America - The Official Thread

[ryzno]

Sorry to derail the thread...



...but how does one manage to get banned so quickly? First I've seen a post from them in the nearly four years they've been registered on the site and they're gone just two hours after said post.

Probably a double/troll account or a previously banned member.

 

[dlshearon]

2020 looks like it'll end on a wild ride. Trump is publicly supporting Bernie filibustering Mitch from voting on the defense spending bill (which Trump vetoed) until Mitch calls to vote on the $2,000 stimulus legislation.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...filibuster-the-senate-over-2000-relief-checks

No doubt this is revenge for Mitch not backing Trump, but I gotta give Trump credit here; he's almost out of the office and he's found a way to put Mitch in a spot that will make him public enemy #1 & Trump the good guy.

Shinning light on just how 🤬 both parties are.

 

[Blitz24]

I believe I've read that McConnell has rejected the $2000 stimulus check on the grounds that it will cost too much money. Can't find an official source though.

 

[Keef]

I believe I've read that McConnell has rejected the $2000 stimulus check on the grounds that it will cost too much money. Can't find an official source though.

I believe that's old news. The fillibuster hasn't even started yet.

Sorry to derail the thread...



...but how does one manage to get banned so quickly? First I've seen a post from them in the nearly four years they've been registered on the site and they're gone just two hours after said post.

One of those shadow realm bans - can't even look up the dude's posts! Mods are being paid by the Chinese to hide the truth!

Speaking of which, have any of you seen the Nashville missile conspiracy? I won't link it and feed their algorithms, but it took literally like 12 hours for somebody to doctor a video and start spreading it on...you guessed it, Facebook.

 

[TexRex]

One of those shadow realm bans - can't even look up the dude's posts! Mods are being paid by the Chinese to hide the truth!

I've noticed searching for a banned user's posts yields no results, and this seems to coincide with the site's adoption of Threadloom, but if you click a user's avatar and then click their post count, you get pre-Threadloom-style search results for that user's posts by date with newest first...whether that user has been banned or not.

Threadloom has its quirks.

Speaking of which, have any of you seen the Nashville missile conspiracy? I won't link it and feed their algorithms, but it took literally like 12 hours for somebody to doctor a video and start spreading it on...you guessed it, Facebook.

The more prominent claim, however, attempted to connect the explosion in Nashville to conspiracy theories related to fraud in the 2020 election. This theory held that the U.S. government had ordered the missile strike in order to halt an audit on Dominion voting machines. We took a deeper look into this claim in our article here. In short, this “audit” is imaginary. AT&T was not conducting an audit of Dominion Voting Systems.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/missile-strike-nashville-explosion/

Much reality disconnect. Such Trumpism.

 

[Joey D]

I believe I've read that McConnell has rejected the $2000 stimulus check on the grounds that it will cost too much money. Can't find an official source though.

I believe a rapper once said: "Mitch betta have my money!" or was it "Move Mitch, get out the way?"

Also, didn't the Prodigy say something like "Smack my Mitch up"?

 

[McLaren]

Shinning light on just how 🤬 both parties are.

This whole, "the entire govt. sucks" schtick doesn't work when Democrats have been pushing for higher stimulus relief long before recently.

I believe I've read that McConnell has rejected the $2000 stimulus check on the grounds that it will cost too much money. Can't find an official source though.

No, he's claiming they want basically want to take a look at it and add some "pork and fat" to it to appease Trump. They know full well once it comes back, the Dems. will vote no.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday that the Senate will address President Trump's request to increase stimulus checks sent to Americans to $2,000 but did not commit to pushing the issue -- as Sen. Bernie Sanders and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer each urged the body to put the House bill on $2,000 stimulus checks up for quick consideration.

McConnell, R-Ky., speaking on the Senate floor acknowledged that Trump "would like further direct financial support for American households." McConnell at the same time mentioned that Trump wants Congress wants to address Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which provides protections for companies that host third-party content on their platforms -- like Facebook and Twitter -- and that Trump wants Congress to look into election security.

