America - The Official Thread

[Dennisch]

Not even Fuhrer Tinyhands McMushroom-Peepee?

No, like what happened with Santorum should happen to Donald J. Trump. His name should become the slur.

 

[Famine]

No, like what happened with Santorum should happen to Donald J. Trump. His name should become the slur.

It already means "fart" and has done for 500 years. What more do you want?

 

[Dennisch]

It already means "fart" and has done for 500 years. What more do you want?

Fart with pieces shooting out.

 

[Hayden]

The Conmander & Thief

 

[NotThePrez]

Fart with pieces shooting out.

Hippo Hitler?

 

[wheelhp]

It's funny how some Americans think that socialism is bad (and imo mistake it for communism).

Everything is communism if it's not straight up extreme left democracy, that's how it goes now.

 

[Joey D]

I had no idea this was a thing:

Businesses, White House plan for possible rail strike Friday

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Business and government officials are bracing for the possibility of a nationwide rail strike at the end of this week while talks carry on between the largest U.S. freight railroads and their unions.

apnews.com

From a passenger perspective, it's fine because we don't really rely heavily on commuter rails in the US. However, with freight, a strike would be a huge blow to the economy and even the food supply since we're coming into harvest season and many crops are transported via rail.

 

[TexRex]

After 40 months and a whopping two indictments--one resulting in an acquittal and the other yet to see trial, and neither pertaining to the thrust of the allegation--the grand jury in the Durham investigation expires and Durham's mandate seems to be headed with it.

By comparison, the Mueller probe, about which Republicans bitched incessantly, lasted about 23 months from appointment to publication of heavily redacted findings, and resulted in a whole bunch of convictions (and ultimately some Trump pardons, because of course).

 

[Tornado]

MSN

Cannon, in issuing her order, said that she was not willing to accept the government's assertions that roughly 100 documents taken from Mar-a-Lago were classified -- even though they were labeled as such, with some bearing "SECRET" and "TOP SECRET/SCI" markings.

Wow you mean she's a partisan hack? I'm shocked.

 

[Imari]

In appointing Dearie as special master, Cannon urged him to "prioritize review" of the roughly 100 documents with classification markings and asked him to complete his review of all the documents by Nov. 30, more than a month beyond what the DOJ had called for.

Good to see they're taking this seriously and expediting the process. 75 days to review 100 documents seems... a relaxed pace. I'm not sure the word "prioritize" belongs anywhere near that.

Maybe Dearie is quiet quitting.

 

[TexRex]

Judge Cannon denied DOJ's motion for partial stay pending appeal.

Her order does not seriously grapple with the issues raised by DOJ, particularly the way in which her order injures national security.

DOJ positioned this as well as possible for appeal.

Cannon's original order was counter to precedent and exceeded her authority. On its own, that order appeared likely to be reversed on appeal.

But DOJ presented Cannon with narrower issues (e.g. need for a national security assessment) that typically the Executive Branch wins on.

She found against DOJ even on the narrow issue of the use by the Executive Branch of its own classified material.

She essentially found that Trump's concerns outweighed the Executive Branch's national security concerns and entitled him to relief no other citizen receives.

When your property is seized pursuant to a court-ordered search warrant, you are not entitled to judicial relief prior to indictment except for very rare and unusual circumstances.

But Cannon found Trump was entitled to a special process despite the countervailing interests.

This sums it up: "Based on the nature of this action, the principles of equity require the Court to consider the specific context at issue, and that consideration is inherently impacted by the position formerly held by Plaintiff."

i.e., former presidents get special treatment.

Given that Cannon knows an appeal is inevitable, I expected her to moderate her position in response to DOJ's motion.

At the very least, I expected a well-reasoned opinion that seriously grappled with the issues raised by DOJ. This is not that opinion. /end

"When your property is seized pursuant to a court-ordered search warrant, you are not entitled to judicial relief prior to indictment except for very rare and unusual circumstances.

But Cannon found Trump was entitled to a special process despite the countervailing interests."

Weird.

Edit:

Maybe Dearie is quiet quitting.

[snort]

 

[Populuxe]

So a judge Trump appointed isn't just incompetent but a partisan hack.

 

[UKMikey]

Loose Cannon

 

[TexRex]

Loose Cannon

 

[Populuxe]

This whole Martha’s Vineyard immigrant fiasco is blowing up in the face of DeSantis. The volunteers in MV and Massachusetts are being seen as the good and kind people they are, while DeSantis is being vilified as the cruel, sadistic tin Hitler that he actually is. Watch this video. The lawyer working the immigrants cases lays out in painful detail just how much lying and falsifying of records went on, in the hopes these people would be booted out of the country.

 

[Famine]

Wait, isn't it a federal offence to transport undocumented immigrants across state lines?

 

[Liquid]

Wait, isn't it a federal offence to transport undocumented immigrants across state lines?

I am the federal state.

- DeSantis, probably

 

[Populuxe]

Wait, isn't it a federal offence to transport undocumented immigrants across state lines?

Migrants caught in DeSantis’ monstrous stunt allege federal DHS agent involvement

Tallahassee immigration attorney Elizabeth Ricci told the Orlando Sentinel Friday that DHS and ICE had to be involved. “ICE likely conspired with the governor’s office to pull off the stunt,” Ricci said. “It couldn’t have been done without their direct involvement.”'

