American Le Mans Series Season 2 (COMPLETED)

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When do we qualify?

  • Night of, right before the race

    Votes: 21 51.2%

  • A different night before the race

    Votes: 20 48.8%
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So, back to the actual GT5 series chat, is this the last race of the season this friday? does anyone have an idea on points? Seems this series has fallen apart.
 
tissimo
So, back to the actual GT5 series chat, is this the last race of the season this friday? does anyone have an idea on points? Seems this series has fallen apart.
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Pretty much what I said a few pages back, and that's why I won't be back for a season 3. Neglecting the series like gatrs has is just not on and I'd rather not be a part of it anymore.

Points? Yeah have fun with that....gatrs said he'd update it after the season but that's just not very handy at all.
 
rocko100
There's no good races here :( quite ironic considering it's the Automobile capital of the world :(
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Well not really , just because we live in MI dosent meant that there should be good races or tracks. Most of michigans tracks are so engineers can test the cars performance before they give it a go to be put on the market.
 
Guys, there will be a delay to the start of season three.
When I get my PS3 back, I'll need to do some testing/homologation.
If you guys would like to run weekly test runs, to figure out which class combos you like the best, please do so. 👍
 
tissimo
does anyone have an idea on points? Seems this series has fallen apart.
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Sorry guys, I was keeping a spreadsheet for the first few races, but I've gotten really busy lately. I'm back in school now though, so I will try to update it when I get the chance. It's also more likely that I'll be able to race now... if the stupid understeer on GT cars doesn't drive me away.
 
Might not even make the season finale race...going to be going out Friday night so no promises I'll be up and ready to go Saturday morning.
 
MitchZ06
I'm looking forward to 2013-2014 when McLaren finally brings out their own GT/Prototype to go for top honours :D
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wait.............. McLaren are coming to LeMans with a prototype???? or you mean just the 12C GT2
 
I don't see them going to lmp and gt. GT already has a foot in the water. In order for them to do lmp the regs will have to be super attractive. Maybe in line with common engine regs for 2014 F1.
 
Indy supposed to get different engines next year too :D instead of just using Honda they will use Chevy, Honda, and Lotus, (and I think someone else too idk)
 
freshseth83
What time and what regs?
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I'm going to a bbq shortly but must be back at my place by 8pm EST American (a little less than 2 hours) to give my cat his insulin shot. Don't ask. :crazy:

So how about 8:30 or 9pm? I'd rather do it like 8:30 but I'll come back and post a room number when I'm in, sometime very close to that time slot. That okay?

Also F430 stock, all stock including tires. Was gonna do GT challenge regs but it got erased so I don't know them plus there's such limited time to adjust suspensions etc. it wouldn't be fair.
 
freshseth83
I don't see them going to lmp and gt. GT already has a foot in the water. In order for them to do lmp the regs will have to be super attractive. Maybe in line with common engine regs for 2014 F1.
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You don't know or have an idea of what the 2013/2014 regs will be though ;)
GTE will happen with privateers (the GT3 car was designed as a GTE car first) and LMP will be a factory effort.
Common engine regs with 2014 F1 won't happen, a screaming turbo V6 just doesn't have the stamina to last 24 hours.


But back to the series at hand, I will be racing :D
 
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Hey will have a room up shortly. Is the F430 on the online recommended list?

Otherwise can someone gift me one and I'll gift it back after? I'm short on cash :(
 
alright guys sold a few cars and got the F430 '06. Grab one and come on in.

Room is # 1472-6118-3744-3751-9936

EDIT: no one has showed up yet. If no one comes by 9:10 or 9:15 I'm gonna postpone the race.
 
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MitchZ06
You don't know or have an idea of what the 2013/2014 regs will be though ;)
GTE will happen with privateers (the GT3 car was designed as a GTE car first) and LMP will be a factory effort.
Common engine regs with 2014 F1 won't happen, a screaming turbo V6 just doesn't have the stamina to last 24 hours.


But back to the series at hand, I will be racing :D
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Any American companies to put out an LMP?
 
