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Whether or not it differs from Twitter, it's going to need Section 230.

Websites operated privately have a right to moderate user generated content that they carry, because content moderation absent legitimate state action is an expressive act rather than a suppressive one.

If websites that host user generated content have to evaluate that content for liability--though they had no part in its publication apart from providing, conditionally and entirely at their discretion, the infrastructure for user publication--in order to moderate after it's been published, they are effectively deprived of the right that the First Amendment to the United States Constitution protects.

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Wow.
Which teams have been laid off at Twitter?

From news reports and terminated employees’ announcements, here’s what we know so far about the teams that have been hit by the layoffs of thousands of Twitter employees:

  • The human rights team has been laid off, according to a now former employee, Shannon Raj Singh, who said the team worked to protect those at risk in global conflicts, including in Ukraine, Afghanistan and Ethiopia.
  • The ML (machine learning) Ethics, Transparency and Accountability team is gone, according to a tweet of a laid-off manager.
  • The “internet technology team”, which helps keep the site running, has been cut to “a skeleton crew”, two sources told the Times.
  • An accessibly experience engineering team has been cut, according to a laid-off engineering manager.
  • The curation team, responsible for the Moments feature on Twitter, has also been cut, former employees reported.
  • Twitter’s communications department is almost entirely gone, according to the Verge.
  • Other areas that have been heavily impacted, the Verge reported, include product trust and safety, policy, research and social good.
And..
Report: Musk fires Twitter curation team tackling misinformation
As of now, 3 of my 4 Twitter accounts no longer exist. And the other is going soon.
 
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Political consultant and GOP strategist--also former Mitch McConnel chief of staff--not merely echoing Republican senator Tom Cotton's messaging last week, but stating it explicitly.

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As of now, 3 of my 4 Twitter accounts no longer exist. And the other is going soon.
I've deleted two of my three accounts. I'm just trying to find an alternative to Twitter before deleting the last one. It seems all the alternatives are problematic in some way.
 
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What? You're suggesting that I'm going to be fined or jailed for making a single comment about you embracing your roots as an radical anarchist on a games forum on the internet where everyone is operating under pseudonyms?

I think you don't understand anything you've been talking about. I'd like to see what flavour this medicine is that you think you're gonna make me taste.

Good job I don't have to then. I can just say that I think you're acting in a way that makes you look like you're a closet radical anarchist.

Feel free to tell me what laws I've broken that would justify thinking about going anywhere near a court.

You reckon? You seem the most excited about the idea of anyone here. That and your colossal misunderstanding of what constitutes a viable reason for legal action in the first place makes me think that you absolutely would if you got the chance.
No I'm not suggesting, you are. Either purposefully for lack of a better argument or the point is still going over your head. I remember posting this "you'd have a very hard time proving in court that I'm a radical anarchist, just saying! " You WOULD have

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Anyway I see leftists on social media are the first to applaud somebody getting the cops at their door for some silly internet commentary, being fined or even jailed, and I basically said it could easily backfire on them at some point.
Doesn't literally mean your commentary but hey maybe If I cried hard enough and claimed it affected my mental health do you think they'd do something about it? lmao in this current crazy world you never know... I'm thinking about that British man who had the police at his door for apparently hurting somebody's feeling online.
I think I made it clear enough this time, so no need to keep grasping at straws. Imagine calling somebody an anarchist when you're probably one of those who applauded the "defund the police" movement, such irony. If you aren't one of those then I apologize!

IMO What the police is being proposed to do has got potential for far worse, things don't happen overnight, it's one step at a time. An interesting read, sounds familiar?
 
Anyway I see leftists on social media are the first to applaud somebody getting the cops at their door for some silly internet commentary, being fined or even jailed, and I basically said it could easily backfire on them at some point
Pics or it didn't happen.
 
So you don't see yourself in that crowd? good but it's too late! better keep that speech in check or inevitably one day the speech police might knock on your door too. I can't find proof that it's mostly leftists that cheer for these but who else would be?

Can you find proof that it's anyone who's cheering for possible wrongful arrest outside of your own head?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
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Counter.social is a great one.
I couldn't remember the name of this one, so thank you.

Looks like most of those I "follow" on Twitter are presently committed to it, but it'd be nice if there was some consensus as to migration.

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Edit: Not sure it's even possible to browse Counter.social without registering.
 
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I couldn't remember the name of this one, so thank you.

Looks like most of those I "follow" on Twitter are presently committed to it, but it'd be nice if there was some consensus as to migration.

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CoSo is genuinely good. I follow the developer and host of the website, a former hacktivist by the name of Jester who's behind some very notable attacks on entities hostile to the US.

