America - The Official Thread
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Yeah, if someone needs a Politician to tell them to stay at home during a health crisis or tell them to injest cleaning solutions and actually do it deserves what happens to them.
This whole thing hasn't changed my life in a bit, I don't go out anyways, I don't like large crowds or people in general.
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Politicians do need to encourage people to stay home during a pandemic, simply because some people are either uninformed, or plain stupid. Sadly, it's not common sense for everyone. Especially when you have one side of the media that claims the lockdown is overhyped and tyrannical.
Something tells me you wouldn't have that same energy if Obama had been president and said that. Whether or not you agree with Trump's politics is irrelevant in this case, but when you have a leader of a country who literally advocated ingesting bleach, they deserved to be called out and ridiculed for it. Yes, most people, including his own supporters, aren't ignorant enough to actually do it, but that doesn't change the fact that over a hundred Americans were hospitalized for doing it. He should just keep quiet and for once, actually follow the experts' guidelines.
It hasn't changed my life much either quite frankly, but that's not a reason to not have a forced shutdown and social distancing. The "it doesn't effect me therefore I shouldn't care about it" political arguments is one of the most textbook examples of ignorance and logical fallacies.
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I mean...sure...but then I'm really not so certain there's a meaningful difference between the two in this context. The fact of the matter is that the majority of Republicans in Congress made it clear they had no intention of holding him accountable, and so the Republican majority in the Senate meant that the two-thirds requirement would not be met and he could not have been removed. That the Republicans made every effort to disrupt every step of the process rather than backing off seeing what came out is indication that he cannot be removed.
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In the meantime, Trump has fired state department IG Steve Linick, just as Linick was starting an investigation into the White House's May 2019 declaration of an emergency in order to send $8bn of weapons to Saudi Arabia.
Mike Pompeo says he had no idea of this investigation, and the timing of the firing - which the WH says is due to Linick misusing state department funds - is purely coincidental...
Mike Pompeo says he had no idea of this investigation, and the timing of the firing - which the WH says is due to Linick misusing state department funds - is purely coincidental...
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I thought Trump had encouraged his supporters to watch Fox News in the past if they want to watch an MSM that isn't "fake news". And now he's turning against them?
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Dotini
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I don't read any of these sites, but I have a question about Epoch Times, please. Aren't they primarily oriented around Taiwan and Chinese Falun Gong repression issues?
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Yup. I (obviously) don't read their newspapers, but they spend a killing on youtube ads. They've been deplatformed from FB and all other social media outlets. Even if Im watching a youtube video that's not even remotely political, like a song for example, I see their low budget ads, how supposedly the Epoch Times is the only "truly unbiased source" and "exposes the deepest government conspiracy theories". They try to hide their affiliations with the Falun Gong movement, but it can be easily traced. If I'm not wrong, they're Chinese based, but most of their readership comes from America and Canada. They're very pro-Trump, and write stories about how the Chinese Communist Party wants to manipulate the US into a subservient, communist state. Also, they're one of the many right-wing outlets that put put blatant fake news about COVID-19, them calling it the "Chinese Communist Party Virus", claiming it was "invented" by the CCP to unleash their communism across the globe.
Here is one of their ads, if you really wanna know what I mean.
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If he says "take a look at this" and snaps his fingers one more time...
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That dude does that in every single ad for the Epoch Times. There's about five of them where the entire video is "take a look at this".
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They think they're soooo clever
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They probably would seem clever to their target audience. Being that I've seen almost all of their ads on non-political videos, it's probably fair to say that they're trying to lure in apolitical people to their site. If you knew nothing about who they are, or politics in general, maybe you wouldn't hesitate in thinking that the Epoch Times is the lone wolf compared to the other biased, "fake" news sources, and that there's wild government conspiracy theories everywhere we look.They think they're soooo clever
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I'm not sure how much the Epoch Times is really in the same category as Breitbart. I am staunchly anti-Chinese government and I do believe that they are trying to manipulate the world. I'm not sure it's strictly a right-wing ideal.
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Joey D
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Ah, I guess I didn't really know that. I've only ever seen some of their anti-China articles but have never really seen anything else.
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I sometimes wonder why those that are anti-vax shouldn't just be anti-medicine of any kind. If you don't think you should take something that might prevent an illness or virus or disease, then why do you think you should take something that would cure the illness? If you don't trust one, why should you trust the other? Aren't you just not trusting medical science in general?
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- TexRex72
I've come back to this so many times, and the most reasonable (that's really not the appropriate word here but it will suffice) justification I can come up with is that there's something inherently sinister about getting stuck with a needle. Sure, those who get vaccinated tend to do so willingly, but it's probably much easier to forcibly administer something by way of a needle than it is to make someone ingest something.
