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Conservatives keep pushing the idea that the Democrats have moved ever further to the left. Notably, even self-styled "Libertarians" like to promote this viewpoint:


Consider the cabinet members of Biden's administration: no Bernie Sanders, no AOC, and more to the point no Rachel Maddow, no Keith Olbermann. Then look at the clown car full of right-wing sycophants, degenerates and incompetents being pushed into cabinet positions in the Trump administration.
 
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For Education Secretary, an office he seeks to abolish, Trump wants to install Linda McMahon. Her only experience for the role is that she has a falsified degree in education studies. Wait for someone to actually call that out.

Incidentally, despite Linda and her husband not cohabiting for several years, I expect Trump to pre-emptively pardon Vince McMahon in his federal sex trafficking case, which would be a gross abuse of power and another shroud enabling the wealthy to abuse, and evade the law.
Is there anyone in Trump's cabinet who is not in some degree associated with sex trafficking? Seems like its a pre requisite to get a gig with the GOP at this point.
 
Kristi Noem just shoots puppies.
Incorrect.

She's also on meth.

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Conservatives keep pushing the idea that the Democrats have moved ever further to the left. Notably, even self-styled "Libertarians" like to promote this viewpoint:


Consider the cabinet members of Biden's administration: no Bernie Sanders, no AOC, and more to the point no Rachel Maddow, no Keith Olbermann. Then look at the clown car full of right-wing sycophants, degenerates and incompetents being pushed into cabinet positions in the Trump administration.
There's some pretty bad takes all around. My read is this:

People were upset with Joe Biden about pandemic-era social restrictions and with pandemic-stimulus-induced inflation and Trump ran a pretty effective campaign capturing young males. I don't see it as the wholesale repudiation of liberalism that some others do, because I don't think most voters are informed enough to make that decision consciously.
 
There's some pretty bad takes all around. My read is this:

People were upset with Joe Biden about pandemic-era social restrictions and with pandemic-stimulus-induced inflation and Trump ran a pretty effective campaign capturing young males. I don't see it as the wholesale repudiation of liberalism that some others do, because I don't think most voters are informed enough to make that decision consciously.
No. Wrong. The result absolutely validates my stilted view.
 
People were upset with Joe Biden about pandemic-era social restrictions
You mean Trump era social restrictions.
and with pandemic-stimulus-induced inflation
...and Trump era stimulus induced inflation.
Trump ran a pretty effective campaign capturing young males.
Young males sure do like Ave Maria.
I don't see it as the wholesale repudiation of liberalism that some others do, because I don't think most voters are informed enough to make that decision consciously.
Voting for an asshole bully specifically because he's an asshole bully who you think will bully the people you want is not exactly an endorsement of liberalism.
 
You mean Trump era social restrictions.

...and Trump era stimulus induced inflation.

Young males sure do like Ave Maria.

Voting for an asshole bully specifically because he's an asshole bully who you think will bully the people you want is not exactly an endorsement of liberalism.
I didn't say they were right. :lol:
 
I didn't say they were right. :lol:
Well you presented it as logical, and I don't think it was.

You were basically appealing to the notion of a rational, logical voter who was motivated by predictable things and came to a reasoned conclusion. It is a huge mistake, and it's rampant right now. This was not a logical, reasoned conclusion. If it were, Trump was not the choice. Social restrictions were under Trump. Pandemic stimulus was under Trump. Vaccine development was under Trump. Male voters should reasonably have been extremely put off by Trump. None of it makes any sense. Until you toss rational and logical.

People voted for Trump because he's an ass, and they think that's strong. They voted for him because they do not understand leadership. And it's these exact same things that are a rejection of liberalism. So your conclusion about whether voters are rebuking the concept of liberalism is wrong. Wanting someone to bully the people you do not like is not liberalism.
 
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