America - The Official Thread

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Sanji Himura
What @Dotini is saying, and I am not trying to put words into his mouth here, The Logan Act only applies to those people who undermine the official position of the United States regarding foreign governments. Anyone who travels to North Korea to meet with Kim Jong Un (like Dennis Rodman did on at least seven occasions since 2013 to 2014 and wasn't charged), could be seen as a violation of the Logan Act because the Government does not maintain friendly relations with North Korea. Anyone who travels from the United States to fight for ISIS could be seen as a violation of the Logan Act as the US doesn't even recognize ISIS. In the case of ISIS, however, we do have stronger laws in the books for those who do go out and fight for ISIS.

Russia is a bit different since our position has changed over the last 33+ years. As far as I know, the Trump administration has not taken an official stance on Russia, and thus Flynn may or may not be violating the Logan Act. Flynn would have to be investigated by the Attorney General and dealt with accordingly.
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Which I would have no issue with, it's the assumption that he should not even be investigated that seems odd.
 
Scaff
Which I would have no issue with, it's the assumption that he should not even be investigated that seems odd.
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On the surface, yes, it is indeed odd that he isn't being investigated for a Logan Act violation. But what is being played out behind the scenes is our improving relations with Russia (some of us being tied and dragged to the negotiating table it seems) may yield the return of Snowden.
 
Sanji Himura
On the surface, yes, it is indeed odd that he isn't being investigated for a Logan Act violation. But what is being played out behind the scenes is our improving relations with Russia (some of us being tied and dragged to the negotiating table it seems) may yield the return of Snowden.
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Not everyone agrees that those better relationships will be better for the US, Europe or the world as a whole. So I can understand the reluctance by some.

Still no reason for zero interest in an investigation.
 
The White House says Trump was referring to a news report when he was talking about "last night in Sweden". Apparently Fox News broadcast something about immigrants in Sweden. Why he mentioned it in the same sentence as terror attacks in Germany remains a mystery, especially since he promised to cut out the middle man that is the media so that the American people got the full story.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration has drafted a plan to aggressively crack down on illegal immigrants:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...ning-and-deporting-illegal-immigrants/8285474
 
Chrunch Houston
Glad to see you posting something pro Trump
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It's a terrible idea. It's basically one step short of turning the border states into the Wild West.

From now on, you should probably assume that anything I post in relation to Trump is as critical as critical can be. Like the part where I pointed out the incredible irony of his misleading comments about Sweden after first promising to give Americans the most accurate and true account of political affairs by bypassing the media.

And for the record, I think Trump is possibly the most dangerous person the world has seen in years, and that you're a fool for enabling him.
 
prisonermonkeys
It's a terrible idea. It's basically one step short of turning the border states into the Wild West.
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There is no country on the planet that has allowed itself to be so infiltrated by illegals. How large is the illegal community in Sydney? How many millions of illegals live in all of Australia?

prisonermonkeys
you're a fool
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Wow, I think I need a safe space. But I think I'll suck it up, and not start screaming AUP.
 
Chrunch Houston
How large is the illegal community in Sydney? How many millions of illegals live in all of Australia?
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Don't think it's fair to compare Australia due to how our Oceans are pretty dangerous for immigrants to even come by boat and you can't exactly walk from another country to Australia.
 
Chrunch Houston
There is no country on the planet that has allowed itself to be so infiltrated by illegals.
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You say "infiltrated" as if they have an organised, covert agenda. They must be monsters for seeing the corruption and violence that has plagued their homelands and wanted something more for themselves. They must be the scum of the earth for looking to America and the narrative that it tells the world about being free and compassionate. They clearly deserved to be locked up or shipped off to some hellhole for seeing you and daring to think "there but for the grace of God go I".

Chrunch Houston
How many millions of illegals live in all of Australia?
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It's all relative. There are more people in New York state than there are in Australia, so of course your number is going to be higher if you only compare them directly.
 
Just like Australia, this country is a nation of immigrants. Americans have NO problem with that.

Much like your country, our country has a process for migrating here. And we allow poor and rich alike to become citizens
prisonermonkeys
You say "infiltrated" as if they have an organised, covert agenda.
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Call it what you want, it is what it is. These people did not follow the process.
 
prisonermonkeys
The White House says Trump was referring to a news report when he was talking about "last night in Sweden". Apparently Fox News broadcast something about immigrants in Sweden. Why he mentioned it in the same sentence as terror attacks in Germany remains a mystery, especially since he promised to cut out the middle man that is the media so that the American people got the full story.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration has drafted a plan to aggressively crack down on illegal immigrants:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...ning-and-deporting-illegal-immigrants/8285474
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Not just any Fox story, but one that is error filled and has been widely shown to be predominantly biased nonsense.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...news-report-a7589031.html?cmpid=facebook-post

This, Mr President, is why you do need those intelligence briefings, Fox news is not a valid substitute if you want the world to take you seriously.