...And is also responsible for the one time that Westboro Baptist's website got hacked and replaced with an image that read "Westboro Baptist, even Jesus hates you". He's worked on the site for five years and there is a LOT going for it right now.
 
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I'm hoping bluesky turns out well. I'm kind of interested to see what they come up with and how it differs from Twitter.
Well... lest we forget, Dorsey still has $1bn of Twitter shares, is still friends with Musk, and still endorses him as the solution for keeping Twitter as a "public utility" rather than a company through his sole ownership.

Have a thing:
 
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No I'm not suggesting, you are. Either purposefully for lack of a better argument or the point is still going over your head. I remember posting this "you'd have a very hard time proving in court that I'm a radical anarchist, just saying! " You WOULD have
Sure, if you take that sentence out of all context, you're absolutely right. But we're not in a court. This forum isn't a court, and there's no reason why I would ever be in a court trying to prove anything about you. Taken alone without context, it's a complete non-sequitur.

Unless you're trying to imply something. Or if you're just stupid, I guess, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Anyway I see leftists on social media are the first to applaud somebody getting the cops at their door for some silly internet commentary, being fined or even jailed, and I basically said it could easily backfire on them at some point.
Doesn't literally mean your commentary but hey maybe If I cried hard enough and claimed it affected my mental health do you think they'd do something about it?
Doesn't literally mean my commentary but you said it in response to my commentary with no reference to any other specific situation? Are you aware of context at all, or does the world just sort of wash past you in a dreamlike haze?

And no, they won't do something about it. You can pull a Karen and you might get someone to show up at my door asking polite questions. But you're not getting me fined or jailed for saying you behave like a radical anarchist on the internet. You're not getting me fined or jailed if I said that to your face.

Like I said before, name the crime I've committed. If I'm gonna be fined or arrested then there has to be a crime associated with that, if only for the sake of paperwork.
I think I made it clear enough this time, so no need to keep grasping at straws. Imagine calling somebody an anarchist when you're probably one of those who applauded the "defund the police" movement, such irony.
Why is that ironic? Because I think that it's unreasonable to expect a police officer to be a master of a dozen highly specialised professions?

Police should have a clear and limited role in society, and be funded appropriately for that role. Other functions that are currently fulfilled by police should instead receive their own funding to better address issues that when unaddressed eventually lead to illegal behaviour, like mental health and homelessness. This would result in the police receiving less funding and more going to places like public housing and mental health support, and that seems totally fine to me. I would prefer to reduce crime by removing the root causes of crime, instead of tooling up the police and asking them to take on ever more work that it's impossible to expect them to be qualified for.

This is not a radical or unsupported idea. https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA108-1.html

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You seem to want the opposite. You seem to want the police to be bigger and more powerful so that they have even more control over the common citizen, even though your posts are already complaining about "censorship" from entities like Twitter (a non-state actor). It's okay when the police infringe your "freedoms", but not when Twitter does? Is that about right?

The police as they are now are basically a gang. Gangs are what arise in societies without strong governmental structures or recognition of authority.

Somebody should make a word for societies like that. And people who support the thoughts and actions that lead to them. It seems like it would be useful.
 
As is mastodon.social, but that may be because I’m inclined to think it’s for people to obsess over how Leviathan is one of the greatest metal records of all time.
Counter Social used to be a Mastodon instance. IIRC, they completely separated from Mastodon because Mastodon didn't like some of the security measures CoSo was implementing.
 


Idk bout no drought, it just rained last night in Ohio. Hell, the grass is still green @Joey D.

It just keeps raining in Northern Michigan. We had over 8" of precipitation in October, which is about 4" above average. November is on track to be pretty wet too and right now we're 8" above a normal year.

The grass is still green too and I just cut it last weekend.
 
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Well... lest we forget, Dorsey still has $1bn of Twitter shares, is still friends with Musk, and still endorses him as the solution for keeping Twitter as a "public utility" rather than a company through his sole ownership.

Have a thing:

I'm not sure how bluesky fits in the picture with Twitter, but as long as Elon is not in control it should turn out better. What happens when Twitter goes down the toilet?
 
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"get a blue checkmark, just like the celebrities, companies, and politicians"

"half the ads and... twice as relevant"

"your content will get priority ranking in replies, mentions and search"


Incredible.
 


Ah. Threatening to do the same thing assholes like Neil Druckmann do and weaponize his Twitter followers against people that make him mad (at the suggestion of Trumpers).




Free Speech from definitely-not-political Elon Musk means you're free to support him, like with DeSantis and Disney.
 
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Did he really set the price based on one tweet from Stephen King. Well yes he did.
In this case, he's just like Trump. Except he will be giving you SOME (insignificant) benefit when he takes your money.
 
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