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Strangely, I don't see anybody calling out that bow-tie wearing Tucker when he cut someone off that didn't toe his personal opinion line.

I wonder why that is...
I don't even pay attention to Tucker's work so I don't notice.
 
Strangely, I don't see anybody calling out that bow-tie wearing Tucker when he cut someone off that didn't toe his personal opinion line.

I wonder why that is...
I've only seen Tucker a couple of times and he is belligerent and does talk over people. Does he also pretend like their feeds are cut when they start saying things he doesn't like? Haven't seen that myself. The difference could be that one is honest and upfront about their bias and the other is using technology as a crutch to support theirs while pretending to be unbiased?
 
What's up with the republicans and the ACA mess? They're adopting elements of universal healthcare because they're concerned about the backlash of ending obamacare overnight? Uh... phase out? That's what the government does...

I'd have thought they'd have a replacement bill ready to go the moment they got in office. This is amateur hour.
 
What's up with the republicans and the ACA mess? They're adopting elements of universal healthcare because they're concerned about the backlash of ending obamacare overnight? Uh... phase out? That's what the government does...

I'd have thought they'd have a replacement bill ready to go the moment they got in office. This is amateur hour.
You'd think that after seven years of "autistic screeching" against Obamacare they'd have come up with a replacement. :rolleyes: Surprisingly for a party which worships the free market (unless Jesus doesn't like it, like with narcotics, porn or booze), they didn't even remove the restriction against getting your insurance from a different state!
 
There are a fair few montages of CNN cutting off guests with similar screens when they get too far off the left wing talking points.


This is the kind of post that reinforces the divide in US politics. There's no question that the CNN editorial position was pro-Clinton & anti-Trump in the election, but they constantly had (& have) pundits on criticizing Clinton or supporting Trump - Jeffrey Lord & Kayleigh McEnamy (among others) are permanent fixtures in the CNN line-up, so it's ridiculous to suggest that they would attempt to (very occasionally) cut off a commentator by deliberately cutting the feed. What would be the point?
 
The inconvenience of having the power to follow through on all the empty, unfeasible promises they've spent the last eight years making.
But they don't have the power. Yet. Rand Paul and the Freedom faction are holding firm on paying for it. The rest of the Republicans want to borrow.
 
But they don't have the power.

Yes they do. "The power" = controlling the White House and both houses of Congress.

That they now can't agree on a good plan to replace the ACA just illustrates my point; every time during the last eight years that they promised they could come up with something better than the ACA, that helped more people and yet magically cost less money, it was empty, unrealistic nonsense.
 
Yes they do. "The power" = controlling the White House and both houses of Congress.

That they now can't agree on a good plan to replace the ACA just illustrates my point; every time during the last eight years that they promised they could come up with something better than the ACA, that helped more people and yet magically cost less money, it was empty, unrealistic nonsense.

I haven't been paying much attention lately, I'm tired of the media's lack of integrity in general. The last I heard, the bickering on the Right was mainly to do with the funding (of the Replacement to the ACA), not the new plan itself. Sounds to me like a budget issue, more or less. Rand and the Tea Party love pulling the string on this stuff. Grab the popcorn this should be fun.
 
This is the kind of post that reinforces the divide in US politics. There's no question that the CNN editorial position was pro-Clinton & anti-Trump in the election, but they constantly had (& have) pundits on criticizing Clinton or supporting Trump - Jeffrey Lord & Kayleigh McEnamy (among others) are permanent fixtures in the CNN line-up, so it's ridiculous to suggest that they would attempt to (very occasionally) cut off a commentator by deliberately cutting the feed. What would be the point?





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5my7EJv42PU
 
A plan is worthless without a way to pay for it.

If there's a problem with funding, then there's a problem with the plan.


There is a problem with funding in general, we are 3 trillion in debt with no signs of slowing down with Trump in office. Sharp increases to Military spending coupled with a reignited Nuclear Arms race with Russia, plus a national infrastructure restoration proposal..... all in addition to funding a new Health Care bill, we're screwed.
 
There is a problem with funding in general, we are 3 trillion in debt with no signs of slowing down with Trump in office. Sharp increases to Military spending coupled with a reignited Nuclear Arms race with Russia, plus a national infrastructure restoration proposal..... all in addition to funding a new Health Care bill, we're screwed.

I don't care what their excuses are.

They shouldn't have spent most of the last decade now telling us they had the solution ready to go, all that needed to happen was for us all to trust them and vote them in.

It's quite obvious now that reality has set in; fixing healthcare isn't as simple as campaign sound bites made it seem.
 
...reality has set in
That's one of life's most fun expressions to invoke. I can recall only a few occasions when it happened in the realm of politics - JFK's assassination and Nixon's resignation, for instance. Otherwise, politics is a continuous avalanche of quicksand and BS, smoke and mirrors.
 
What's up with the republicans and the ACA mess? They're adopting elements of universal healthcare because they're concerned about the backlash of ending obamacare overnight? Uh... phase out? That's what the government does...

I'd have thought they'd have a replacement bill ready to go the moment they got in office. This is amateur hour.

They're replacing something that doesn't work with something that doesn't work.

Really all they need to do is allow health insurance to be bought across state lines and move Medicare/Medicaid to value based care instead of fee for service. Value based care has been shown to be a cheaper way to go and it encourages preventative medicine instead of expensive reactionary medicine. It wouldn't fix everything but it would be a good start.

