in the chaperral 2J at 39,39,xxx no pitting, I now use this method to earn credits.

 

[Vegard]

Excellent OP.

I'll add that pushing too hard when it is very wet will cause excessive wheelspin in the slow corners. Your rear tyres will deteriorate quickly and loose grip, causing even more wheelspin and/or spins.

Also, surely a 500pp NSX can't win at Spa

 

[HaylRayzor]

... I recommend running the other B-Spec Online Seasonal Event, using JGTC cars at Spa-Francorchamps, first. That race is much easier and can be won with a relatively low level Bob using a 500PP Honda NSX (there's one available in the OCD right now), starting on Intermediate tyres and cancelling any attempt to stop for new tyres (which will happen at the end of lap 7). A Bob with the 200% bonus available to him will net 700,000xp for that race and it'll level him up to the 30s pretty quick.

Four points:

First, the PP level is 600 for the Spa event. Typo I'm sure.

Second, the best tires are Sport Soft for the Spa event. Bob will run the whole race just as fast as Intermediates, he will never even try to pit, and he'll have half his rears left at the end.

Third, if you need to run the Spa event with a low level Bob, let the track dry to 20% or less before you hit start. The AI cars will start on Race Hard, but the track goes back to 30% so the AI cars will pit on lap one and you get the lead for free. And they'll still pit on lap 7. If you use SS tires you basically can't lose.

Fourth, a great way to level up Bob is to put him in a FGT or X1 and let him run the 9 hour enduro overnight. Way more XP than the seasonals, and will happen automatically while you sleep. When I retire a Bob I have a new replacement level 32 Bob the next day.

 

[Famine]

500pp

PP level is 600

This is what I get for trying to run sub-500PP cars at the Nurburgring 4 hours for a month Corrected.

 

[W3H5]

Thanks Famine. I actually haven't been able to win both races yet to claim my ticket but I'm sure with this know how I'll be on for a win.

I now predict other, new threads about this B-Spec event coming to a complete halt.


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Edit: Any idea what the Speed 8 will top out at on the straights? My other entrants are hit and miss when it comes to wins at Le Mans.

 

[Famine]

Oddly, the ticket I won for this gave me a BMW V12 LMR '99... Testing ahoy!

 

[C-ZETA]

All of the AI will pit for Race Intermediate tyres at the end of lap 3 (except the BMW V12 LMR, the Pescarolo '03 and occasionally, don't ask why, the Mazda 787B, which all pit at the end of lap 2)

I have seen the GT-One do this. And quite often at that.

 

[Famine]

Ah, that's good to know. I thought I was imagining it, since he's gone 3 laps every race since

 

[Blitz24]

You mention that the Sauber C9 should NOT be run Famine. Is there any indication if the same holds true for all Group C cars not mentioned? (Jaguar XJ9, Nissan RCs, Peugeot 905 and the Minolta Toyota).

 

[Famine]

I've heard tell that the Minolta will work and I vaguely recall someone talking about one of the Nissan Rs [though it wasn't clear which] being unsuccessful. I'd hazard a guess that the Group Cs probably do all suffer the same problem as the Sauber - low speed, greasy surface grip and tyre death. I'd like to give the XJR9 a run because it is so ludicrously fast in AI hands usually. But there is only one way to find out...

I'll be running everything I have that I deem even remotely appropriate, just so there's better advice. I'm contemplating the R35 TC from the first Car Pack too...

 

[C-ZETA]

You mention that the Sauber C9 should NOT be run Famine. Is there any indication if the same holds true for all Group C cars not mentioned? (Jaguar XJ9, Nissan RCs, Peugeot 905 and the Minolta Toyota).

I did try the 905 first of any car I tried and it is not fast enough. Lack of torque is to blame, which is also why you see it backing up the opposition so well as an AI. PP system means its low weight always gives it first place advantage as an AI when it shows up. The 88C-V and R92CP might well have the same outcome as the C9. The Jaaaaaaag and R89C, less so due to less speed but they probably aren't much better.