"Those are the three important subjects the president has linked together," McConnell said. "This week the Senate will begin a process to bring these three priorities into focus."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-blocks-2000-stimulus-checks-quick-vote

 

[polysmut]

This theory held that the U.S. government had ordered the missile strike in order to halt an audit on Dominion voting machines. We took a deeper look into this claim in our article here. In short, this “audit” is imaginary. AT&T was not conducting an audit of Dominion Voting Systems.

Wouldn't a missile strike by the US government need to be ordered by the President?

 

[Liquid]

I believe I've read that McConnell has rejected the $2000 stimulus check on the grounds that it will cost too much money. Can't find an official source though.

A completely ridiculous argument whether true or not.

 

[Joey D]

Wouldn't a missile strike by the US government need to be ordered by the President?

The President or Congress, but preferably the President would ask Congress to approve the strike.

 

[Blitz24]

Would eliminating section 230 effect what can and cannot be posted here?

 

[TexRex]

McConnell at the same time mentioned that Trump wants Congress wants to address Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which provides protections for companies that host third-party content on their platforms -- like Facebook and Twitter

Ah, yes...seeking to punish private entities for exercising their right to free expression because said private entities purportedly--but not actually--infringe on conservatives' right to free expression, through an act of Congress, which is literally, by the letter of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, infringement on the right to free expression.

Would eliminating section 230 effect what can and cannot be posted here?

The platform could be held accountable for the things users say and so the platform may be obligated to lower the threshold for moderation so as to avoid litigation.

The thinking (and I use the word very broadly here, because it's very old brain revenge stuff) is that platforms shouldn't be permitted to censor users, specifically conservatives, because of Section 230 protections, and if they're going to censor users, specifically conservatives, they shouldn't be granted Section 230 protections. In reality, the platform should both be protected from litigation over the things users, specifically conservatives, say and be able to censor the things users, specifically conservatives, say.

Edit: Forgot to add the second post before commenting on it. And then I went and inserted it in the incorrect location.

 

[UKMikey]

I believe a rapper once said: "Mitch betta have my money!" or was it "Move Mitch, get out the way?"

Also, didn't the Prodigy say something like "Smack my Mitch up"?

"I got 99 problems, and a Mitch is one."

 

[CodeRedR51]

Edit: this explains it better.

 

[McLaren]

So, McConnell has unsurprisingly reintroduced the bill to include repealing Section 230 & a bi-partisan group to look into election fraud.

But, an interesting argument being made is for the Dems to immediately agree; they'll put Section 230 back under Biden & he's already going to be President, so election fraud studies don't bother them. They think it will call McConnell's bluff and put him on a spot where he'll try to suddenly block his own proposal, something people say he's done before. Seems like a lot of faith being made on Section 230 being put back though, and no one taking opportunity of it repealed to introduce new things against it.

 

[UKMikey]

I bet he wishes he could revoke it just for liberals.

 

[Tornado]

Biden wants 230 repealed as well.

 

[TexRex]

Only the spectacularly stupid and/or profoundly petty want to see Section 230 repealed.

 

[Blitz24]

I can't see 230 being repealed helping either party.

Social media can be extremely pointless but certain sites could end up closing down their forums in order to avoid any potential litigation from annoyed individuals. By wanting more freedom in posting, what will end up happening is more censure and less availability to run anything like a message board.

On top of that? What's going to stop companies like Twitter or Facebook in paying off lobbyists and congressmen to be exceptions to the repealed rule? All that's been done now is you have the same exact situation for them but absolutely no competition.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Only the spectacularly stupid and/or profoundly petty want to see Section 230 repealed.

Or people who really love watching the stock market crash...

 

[Keef]

I can't see 230 being repealed helping either party.

It'll prevent people from freely speaking out against their transgressions on the internet. Without Section 230, social media sites will be absolutely bombarded with lawsuits and will be forced to ban users left and right and block posts with ridiculously strict keyword algorithms, etc. The days of getting on Facebook or Reddit and highlighting how big a **** Mitch McConnell is will be over as a result of social media "protecting" themselves from lawsuits. Even comments on articles will likely have to be eliminated.

