In politics outrage is not a true emotional reaction to an event you find egregious or scanadalous, it's simply a tool in your political toolbox that you pull out whenever it's politically expedient to do so. Whatever outrage the Democrats have over this is the exact same outrage the Republicans would have had, had Hillary won and fired Comey. Had Comey stayed on and Trump was cleared of any wrongdoing with the Russian affair, the Democrats would be calling for his head. Had Comey stayed on under a Clinton administration the reaction would have been the same on the Republican side. Blah, blah, blah, outrage has zero meaning in politics.
Thanks for spelling it out for me, i am not the brightest on these sort of topics, but i am willing to educate myself.
What you said makes sense and i now see why his days were numbered no matter what the situation is...
He was conveniently the designated scapegoat... Or should i say he made himself conveniently disposable to all party...
Uh, pretty much. And the Right would be just as dumb for getting upset if Clinton fired Comey herself.
The Left are outraged because they're just mad Trump did it and some are like andrea above; they spew whatever dumb nonsense they want without looking at a letter above that says otherwise.
Neither side has a right to be upset over this firing because both sides called for Comey's head during the election. They both got what they wanted, and every
sane person here said in the election thread that Comey's days would be numbered regardless of who won after the worst possible way of handling Clinton's investigation.
Edit* Here's a decent example. Sanders slammed Trump for firing Comey, believing it was to hush any Russian ties.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-firing-comey-in-order-to-kill-inquiries-into
Here's Sanders back in January believing Comey should resign for his conduct over the Hillary investigation.
http://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fbi-james-comey-resign-2017-1
Sanders got what he wanted, just not the way he wanted it done.
I get what you are saying, but the timing seems strangely awkward...
For example, you are providing example of why Sander is mad on either cases, but those are for different reasons, and his reasons seem in each case fair enough...
You are right that Sanders and everyone got what we wanted, but you seem to be saying they we all should be ok for getting What we wanted no matter the form or timing it took... Which i believe is not correct because now the situation is slightly different and there seems to b some "conflict of interest" in the surprised decision by the POTUS.
Things are adding too much to make this oust not "innocent" enough
And like I'd/anyone would/should trust Comey's finding, after his Hillary investigation. He lied, flat out. As one of the Senators said last week during Comey's testimony in congress, How can you tell me no one committed a crime, when numerous unauthorized people have classified information? Riddle me that... I bet you didn't even know he testified last week did you? Things unfold themselves...
Just cause Comey is out doesn't mean the investigation is over. You sound like the people crying over the ACA, it still hasn't even gone through the Senate...
Where do you get your fake news? Read above... And let us not mention the rigged DNC... She lost it...
So they can cry the same, Trump avoided the Russia investigation, you just used. Even if she won, you know he was gonna be ousted just for opening the investigation.
Read above...
You can keep it simple and just say you think my view is dumb next time...
Like i said above, i am not well verse on this, so i certainly cant afford to label you or judge you unfairly.
At least you should give me credit for giving you the benefit of a doubt, although my tone may not have sounded that way, sorry.
I knew about the Comey testimonies from last week, and thats why it make this actuon so suspiscious, especially combined with what we can guess another doubtful appointment...
the Russians investigation might not be dropped, but nothing says right now if they will continue... And if they do, who says they are not right now scrambling to modify the evidences...
PS: if Trump want to show some good intention and to be fair, he should appoint a FBI director who is neutral or at least from the opposite party, allow the investigation to continue without any interference. Thats why Obama did.
I absolutely love it when people say something so dumb and then something so cocky literally right after each other like this.
Obama was bawling Comey out before the election was even over, and you think people should be surprised he got canned a few months into the next administration? There was a period during the lame duck where people were wondering if Obama would even fire him himself, but you think he would have kept his job if Clinton had won after the Email circus? The only surprising thing is that Trump waited until someone else suggested it to him before doing it instead of having someone lined up from the day he took office.
Fair enough.
Your point of view makes sense but....
But i dont think Trump is as Dumb as people and the media are portraying him to be. (boy i cant believe i am saying this, i feel like i am giving him way too much credit).
Comey may not be well seen by either party, but Trump, for two reasons at least didnt fire Comey right at the beginning because (my guess):
1) he wanted to see what Comey would do about Hillary
2) couldnt just fire Comey for no reason, AND especially without any recomendations from anyone.
Trump and his circle probably were trying to line up their ducks first, which took a lot longer than they probably wanted and because of all the "drama" since he took office.
Now that he recently was able to replace the deputy attorney general, whom would do anything Trump says, somehow immediately recommends Comey oust, to make it look like it was an impartial decision on Trumps part.
If you want my guess, i think we are still seeing the decisions made and directed (orchestrated) by Steve Bannon... Trump seems to be carrying out the plan, because i dont know if Trump even has the interest to drive anything other than his golf balls or cars or his business... He just want the label of POTUS without the work...