Any update on selling cars yet?

[Eggstor]

To be fair, I expect the 24-hour mission to require mid-race saving feature being coded so I'll give a slack for that part. But again, with months of some of these (mainly car selling) not yet fully delivered or only delivered in the month after that incident, things seem to be awfully close to the Intellivision Keyboard Component scandal in which Mattel was fined $10,000/month by the FTC in 1982 until it was fully retailed.

If it's as Nenkai presented, your Intellivision suit looks to be deader than a doornail.

 

[BangsMcCoy]

Imagine if they come up with the values for selling using their same logic of how PP is determined.

 

[ErikRPM]

In earlier versions. I want to say GT4 and earlier but I could be wrong. There were events where you could win money and a car as a prize and then sell the car that you won. It even had B Spec mode where your driver could run the race automatically for you and win you a car which you could sell. It was the easiest way to make money back then. You've also add daily prize cars that you could sell and even gift to PSN friends.

My spec b racer was named Jean-Luc Picard, he was one hell of a driver!

 

[Yard_Sale]

Imagine if they come up with the values for selling using their same logic of how PP is determined.

My hunch (wishful thinking), is that resale values will be tied to how many of said car have been sold in the USD/LCD. Surely PD can track how many people are buying which cars. This could then factor into dynamic pricing for both the player's resale value, along with Gran Turismo's UCD.





To take this concept one step further...


Say a bunch of people are reselling 98' Integra type R's. PD could make an algorithm that takes the average miles accrued, mods made, etc.

THEN....

Next time the Integra shows up in the UCD, it might be in need of an engine and/or chassis refresh. Hell, it might come with a couple mods too.





.....Which would cause those who bought (and kept) unmolested examples of the Integra early in the game, for their cars to be worth more. Same would go IF an unmolested Integra Type R shows up in the UCD later; it'll be worth more because it is stock.

 

[05XR8]

My hunch (wishful thinking), is that resale values will be tied to how many of said car have been sold in the USD/LCD. Surely PD can track how many people are buying which cars. This could then factor into dynamic pricing for both the player's resale value, along with Gran Turismo's UCD.





To take this concept one step further...


Say a bunch of people are reselling 98' Integra type R's. PD could make an algorithm that takes the average miles accrued, mods made, etc.

THEN....

Next time the Integra shows up in the UCD, it might be in need of an engine and/or chassis refresh. Hell, it might come with a couple mods too.





.....Which would cause those who bought (and kept) unmolested examples of the Integra early in the game, for their cars to be worth more. Same would go IF an unmolested Integra Type R shows up in the UCD later; it'll be worth more because it is stock.

That would be crazy, but cool to see a car once owned in the UCD. It would make it harder to get the stock standard car you're looking for(especially in a preferred color).

In reality, the ROI of modded cars isn’t that great IRL. So it makes sense that the added value of modded cars is going to be nerfed. I’ll be curious to see how wide-bodies of classic cars in GT7 will fare.

I'm interested to see this too. I would imagine a widebody on a classic car would actually decrease its value, but it is always possible PD might make the widebody increase car value.

...And we can't undo the widebody. I wonder about placing a new engine and new body, still, with the widebody. Might make it easy for someone to buy with that upgrade - on some expensive cars.

Interesting indeed.

 

[Eggstor]

My hunch (wishful thinking), is that resale values will be tied to how many of said car have been sold in the USD/LCD. Surely PD can track how many people are buying which cars. This could then factor into dynamic pricing for both the player's resale value, along with Gran Turismo's UCD.





To take this concept one step further...


Say a bunch of people are reselling 98' Integra type R's. PD could make an algorithm that takes the average miles accrued, mods made, etc.

THEN....

Next time the Integra shows up in the UCD, it might be in need of an engine and/or chassis refresh. Hell, it might come with a couple mods too.





.....Which would cause those who bought (and kept) unmolested examples of the Integra early in the game, for their cars to be worth more. Same would go IF an unmolested Integra Type R shows up in the UCD later; it'll be worth more because it is stock.

Interesting theory. That could be why the RNGs that control(led) the UCD have been broken since at least May 30.

 

[05XR8]

I wonder if ticking the box on the wishlist, alerts PD to the demand for certain cars. That's another way to track who wants what and when to offer for sale.

Very interesting. If the market is flooded with Mazda Demios and Honda Fits, the price goes down. If only, say, a handful of Alfa 155s are put up for sale, the price goes up. Maybe half price if it's originally 1/5. I don't know. Just thinking about it.

 

[Baka_Marimo]

Previous games was 1/4. 1/5th is still better than absolutely nothing, so I can take and accept that. 1/5th of a 20 million car is still 4 million credits.