 

[TexRex]

It'll prevent people from freely speaking out against their transgressions on the internet. Without Section 230, social media sites will be absolutely bombarded with lawsuits and will be forced to ban users left and right and block posts with ridiculously strict keyword algorithms, etc. The days of getting on Facebook or Reddit and highlighting how big a **** Mitch McConnell is will be over as a result of social media "protecting" themselves from lawsuits. Even comments on articles will likely have to be eliminated.

But at least free speech will be protected.

 

[Pupik]

An egg salad sandwich has no idea what it's talking about, fake news. Now a BLT will tell the absolute truth.

So the Bacon Board has corrupted you?

(Where do I sign up?)

 

[ryzno]

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/na...rned-officers-last-year-he-was-building-bombs

 

[Keef]

But at least free speech will be protected.

I think they're going to get a rude awakening when social media sites basically have a shut down.

Including Grindr, or whatever all the Trumpers are using these days.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/na...rned-officers-last-year-he-was-building-bombs

So what you're saying is the cops are to blame because they didn't do their jobs.

All they had to do was get a search warrant from a judge based on a threat of bomb making. Doesn't sound hard to do. They didn't care.

Nashville police guilty of conspiracy to commit terrorism?

In other news, earlier this afternoon in a peaceful suburb of Dayton, my buddy and his kids and parents were forced to evacuate their house due to a fully armed police perimeter which had been set up around their neighbor's house while he was on the toilet. 20+ cop cars from various agencies, ARs, riot shields, the whole nine yards. Evacuated like a 5-house radius. Apparently a call to 911 was made and gunshots were heard...turns out some dumbass kid was playing COD. Why a 911 call was made I'm not sure, but the whole damn city showed up ready for war.

On the plus side, Dayton area cops actually followed up on a potential threat, unlike Nashville cops.

 

[Joey D]

Grindr

I mean they do have the Proud Boys.

 

[TexRex]

I think they're going to get a rude awakening when social media sites basically have a shut down.

It's not unlikely it'll be little more than a nuisance for the big platforms, but small platforms can easily be hit so much harder if those protections are revoked. They may be unable to keep up with removal of user contributions that open them up to lawsuits at the same time that they're unable to defend against lawsuits, plus the inability to moderate content is likely to make the platform unwelcoming and affect traffic, which then leaves them even less equipped to manage the above due to loss of revenue.

It's amazing to me that one of those petty, pathetic Trumpkins advocated for revocation of those protections on this particular small platform.

So what you're saying is the cops are to blame because they didn't do their jobs.

But some would have you believe that law enforcement agencies aren't in need of reform.

 

[Keef]

But some would have you believe that law enforcement agencies aren't in need of reform.

A few days ago in Flavortown it only took a cop a few seconds to decide to shoot a black guy in the back.

The don't do their jobs when they should but they do it when they shouldn't.

 

[TexRex]

A few days ago in Flavortown it only took a cop a few seconds to decide to shoot a black guy in the back.

And I understand there was reasonable justification for his removal going quite a ways back, in which case Hill may still be alive.

 

[McLaren]

Watching them debate this on the floor is infuriating. Some of the Republican arguments against the checks has been that govt. employees (that's a repeated example, govt. employees) haven't been suffering, but would get checks. That wealthy households will get relief even though there's a cutoff and the more you make past a set amount, the less you get with a given example that a person who makes $100K, regardless of whether they've lost income, would get $700 and that's a bridge too far. Another argument that the Dems blocked relief proposals months ago, but conveniently leaving out that their proposals included more poison pills/things that benefit no one but major corporations. And of course, the vaccine is here, so no need for a stimulus, we'll be back to normal soon; ignore that the majority of us will have no shot at a vaccine for months, esp. since they're rolling out slower than they should be.

Edit: John Cornyn makes Texas look like even more of a joke, and that should be impossible after he showed off that disgusting thing he called a Texas brisket.