We also need to dump Meaningful Use since it didn't do what it promised and it's just a bunch of data that doesn't really do anything. It's also super costly since it takes an entire team of IT analysts to stay on top of it. We also need to enact a nationwide, single MRN that allows your health information be be accessible electronically no matter which health system you go to. That way you could shop around and go to the health system that gives you the best price, the best care, or a combination of the two without worrying about missing something from your medical record.

The government should also deny any reimbursement for Medicare/Medicaid for any health system not on an EMR (since there's no way Medicare/Medicaid would ever get dropped). It's 2017 and paper charts aren't effective and have a significantly higher chance of errors and privacy violations. If you get rid of all the stupid reporting that's required, or at least get rid of most of it, EMR's would work so much better. In my past job I probably spent 75% of the time building stuff in the EMR I supported to met things like Meaningful Use instead of designing tools that made the doctor's life easier so they could spend more time with the patient or just see more patients in general instead of spending hours at the computer.

Oh and we can ditch CMS audits, they are stupidly expensive and most hospitals use a third-party accreditation to make sure their organizations are safe, secure, and look after patient's privacy.
 
You think this proves what? CNN is so "left wing" that it cuts off Bernie Sanders?! And then a long, respectful discussion between Carol Costello & the Muslim woman who is invited on to explain - at great length - her support for Trump? You have pretty much illustrated my point.
Bernie was cut off after making a joke about CNN being fake news..quite the coincidence. The Muslim woman was about to take down a sacred cow, the silent Mrs. Khan, and, again, coincidentally cut off.
 
Bernie was cut off after making a joke about CNN being fake news.

I guess you're not familiar with the concept of irony. I've heard a whole assortment of people from the Trump camp on CNN accusing CNN of propagating "fake news". Why CNN would choose the leftie-in-chief for censure?

The Muslim woman was about to take down a sacred cow, the silent Mrs. Khan, and, again, coincidentally cut off.

The Muslim woman had more than 5 minutes to put across a whole range of Trumpy talking points, which she was able to do without being unduly interrupted & certainly without being cut off. There was nothing particularly significant about the moment she was "cut off" - and she was on skype ... it happens.

There's nothing to see here ...
 
What's up with the republicans and the ACA mess? They're adopting elements of universal healthcare because they're concerned about the backlash of ending obamacare overnight? Uh... phase out? That's what the government does...

I'd have thought they'd have a replacement bill ready to go the moment they got in office. This is amateur hour.

I'm having a silent fit on the inside. Even Rand Paul's bill is open to being manipulated. Face it-- Trump is going to be the bad guy no matter what. Might as well be the bad guy the country needs by striking the root while you've got the axe raised.
 
This is the kind of post that reinforces the divide in US politics. There's no question that the CNN editorial position was pro-Clinton & anti-Trump in the election, but they constantly had (& have) pundits on criticizing Clinton or supporting Trump - Jeffrey Lord & Kayleigh McEnamy (among others) are permanent fixtures in the CNN line-up, so it's ridiculous to suggest that they would attempt to (very occasionally) cut off a commentator by deliberately cutting the feed. What would be the point?
The point would be to the push the viewpoint CNN wants in particular instances.

It's not restricted to politics; CNN was caught last year cutting the feed to a black woman that seemed to be presenting sympathy just before she told protestors to go "burn down other neighborhoods".
 
The last I heard, the bickering on the Right was mainly to do with the funding (of the Replacement to the ACA), not the new plan itself. Sounds to me like a budget issue, more or less.

To be fair, any moron can come up with the best health system in the world if cost is no issue.

Cost is always an issue. If they can't get their "better" system to work for the same money or less than the ACA, in what sense is it better?

There is a problem with funding in general, we are 3 trillion in debt with no signs of slowing down with Trump in office. Sharp increases to Military spending coupled with a reignited Nuclear Arms race with Russia, plus a national infrastructure restoration proposal..... all in addition to funding a new Health Care bill, we're screwed.

To be fair, it's not like this has snuck up on the US. It's been high since the GFC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States

If they're gonna replace the ACA then they have access to all the funding for that. Do they need more as well?
 
This is the kind of post that reinforces the divide in US politics. There's no question that the CNN editorial position was pro-Clinton & anti-Trump in the election, but they constantly had (& have) pundits on criticizing Clinton or supporting Trump - Jeffrey Lord & Kayleigh McEnamy (among others) are permanent fixtures in the CNN line-up, so it's ridiculous to suggest that they would attempt to (very occasionally) cut off a commentator by deliberately cutting the feed. What would be the point?

You're not understanding the genius of it Biggles.

Step 1 - invite people on who are going to say things you don't like, instead of, you know, not inviting them in the first place
Step 2 - wait until they've got through some (or a lot) of the things you don't want them to say, then cut them off
Step 3 - only do this a couple handfuls worth of times out of hundreds (thousands?) of hours of coverage.

You'd think it'd be far, far easier to just employ the traditional methods of biased coverage - like the honest, upfront good guys at Fox News do - but CNN knows what it takes to get ahead in the Fake News™ market!

Their only big mistake was pretending it was "technical difficulties" that cut people off, which as we know never happens by accident with TV feeds, and especially with Skype calls.

And really they should know better than to think they wouldn't get found out eventually - remember for instance that time someone here sussed that people were being paid to form "organic" protests, from just a video of a row of parked buses?


No, nothing gets past people with..........absurd levels of confirmation bias, it seems.
 
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