Also, could it be possible to force your Bob to actually want to pit on Lap 2 like the numerous AI that will on occasion?

 

[Blitz24]

I did try the 905 first of any car I tried and it is not fast enough. Lack of torque is to blame, which is also why you see it backing up the opposition so well as an AI. PP system means its low weight always gives it first place advantage as an AI when it shows up. The 88C-V and R92CP might well have the same outcome. The Jaaaaaaag and R89C, less so due to less speed but they probably aren't much better.

Also, could it be possible to force your Bob to actually want to pit on Lap 2 like the numerous AI that will on occasion?

I'm sure you can force him to pit. Whether or not he actually wants to is debatable. (Actually, whether or not your Bob has any desires or wants is further debatable.)

 

[C-ZETA]

I'm sure you can force him to pit. Whether or not he actually wants to is debatable. (Actually, whether or not your Bob has any desires or wants is further debatable.)

I mean as in make him auto-pit, not give him a command. Short of using something like a Trans-Cammer that will make tyres cry, LMPs with Bobs will always go for auto-pits on Lap 3.

 

[HaylRayzor]

I won this the first time with the Audi R8, but it was by a mere 1 second.

Second time it was with the washing machine (2J) on sport soft tires. With pace up commands to keep him going when he wasn't near an AI car it was an easy win.

I would have won in the R35 TC if I had taken fuel at the pit stop. I foolishly assumed the car could do the 10 laps on a full tank. It will do 9.

 

[dhandeh]

I find calling the 2J, a trollcar, offensive!

I can also confirm the strategy for the Audi R8 '01, is the same as the Audi R8 (Audi Playstation Team Oreca) '05 as you have speculated. This is my preferred car as it takes a bit of managing, which is the point of this seasonal.

 

[W3H5]

Audi R8 (Audi Playstation Team Oreca) '05

I've just picked one of those up from the OCD. My Stealth R10 was running mid pack and my Minalota needs an engine rebuild.

 

[Akwaaba]

Re: using the Bentley I Won on the second time with a Bentley Speed 8
reduced height, and took off 10% aero front and rear, minimum weight, reduced power to 700pp, and geared to 230mph (which wasn't quite enough)

With only one pit stop -
Used 2 Bobs, Level 37 (who is fast and a bit wild) and then a calmer Level 35

Bob 1 on RH, kept in the red throughout his stint, and got upto 4th
pitted the lap after everyone else and came out in about 9th (for inters and 10 litres of fuel)

Overtook the 905 Peugeot, and then kept BOBs pace down to about 70%,
kept up with the frontrunners,

as daylight returns overtake a few who have used up their tyres, with 2 to go I increased the pace, to catch up with the leading pack
at the end of lap 9 - everyone else pits,

then spent the rest of the last lap maintaining Bobs pace, won by 5 seconds, with inters with very little left on them!

 

[dhandeh]

Another tip, it is best to tweak the top speed to around the 240mph or just below area. Getting a good tow along the straights can make a awkward race a lot easier and a easy race, a doddle.

 

[Blitz24]

I've heard tell that the Minolta will work and I vaguely recall someone talking about one of the Nissan Rs [though it wasn't clear which] being unsuccessful. I'd hazard a guess that the Group Cs probably do all suffer the same problem as the Sauber - low speed, greasy surface grip and tyre death. I'd like to give the XJR9 a run because it is so ludicrously fast in AI hands usually. But there is only one way to find out...

I'll be running everything I have that I deem even remotely appropriate, just so there's better advice. I'm contemplating the R35 TC from the first Car Pack too...

Are the stealth cars eligible for this? I would think they could also do something in this event. (Mind you something might be equivalent to finishing dead last but that would be as opposed to failing to reach the grid.)

