Anniversary Of 9/11

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:ouch: My 6 year old son just walked up to me with a picture of a big plane flying into a tall building.

Anyone consider that a win for Bin Laden?
 
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:ouch: My 6 year old son just walked up to me with a picture of a big plane flying into a tall building.

Anyone consider that a win for Bin Laden?
Depends on whether or not he was smiling and laughing I suppose.
 
Me and my friend actually had a discussion on this, and he brought up a good point.

My other friend said that the Jihad warned of a fake threat, and my friend was quick to point out that an attack doesn't have to be explosions and people dying. That's the most common, but terrorism is about instilling terror in the minds of people, and with the threats, they worried many people. That's another reason why security has been high, is because we're scared of something bad happening. Just saying they were going to attack set 90% of the country on edge.

Thought I'd just point it out.

I doubt terrorists refer to themselves as terrorist, as how murderers won't refer to themselves as murderers.

I don't condone what those individuals have done, no far from it, I despise the acts that they do.

But the conundrum is that when one person is labeled as a terrorist, it gives them the power to wield fear over others. My neighbors are deathly afraid of those types of hooligans, but when I say you shouldn't fear such tactics they look at me as if I'm crazy. What good is life if you live in fear of something that is inevitable for everyone (Death)? I for one would like to say that every "terrorist" is in fact a criminal of the law.

I would rather have had Osama brought to NYC for criminal prosecution, to show the other "terrorists" that they are no more special nor are they more scary than a criminal. If America really wants to show that we have no fear of such individuals, shut down Gitmo, transfer them to our federal prisons, and let our courts do their thing.
 
Tomorrow is both a happy and sad day in my family household.

It is a happy day because my nephew is turning 7 years old.

It is a sad day due to what happened 11 years ago.

The part that really hurts my stomach is that he doesn't know of 9/11 and I would never want to tell him about it or hear that he heard about it.
 
The part that really hurts my stomach is that he doesn't know of 9/11 and I would never want to tell him about it or hear that he heard about it.

It's a major part of world history, it needs to be talked about.

I think one of the first times I've realized that I am getting older is when my 8 year old cousin said they learned about it in school and asked me what it was like that day. My story start off "well I was in high school..." then I realized it was (at that time) 10 years ago.
 
It's a major part of world history, it needs to be talked about.

I think one of the first times I've realized that I am getting older is when my 8 year old cousin said they learned about it in school and asked me what it was like that day. My story start off "well I was in high school..." then I realized it was (at that time) 10 years ago.

Oh I know he will learn about it eventually, but I hope its not told to him in a sudden way. His mother worked in the towers not too long after the '94 bombing and was in Boston during 2001.
 
Last year, my wife woke up early that Sunday morning, and watched the ceremony with some sadness. My not-yet-five-year-old daughter woke up, and asked what's wrong?

We basically had to tell her that "some bad things happened, and it was sad...but people want to remember why they felt sad, so they can start to feel better again."

Daughter: "Oh." (She watched with us for a few minutes, and seemingly left it at that.)

I wonder what they're doing in school tomorrow; hopefully and most assuredly, there won't be scenes of destruction and chaos described to kindergartners, but a little part of me is kind of concerned, but yet relieved for another year. One day, she'll be ready to begin to understand the magnitude of that day.
 
On my way to work the song In a New York minute was on the radio. Got me emotional. Still has actually....

Damn that was such a changing moment...
 
Much love to everyone involved that day. Lets hope the world never has to deal with something like that again!
 
We remember ..... everyday we remember.
Every day I remember that all those people who died would be proud of their country for over-extending itself around the world, attacking weak nations that pose no threat to us, tightening government security harassing innocent people, ever-increasing authoritarian domestic policy, and then of course there's the mounds of debt piled on by the pointless and unconstitutional wars that is contributing to the strangulation of this country's economy and the people within it.

Every day I remember how the older generations that I'm supposed to look up to for guidance overreacted and let the terrorists win, and how it's up to me and my peers to educate people who've been misguided by the system, and to fight against the system that did it. We try our best not to belittle those who have made mistakes, unlike their attitude toward people with differing opinions.
 
i watched it in my study hall freshman year. I remember it like it was yesterday. Didn't even think it was real at first. Parents got stuck in myrtle beach for a few days because all the flights were grounded.

Like keef said, a lot of totalitarian security measures have been added to our lives since then too.

every day i remember that all those people who died would be proud of their country for over-extending itself around the world, attacking weak nations that pose no threat to us, tightening government security harassing innocent people, ever-increasing authoritarian domestic policy, and then of course there's the mounds of debt piled on by the pointless and unconstitutional wars that is contributing to the strangulation of this country's economy and the people within it.