MitchZ06
You don't know or have an idea of what the 2013/2014 regs will be though ;)
GTE will happen with privateers (the GT3 car was designed as a GTE car first) and LMP will be a factory effort.
Common engine regs with 2014 F1 won't happen, a screaming turbo V6 just doesn't have the stamina to last 24 hours.


But back to the series at hand, I will be racing :D
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I think I have a general idea of what will be happening. So far McLaren has shown little interest. As far as the technical regulations meeting that took place Toyota and other manufacturers seemed to be making themselves look interested. And the FIA will run the WEC, it also runs F1. The engine regulations for F1 will have plenty in common with LeMans tech. Energy recuperation, not the flimsy KERS, turbocharging, V6 engines, fuel flow limitations- all discussed within LeMans as well. Engines now last 4 races, practice sessions, qualifying sessions. To say they wouldn't last 24 hours is a bit premature depending on how the ruling on the future engines will play out in F1.

Besides that, sorry I couldn't make it tonight. Had to cook dinner. I got the message from mocking, but I had to get off.
 
freshseth83
So far McLaren has shown little interest
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Only on the outside...

freshseth83
As far as the technical regulations meeting that took place Toyota and other manufacturers seemed to be making themselves look interested.
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Toyota is coming back with a Dome/Factory hybrid petrol, that's a fact.
Nissan could be getting more serious, possibly Leaf battery tech in a V8 petrol hybrid.
HPD may also be returning with a P1 Wirth coupe.
Peugeot won't be going anywhere.
Same for Audi even with Porsche.
The king returns in Porsche for 2014.
Ferrari, oh yes. P2 coupe run by Risi ;).

freshseth83
And the FIA will run the WEC.
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This is garbarge, completely. No, the FIA will not run the WEC, that's what the ACO will be doing. The FIA is only involved in name as the FIA controls the 'World Championship' name series' like the Intercontinental Le Mans Cup (average Joe would have absolutely NFI what the ILMC is but an FIA World Endurance Championship would create instant interest) want and need. The ACO wanted to call the ILMC a World Championship but needed the FIA onboard to be able to do so.

freshseth83
The engine regulations for F1 will have plenty in common with LeMans tech. Energy recuperation, not the flimsy KERS, turbocharging, V6 engines, fuel flow limitations- all discussed within LeMans as well. Engines now last 4 races, practice sessions, qualifying sessions. To say they wouldn't last 24 hours is a bit premature depending on how the ruling on the future engines will play out in F1.
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An F1 engine revs out to 19/20k rpm and is designed for the shorter races, no matter what teams say they still need a rebuild after every race. Energy recuperation is KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System)...it'll just be opened up at some point to allow other forms of energy recovery (waste gases during off throttle periods where the turbo spins a generator).

V6 engines really has nothing to do with there being a link between Le Mans and F1, V8 is where it's at for reliability (yes, except for the kings of reliability Audi) and there's no chance of it leaving sports prototypes.

F1 will have nothing to do with Le Mans in 2014 other than some shared tech (like energy recycling systems). 2014 will see almost a return to Group C days where the rules are opened up and fuel economy is the name of the game. We'll see teams given a certain amount of fuel to get thru the race (2000L for diesel, 3000L for petrol roughly) and this will open the way for hybrids to rule the LMP categories.

Please, leave the F1 talk where it belongs...and that's not in sportscar racing.
 
Mitch you have little clue what you're talking about on some issues. F1 engines of the future will only rev to 15k rpm, be single turbo with energy recuperating technology. Future LeMans engines are following the same trend, downsizing and energy recovering turbo'd, both will be a fuel limited formula. If you take time you'll see the common traits. The fact that the FIA are involved brings about the "WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP". Theyre running the show, never said theyre in charge, thats the ACO like you said. You basically just proved my point. There is going to be common tech between the two. Leave your disdain towards F1 out for a minute and you'd see the connection I was making. And 1 more thing, Toyota wont necessarily use DOME, they TESTED A DOME. TMG has its own facilities to make a car from scratch, they don't need a previously built chassis or chassis maker.

anyway, I'll be on tonight so expect me there.
 
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