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McLaren
I heard tonight the committees would like to question Rice & have her testify, but a spokesperson for her called the allegations ludicrous and did not deserve comment.
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They very well could hold a congressional hearing and subpoena Ms. Rice in the near future, but if they did, she would likely end up pleading the 5th to most questions. Which I imagine would be several hours of "I'm going to exercise my 5th amendment right" to each question.

Adam Schiff would like her to testify in front of the House Intelligence committee which I'm sure would be a hour or two of softball questions aimed at clearing her name.

I think the best approach is just to continue the investigation without her testimony. She has already admitted to unmasking American citizens. The burden of proof would fall on the prosecution to show that her motive in the unmasking of American citizens was for political purposes. I'm not a lawyer or anything but I think that's how it would work if they found enough there to move forward with charges.
 
DDastardly00
They very well could hold a congressional hearing and subpoena Ms. Rice in the near future, but if they did, she would likely end up pleading the 5th to most questions. Which I imagine would be several hours of "I'm going to exercise my 5th amendment right" to each question.

Adam Schiff would like her to testify in front of the House Intelligence committee which I'm sure would be a hour or two of softball questions aimed at clearing her name.

I think the best approach is just to continue the investigation without her testimony. She has already admitted to unmasking American citizens. The burden of proof would fall on the prosecution to show that her motive in the unmasking of American citizens was for political purposes. I'm not a lawyer or anything but I think that's how it would work if they found enough there to move forward with charges.
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The beginning of Ricegate?
 
As criticism mounts of the costs of the President's "Winter Palace" (aka Mar-a-lago) a fierce opponent steps in.

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I don't support action in Syria unless we are fully prepared to go to war with Russia (hint, we're not). It's appalling on every level and something must be done about it but a full scale operation with boots on the ground is probably the worst decision we can make with the worst outcome for all sides involved. In other words, nobody wins in this scenario, not the USA, Asad, Russia or anyone. ISIS might benefit from actions in Syria though.
 
DDastardly00
I don't support action in Syria unless we are fully prepared to go to war with Russia (hint, we're not). It's appalling on every level and something must be done about it but a full scale operation with boots on the ground is probably the worst decision we can make with the worst outcome for all sides involved. In other words, nobody wins in this scenario, not the USA, Asad, Russia or anyone. ISIS might benefit from actions in Syria though.
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Bush's presidency was floundering until 9/11 gifted him with the best of all possible gifts - a war presidency.

A simultaneous war with North Korea, China, Russia, Syria and Iran might be just the thing that makes Donald and America great again.:rolleyes:
 
Flash news.

A fusillade of cruise missiles from two Arleigh Burke class destroyers has been launched against Assad targets in
Syria.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...get-assad-trump-hearing-military-options.html
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Thursday that “steps are underway” on an international coalition to pressure Bashar Assad from power, as President Trump was being briefed on military options for Syria – though what specific steps the U.S. and its allies might take in response to the latest deadly chemical weapons attack remained unclear. America’s top diplomat addressed the Syria crisis a day after Trump declared in the Rose Garden that the chemical strike would not be tolerated. Tillerson pointedly said Russia should “consider carefully” its support for the Assad regime, while calling for an international effort to defeat ISIS in Syria, stabilize the country and ultimately work with partners through a political process that leads to Assad leaving power.
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I guess the red line has been crossed and this time someone is going to do something about it.
 
Dotini
The flaming sword of truth, justice and the American way strikes swiftly in the deft hands of President Trump.:boggled:
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CNN is reporting 50 Tomahawk Cruise missles launched against airfields in Syria.
 
Dotini
Bush's presidency was floundering until 9/11 gifted him with the best of all possible gifts - a war presidency.

A simultaneous war with North Korea, China, Russia, Syria and Iran might be just the thing that makes Donald and America great again.:rolleyes:
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Please don't. You've been promoting Trump as the anti-war candidate for a while. This has never rung true to me. In spite of his American self-interest first campaign rhetoric, I don't see Trump as a man who will step back from a confrontation if provoked ... & by any number of possible provocations. Every US President in the last few decades seems to have found it necessary to wage war for one reason or another. I have zero expectation that Trump will prove to be the exception to this rule.
 
Are we seriously at war with another Middle Eastern country? Guess we gotta bomb em all!

I honestly thought Trump, for all his shortcomings, would at least focus his efforts to the US and not starting a new war but rather just keep bombing terrorist outcroppings here and there to show that the US hasn't gone soft or anything. The sad part is, Clinton would have done the same thing here.
 
I don't think it's intended to be a war; Trump seems to have targeted just the air field where the chemical weapons came from as a sign of retaliation, I guess as if to keep it from happening again. Of course, it's Russia that's the main cause. NBC was told a US official gave warning ahead of time to Russia that they would launch the missiles & that no Russian military was targeted. But, the ball is in Vladimir Safronkov's hands now if his word sticks.
 
Joel
I'm sure launching $60M worth of missiles with 1000lb warheads each is just part of Trump's non-intervention anti-globalist strategy. Just more 6 dimensional chess from President Daddy.
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It is just President Daddy's way of saying, don't gas the babies.
 
The difference between Trump and Obama: Trump can argue that Obama set precedent by engaging in air strikes in Syria without the approval of Congress. Furthermore, Trump AND Obama can argue that the official declaration of war passed by Congress on 14 September, 2001 grants him the authority to act against state sponsors of terror, as Syria would have been since 1979.

Declaration of war
 
Sanji Himura
The difference between Trump and Obama: Trump can argue that Obama set precedent by engaging in air strikes in Syria without the approval of Congress. Furthermore, Trump AND Obama can argue that the official declaration of war passed by Congress on 14 September, 2001 grants him the authority to act against state sponsors of terror, as Syria would have been since 1979.

Declaration of war
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He could argue either, but both would come over as rather hypocritical given his tweet.

I thought it was Clinton that was supposed to be the war monger who was going to antagonise Russia? Targeting a key Russian ally that they have defended as innocent of this attack would seem to be antagonistic to me (however I'm sure many will find a way to rationalise it as different because Trump).
 
Joel
I'm sure launching $60M worth of missiles with 1000lb warheads each is just part of Trump's non-intervention anti-globalist strategy. Just more 6 dimensional chess from President Daddy.
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I have this horrible feeling that Trump is the sort of guy that wants to get value out of all the money he's spending on the military, and doesn't see that there's any value in not using it.

Which sort of sucks if you're in a country that isn't allied with the US at the moment.

TenEightyOne
Yup, turns out that Trump doesn't think heavy-handed-interventionism-with-no-exit-plan-or-realistic-chance-of-success is such a bad idea after all. And he needs something to show the visiting Chinese just how big his bollocks are.
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Quite. Now the Chinese will be very clear that he's full to the brim of bollocks. Overflowing with them, if you will. Just a seething, bubbling pool of wrinkly, hairy bollocks.

Mmm, mental imagery... ;)
 
Scaff
I thought it was Clinton that was supposed to be the war monger who was going to antagonise Russia? Targeting a key Russian ally that they have defended as innocent of this attack would seem to be antagonistic to me (however I'm sure many will find a way to rationalise it as different because Trump).
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Putin was informed of the attack before it happened.

Trump destroyed the air base that launched the chemical attack with 59 thousand pounds of precision guided high explosives.

Message sent. Waiting for reply. Hopefully Trump has ended the conversation.
 

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