Every day i remember how the older generations that i'm supposed to look up to for guidance overreacted and let the terrorists win, and how it's up to me and my peers to educate people who've been misguided by the system, and to fight against the system that did it. We try our best not to belittle those who have made mistakes, unlike their attitude toward people with differing opinions.

+1
 
I don't remember it too vividly, I was pretty young (just before my 7th birthday). I remember being outside at recess and hearing teachers talking about "the twin towers". When we went in for class, our teacher told us the "twin towers" were hit by planes, and one (at that time) had collapsed. The rest of the day went by as usual (I still had no idea what "the twin towers" were). I went home and thought I'd look on TV to see what happened, and then I saw the footage of New York up in smoke. I remember asking my dad why it happened, and he said something about bad people trying to hurt America. I watched the footage and I remember feeling upset about it, it just seemed like something that shouldn't happen in North America. It was a strange day and the course of my life was changed after that day. I've grown up in a post 9/11 world, and seen all of the security, the PATRIOT act, and as I've gotten older the gravity of it all really hits home much more than it did when I was 6 years old.
 
I was 14 at the time, my mum and me were travelling from one end of the country to the next as we were moving house and we were on our way to check out our new place a week before we moved, it was a long journey catching 3 different train and mum saw the news on tv in a station pub (i was outside on the platform) and i was stunned when she told me! (i knew what the twin towers were, but not the pentagon..) and when were finally got there, we both watched it on tv and afterwards i was convinced that terrorists would attack Britain the next day..

..that obviously didnt happen, but we did tragically suffer just less than four years later...

R.I.P
 
I can remember the day pretty vividly. I was quite young but I had finished school and just got back from the dentist and sat in front of the tele, and the news was on every channel showing the 2 towers ablaze.

I knew the gravity of the situation, despite my age, but when you could see the people jumping from the towers my Mum turned the downstairs tele off. I went upstairs to watch it in my room, I can still remember when the towers collapsed, the reporters just went silent, and I sat their wide eyed not quite believing what I was watching.

11 years ago, how time flies.

R.I.P to the 2977
 
I was in the sixth grade when this happened. Now I'm in my fourth year of undergrad. Wow how time flies when we grow. RIP those lives needlessly lost.

It was definitely the Pearl Harbor of our generation.
 
I'm a father of three... Only had two at the time. I was not working that morning and had just turned on ESPN. My wife, after taking the kids to school, Burst into the house from the garage and demanded I turn on CNN or the Today show, etc. She looked absolutely terrified.

I watched for nearly the entire day. Simply stunned. In retrospect, 9/11 is my generations Kennedy Assasination, the aforementioned Pearl Harbor, even D-Day, or Titanic. One will always remember where you were when you heard, as well as those horrific first images.

After the first tower fell, I was compelled to display my American flag on the front of the house. I was probably the first in the neighborhood to do that, and many followed of course.

Since the event I have gobbled up every piece of information I can find on the topic. Books, documentaries, magazines, websites. I'm simply fascinated by it all and will be forever.

I doing so, one comes across the ever growing list of people who firmly believe that something OTHER that what we saw on tv actually happened. How this event became a haven for conspiracy theorists is beyond my comprehension. I saw a video the other day of a woman (who was sure enough of herself to NOT show her face) who claimed that there were no jumpers that day while the Towers were burning. Her proof? Famous photos of the jumpers in midair, blown up several thousand percent... "Look how pixelated these are! Clearly a cut and paste job!". It was incredibly sad. If you blew up a photo of the Mona Lisa 10,000% I could argue it was a painting of a Black Matte Samba bus.

All of the "Inside Job" "The Government Knew" "It wasnt hot enough fire to make them collapse" "All images/videos of the planes were holograms" "Truthers"... Absolute Clowns. Never ran across one that wasn't.



As for new "intrusions" into my rights and life? I don't care if they want to search me 5 times at the airport, establish regulations for purchasing products, increase paperwork required for anything from the License Branch, to Travel, to buying a box of Twinkies. I'm more than wiling to do that and more. I have nothing to hide, ask away and do what you have to do to keep us all a little safer... Or a LOT safer. Those who resist, claiming "infringement" need to check themselves - are you really Americans? Do you think Washinton, Jefferson, Lincoln, etc would have opposed, say, strict harbor regulations if a foreign land had killed people by sea in an equally horrific event during their time? Hel no they wouldn't, they would have came down on them hard, and established new rules while letting the country know that new regulations WILL save lives, please get over it, and if you don't like it Canada is that way, Mexico is the other way.

The #2 man in Al Queida was blown to bits yesterday. Well done to those in the military. Next in line, step up. You're now targeted along with all your pals and we won't stop until you're either all gone or your threats cease forever.
 
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^Then America better be ready to bleed more while drawing more blood from the enemy. This isn't communism nor dictatorships that we faced before. This is religious fanaticism and furor that no average American can even get close to comprehend. This is an enemy that knows no fear of death.