 

[C-ZETA]

Are the stealth cars eligible for this? I would think they could also do something in this event. (Mind you something might be equivalent to finishing dead last but that would be as opposed to failing to reach the grid.)

They are eligible. The 787B should have the same chance of a win as its normal counterpart. However, I tried the R10 Stealth consistently and came close a lot but never came out with any cigar.

 

[W3H5]

Are the stealth cars eligible for this?

They are. I've used the F1 and the R10.

 

[Famine]

I would have won in the R35 TC

What?! And how?!

Edit: Lv38 Bob just got one to 5th overall, 40s down. I can see a fifteen second gain from strategy in there now, but those other 25s are still asking "What?! And how?!".

I wonder about the McLaren F1 GTR now...

 

[dhandeh]

Just doing a XJR-9 run now, 3 laps in, a win should be there.

Edit - Don't use the Jaguar XJR-9, it is a tyre eater. It finished 7th.

 

[StevenDunn99]

I have won this with the Audi R8 '01 and Nissan R89C using a level 36/37 Bob. Race strategy was identical; pit at the end of lap 2, take the lead on lap 3, pit again at the end of lap 9.

Once I worked out the AI strategy I won both first time by keeping a close eye on Bob and how the race developed throughout. It is important to make sure the tranny and downforce are set correctly for Le Sarthe (excuse me stating the obvious). I used the power limiter on standard spec (ie turbos) for both cars.

Edit: last pit typo.

 

[I Love GT6]

Thanks Famine, I hope this will help me:tup:

 

[SnyDX]

First of all, i must say this is a great POST!! Thank you very much for this!

Although, since i'm runing the R8 Race Car (Audi PlayStation Team ORECA) '05 i have this little question:

First you say that:

KNOW YOUR STRATEGY - All B-Spec Bobs will want to join their friends in the pits on laps 3 and 9. If your strategy does not include pitting on these laps you will need to keep an eye on the yellow "P" indicator next to Bob's mood bar and cancel his pit stop if it lights up. It will typically light up as he leaves the Ford Chicanes and heads to the line on lap 2 (for a stop on lap 3) and can occur anywhere on track on lap 9. Bringing Bobs into the pits immediately behind or in front of other cars can cause problems as he is held up negotiating the pit entry, waiting in his box for other cars to come past or getting held up by cars being released from their box.

So i've assumed that I SHOULDN'T pit my BOB among the others at the 3rd lap right?

But then you wrote:

Audi R8 (Audi Playstation Team Oreca) '05 - This is probably the best all-rounder in the field, with plenty of power and available downforce. It may need a subtle engine limiter adjustment to get it down to the 700PP, but nothing else should need doing. This has the advantage of being available in the OCD right now for 4,000,000 credits - and that's the prize money you get at 200% for the Spa Seasonal. The generally accepted technique is to run the car to the end of lap 3 (probably in 5th-7th place) on Race Hards, change to Race Intermediates (and another Bob if you wish) and run to the end. If you don't get caught up racing the lead pack, they will pit right in front of you on lap 9 and you can stroll to the win keeping Bob cool on lap 10. I have one set to Share on my account for anyone on my Friends list.

So, i must ask if we should or shouldn't pit in lap 3 among the AI?
Am i misreading what you have wrote and we should pit one lap after the AI?

Once again thank you for the guide.

 

[dhandeh]

If your using any car other than the 2J, it is imperative to pit on lap 3. Too early the tyres won't last, too late and you will lose too much time.

Reading famine's post that you quoted, he is simply telling you of a possible risk when pitting in a cluster of cars.

 

[Famine]

Yes, that.

Some people like to bring their cars in on lap 2 or lap 4 - if you can run lap 3 on Race Inters and not lose time, or run lap 4 on Race Hards and not lose time it's a good idea, because you don't get held up by other cars in the pits - and the Race Inters certainly don't seem to mind running an extra lap when it's raining. Lap 3's probably the ideal time but you might like to have an alternate strategy if you're in a pack of AI cars.