That takes us to three 'attacks' that have been made up, something that in my view potentially puts a demographic within the US at increasingly greater risk.
 
I can believe people like us getting our information from news sites even the unreliable ones.

But, seriously, can't the President get any sort of info without the news he can use?
 
RESHIRAM5
I can believe people like us getting our information from news sites even the unreliable ones.

But, seriously, can't the President get any sort of info without the news he can use?
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He can, but there is the ability of agencies that work for him not informing him properly or his staff not relaying things properly due to infighting. It's not unheard of in a Presidency to have groups not like who is in charger based on various reasons.
 
prisonermonkeys
It's a terrible idea. It's basically one step short of turning the border states into the Wild West.

From now on, you should probably assume that anything I post in relation to Trump is as critical as critical can be. Like the part where I pointed out the incredible irony of his misleading comments about Sweden after first promising to give Americans the most accurate and true account of political affairs by bypassing the media.

And for the record, I think Trump is possibly the most dangerous person the world has seen in years, and that you're a fool for enabling him.
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Alot of us feel that your a fool for bashing Trump before you even gave him a chance. You been hear screaming about how dangerous he is without one ounce of proof he or anything he is doing is dangerous. We know you THINK he and his actions are dangerous, but you have no proof just your foolish opinion based on assumptions instead of action.
 
fatkrakr
Alot of us feel that your a fool for bashing Trump before you even gave him a chance. You been hear screaming about how dangerous he is without one ounce of proof he or anything he is doing is dangerous. We know you THINK he and his actions are dangerous, but you have no proof just your foolish opinion based on assumptions instead of action.
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Donald? Is that you Donald?
 
Dotini
Once the moderators feel its okay for members and mods to call each other fools on a political basis, then I feel this entire forum needs to to stop and think about this.
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Which mods have called other people fools? BTW I think it's ironic that your comment was liked by one of the fool-calling perps.
 
UKMikey
Which mods have called other people fools? BTW I think it's ironic that your comment was liked by one of the fool-calling perps.
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My bad. Not a mod but a staff emeritus. But his usage was implicitly endorsed by a mod who posted later without mentioning the gratuitous insult.

Personally, I prefer an extra effort in the direction of politeness and tolerance, especially where differences of opinion are inevitable and part of the format.

If this forum degenerates into a name-calling free-for-all, I'll find a better forum with a higher class of people.
 
Dotini
My bad. Not a mod but a staff emeritus. But his usage was implicitly endorsed by a mod who posted later without mentioning the gratuitous insult.

Personally, I prefer an extra effort in the direction of politeness and tolerance, especially where differences of opinion are inevitable and part of the format.

If this forum degenerates into a name-calling free-for-all, I'll find a better forum with a higher class of people.
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Perhaps the mods are working for the deep state.

There must be more efficient ways than this to highlight an AUP violation.
 
UKMikey
Perhaps the mods are working for the deep state.

There must be more efficient ways than this to highlight an AUP violation.
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Was there an AUP violation? My concern is for basic politeness and decency in the way we treat each other. An old-fashioned concept, but a virtuous one, I would think.
 
Dotini
My bad. Not a mod but a staff emeritus. But his usage was implicitly endorsed by a mod who posted later without mentioning the gratuitous insult.
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I find that unsurprising.

Dotini
Personally, I prefer an extra effort in the direction of politeness and tolerance, especially where differences of opinion are inevitable and part of the format.
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I try to do likewise. How well I succeed, well that's a good question.
 
Scaff
Not just any Fox story, but one that is error filled and has been widely shown to be predominantly biased nonsense.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...news-report-a7589031.html?cmpid=facebook-post

This, Mr President, is why you do need those intelligence briefings, Fox news is not a valid substitute if you want the world to take you seriously.

That takes us to three 'attacks' that have been made up, something that in my view potentially puts a demographic within the US at increasingly greater risk.
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Related. Swedish policemen featured in Ami Horowitz film say they've been misrepresented.

http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyhete...ed-in-fox-news-segment-filmmaker-is-a-madman/
 

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