 

[Danoff]

Migrants caught in DeSantis’ monstrous stunt allege federal DHS agent involvement

Awesome. So while we investigate trump for seizing and improperly storing federal documents, tampering with elections, and insurrection (and probably tax fraud or whatever), we can also investigate DeSantis and DHS agents for human trafficking.

Law and order.

 

[Darla Starch]

Awesome. So while we investigate trump for seizing and improperly storing federal documents, tampering with elections, and insurrection (and probably tax fraud or whatever), we can also investigate DeSantis and DHS agents for human trafficking.

Law and order.

These are their stories.

DUN DUN.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Wait, isn't it a federal offence to transport undocumented immigrants across state lines?

From what I’ve read, the waters are muddy on this. Regardless, the precedent has already been set last year. So Gavin Newsom’s request to have the DOJ(?) look into this will have shaky ground at best

Exclusive | Biden secretly flying underage migrants into NY in dead of night

Planeloads of immigrants are being flown into New York under the cover of darkness in an effort by Biden’s administration to quietly resettle them.

nypost.com

Apparently this same thing happened to Florida around the same time

 

[McLaren]

The NYPost that is cross-sharing Tucker Carlson.

Because there's definitely not more to that story that differentiates itself from what DeSantis did.

Edit: Yep, totally different situations. Helps to read sources that actually dive into the situation instead of trash tabloids right-wing pundits jerk to.

Most children crossing the border alone are from Central America, and when they travel without a parent, they usually carry with them contact information of a parent, relative or friend who is expecting them.

Under anti-trafficking legislation passed with bipartisan support by Congress, the children, known by the government as “unaccompanied minors,” must remain in the custody of the U.S. government until a sponsor, usually a family member, has provided requisite paperwork and passed vetting.

Yet while the numbers may have expanded, the flights are part of a process that also occurred under the Bush, Obama and Trump administrations.

“For years, both Republican and Democratic administrations have used charter flights to safely transfer unaccompanied children from the border to shelters nationwide,” said Elora Mukherjee, director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic at Columbia Law School.

“The claim that these flights are new or secretive is baseless and irresponsible,” she said.

‘Ghost Flights’? The Facts Behind Transporting Migrant Children (Published 2022)

Government flights carrying undocumented children from the border to federally licensed shelters around the country are being criticized by conservative politicians in an election year.

www.nytimes.com

 

[NotThePrez]

Hey, DeSantis, the 1960's called, and they'd like their Reverse Freedom Rides back. I'd personally prefer for them to stay there, and for you to not waste my (and other Floridians) money on these stupid stunts and do something actually useful for once.

 

[UKMikey]

The difference is DeSantis has no authority in California. Not shaky ground at all.

 

[Yard_Sale]

The NYPost that is cross-sharing Tucker Carlson.

Because there's definitely not more to that story that differentiates itself from what DeSantis did.

Edit: Yep, totally different situations. Helps to read sources that actually dive into the situation instead of trash tabloids right-wing pundits jerk to.

‘Ghost Flights’? The Facts Behind Transporting Migrant Children (Published 2022)

Government flights carrying undocumented children from the border to federally licensed shelters around the country are being criticized by conservative politicians in an election year.

www.nytimes.com

If you read the article, it comments on how Biden said they did it, and why.

The difference is DeSantis has no authority in California. Not shaky ground at all.

Correct.

But if they are going to site federal law, or pursue some sort of federal-whatever, it’s going to be tough being that Biden flew illegal immigrants from Texas to New York… and allegedly Florida

 

[McLaren]

If you read the article, it comments on how Biden said they did it, and why.

Yeah, that's a no. Skimming through was enough to know it's pure trash; the false headline, the crying about the planes being louder than usual, the fake outrage by Dick Santis.

But if they are going to site federal law, or pursue some sort of federal-whatever, it’s going to be tough being that Biden flew illegal immigrants from Texas to New York… and allegedly Florida

Nope, not the same circumstance. Biden's "secret" flights are allowed by Congress under both parties, being done since Bush to look after underage children 'til a vetted caretaker comes for them.


DeSantis didn't do this.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Yeah, that's a no. Skimming through was enough to know it's pure trash; the false headline, the crying about the planes being louder than usual, the fake outrage by Dick Santis.

If you don’t want to read it, that’s fine.

But if you read it, it’s all there.

 

[UKMikey]

But if they are going to site federal law, or pursue some sort of federal-whatever, it’s going to be tough being that Biden flew illegal immigrants from Texas to New York… and allegedly Florida

As he's the President, isn't it Biden 's administration's job to fly undocumented minors that are wards of the state to wherever they can get help?

 

[McLaren]

If you don’t want to read it, that’s fine.

But if you read it, it’s all there.

Quote it, then. Because it must be hidden in misinformation & fake outrage.

Or... read what I shared that sums it up without the conservative spin on it.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Quote it, then. Because it must be hidden in misinformation & fake outrage.

Or... read what I shared that sums it up without the conservative spin on it.

Na, the article has it all. Don’t care to quote it…. Not to mention I don’t know how 😂.


FWIW, I always thought that was a brilliant political move by the dems to fly migrants to Florida. Pretty smart way to shift the voting color of that state of you ask me.


On the other hand, all these states, cities and counties claimed to be “sanctuary” in response to Trump’s border policies. It is amusing to watch their responses to what is very clearly a political stunt by Florida and Texas right now.

I’d be saying the same thing if the roles were reversed too.

Just calling balls and strikes on this one.