We are facing a beast that cannot be defeated through rifles, jets, and bombs alone. In fact all it does is give them more excuses to the Taliban and other loonies to continue their war.

This is a subject matter that may take decades or maybe even a generation to resolve.
 
Ive watched a few documentries since then as well, including the 'conspiricy' ones which are completly far-fetched and stupid, the one that really scared me was '102 minutes that changed America' that showed on the History channell a few years ago, it was the attacks being shot by people who were there filmed it on theyre camcorders, the whole thing is in real time seen through the video cameras lens and also includes police and firefighters radio chatter..

..it scared me bacause it made me feel that i was there and filming it at the time, feeling some of the fear that they felt that day...i was shaking and trembling after watching it!
 
"The Government Knew"

If you don't think that the US government didn't at least have a suspicion something was going to happen then you should be afraid of your country. Our country has resources to figure out anything we want, we just choose to ignore things. I'm not saying it was an inside government job or even some wild conspiracy theory, all I'm saying is that US Intelligence knew that an attack was being planned.

As for new "intrusions" into my rights and life? I don't care if they want to search me 5 times at the airport, establish regulations for purchasing products, increase paperwork required for anything from the License Branch, to Travel, to buying a box of Twinkies. I'm more than wiling to do that and more. I have nothing to hide, ask away and do what you have to do to keep us all a little safer... Or a LOT safer. Those who resist, claiming "infringement" need to check themselves - are you really Americans? Do you think Washinton, Jefferson, Lincoln, etc would have opposed, say, strict harbor regulations if a foreign land had killed people by sea in an equally horrific event during their time? Hel no they wouldn't, they would have came down on them hard, and established new rules while letting the country know that new regulations WILL save lives, please get over it, and if you don't like it Canada is that way, Mexico is the other way.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
 
don't make it an debate, just pay your respect to those innocent people and let our thoughts be with their friends and family at a time which must be very distressing. We can't change what happened, but we can help the people it affected. Arguing won't solve anything.
 
Yup, I know I'll never forget that day, following it on the BBC website, it still brings a lump to my throat to watch stuff about it on TV.

:(

I went to the memorial back in May when I was in the states on business, and I'd been to World Trade Plaza in 2000, it really is just horrendous to think about it.

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Barely remember it, just remembered hearing about it the day after in school, in the second youngest class of Primary(Elementary) school, can't remember if it was mentioned when I was at home. Probably didn't know what really had happened until a few more years when I would be around 10 or 11 I guess, but even now, it's really hard to believe what happened and just how bad it would have been. It must have been really scary after that and the attacks really did change the world.


It was definitely the Pearl Harbor of our generation.

Worse than Pearl Harbor I'd say.
 
We shall never forget. Not only those who were in the tower when the planes hit but also those who were killed trying to save them.



I was in NY a couple of months ago and visited the memorial. Here is a pic I took, almost the same angle as the one above.

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We shall never forget. Not only those who were in the tower when the planes hit but also those who were killed trying to save them.

^^^^^ The fire fighters and other rescue service people went into the towers knowing there's a chance they'd never come out. Sacrificing their lives to save others. The courage shown, its what seperates us from the animals.
 
I was a sophmore in high school that day. I was walking to my 2nd period class when someone told me a bomb blew up at the Pentagon. When I got to my 2nd period, the TV was on CNN, with the towers smoking. They had us stay in our 2nd period class for about 2 hours, with the news on in every classroom. Not very much was said, everyone was just glued to the TV. Watching both towers fall on live TV is something I'll never forget. Only then did I realize the gravity of what happened. Many kids left school early at the request of their parents. It was a very eerie day.
 
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

" I need an additional document to get my passport or other identification? I need to go home and get it and come back? Not convenient, but no problem."
- Ben Franklin XXI

"Feel Free to scan me with any wand you want when I check in at the airport. I'll gladly discard my half drank bottled water before boarding even though it cost $3 and I'm thirsty. I lose no liberty doing so"
-His intelligent wife


Don't even begin to compare Revolitionary desire to escape British suppression to post 9/11 "intrusions." It's not even apples to oranges... That's apples to diapers, with one being "full of it."



^Then America better be ready to bleed more while drawing more blood from the enemy. This isn't communism nor dictatorships that we faced before. This is religious fanaticism and furor that no average American can even get close to comprehend. This is an enemy that knows no fear of death.

We are facing a beast that cannot be defeated through rifles, jets, and bombs alone. In fact all it does is give them more excuses to the Taliban and other loonies to continue their war.

Twice this nation played a major role in bailing out a continent far far away from here. It's the "home of the brave" Sir. The current religious extremists are no more passionate or dedicated than kamikaze Japanese or those on Iwo Jima. I'm not claiming to comprehend the fanaticism of the current enemy, but claiming its something the world has never seen is slightly melodramatic in my opinion.
 
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