In GT Sport the resell value is actually 30%, so almost 1/3 and quite a lot more than 1/5. That's just one more aspect that gets worse in GT7, should all this information turn out to be true.

 

[TonyLomas]

My spec b racer was named Jean-Luc Picard, he was one hell of a driver!

I just called mine The Stig (my tamed racing driver) from the TV show Top Gear.

 

[nickf1gr]

Now we are talking about the most comprehensive thing - THE POSSIBILITY TO SELL OUR CARS, but not at humiliating prices, such as a car worth 1 million cr. selling for 10,000 cr...
We want more decent prices to trade. No more twitter posts to mock us with the cars that costs millions.
THIS IS A GAME WITH CARS NOT A REAL LIFE!!!
COME ON PD
COME ON KAZ

 

[KAlex122]

PDs tweet about the "guess the price of this grid" is absolutely fascinating. How far of any worldly sense of logic must they be to think that could be something positive. They clearly know nothing and read nothing of substance from their customers and fans.

 

[Eggstor]

PDs tweet about the "guess the price of this grid" is absolutely fascinating. How far of any worldly sense of logic must they be to think that could be something positive. They clearly know nothing and read nothing of substance from their customers and fans.

Considering the 19 cars featured in that tweet that were available before the 1.20 update/August price increase (19 of 20 the most-expensive Hagerty's cars at the time, with the Corvette Concept replacing the 2,000,000 Cr. more-expensive D-type) were 203,150,000 Cr. at launch, were 208,200,000 Cr. between June and August and are/will be on their next appearances 224,650,000 Cr., and that the new-to-1.20 McLaren MP4/4 is 8,000,000 Cr., they're worse than clueless.

 

[Sunzi]

Don't agree with the duplicate only option to sell, but if a core concept of the game is to collect cars i.e collector level, cafe menus + extra cafe menus etc. Then this implementation makes sense TBF.

 

[Famine]

PDs tweet

Nup.

Remember, Sony - the publisher - handles all external comms. This particular function is contracted out to a third party social media specialist agency.


I can't see the merit in Tweeting about how the car-selling mechanism will work right now, with at least two weeks (if not three) until the next update and first possible appearance of the function.

At best fans are wound up for two weeks - and at worst if it doesn't turn up in September's update, the reaction will be... bad.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

Don't agree with the duplicate only option to sell, but if a core concept of the game is to collect cars i.e collector level, cafe menus + extra cafe menus etc. Then this implementation makes sense TBF.

It still sucks though. Imagine you buy an expensive car, only to find out you don't like it and would rather sell it for something else. Well too bad, you're stuck with it.

This is, of course, a problem that could be solved with a simple test drive feature. Take any car to any track, but it won't count toward mileage or pay anything. Easy. But considering we don't have this feature and Polyphony have given no indication that it will be coming at any point in the future, it's best to assume we won't get it, and so car selling should not keep the restriction of keeping at least one of every car.

 

[HarVee]

I'm in that boat where I've bought several expensive cars just to find that I don't like them. Not to mention all the cars that Luca gave me that I hardly ever use outside a select few. But it looks as if I'll still be stuck with them despite having a sell feature. Odd.

I fail to understand why PD can't make it where your collection book records remain but you can sell any car you want. I get that coding is difficult, but I down right cannot believe that their code is this difficult to work with. It's like they're trying to untangle spaghetti noodles one by one while forgetting about the dishes signature sauce. I can't say for others but I know for fact spaghetti without a sauce just isn't tasty.

 

[05XR8]

I’m still scratching my head why we can’t delete the game and start from scratch, like what’s possible in GT Sport. I mean, yes, I’d still have the cars I don’t want due to the Menu path, but I’d like to try different ways of accumulating Cr. and what cars I choose, each new game. Something I’ve been doing since GT1.

 

[Yard_Sale]

I’m still scratching my head why we can’t delete the game and start from scratch, like what’s possible in GT Sport. I mean, yes, I’d still have the cars I don’t want due to the Menu path, but I’d like to try different ways of accumulating Cr. and what cars I choose, each new game. Something I’ve been doing since GT1.

Create an alt account

 

[KAlex122]

Create an alt account

I for example already have to alt accounts and still would like to be able to experience it from scratch...

But yeah, its all you can do.

 

[05XR8]

Create an alt account

I have two others running in GT7. Had many more in GT Sport. Not trying to dothat again with this game.

I mainly wanted to use alts to gift cars to myself. Seeing we don't have that option like past games, an alt is not useful.

 

[shadow0460]

Maybe a car rental would be more appropriate, perhaps 1 or 2% of the purchase price per day. It might also help sell micro transactions.

 

[Bobby-Vegas]

MTX's, corporate buttholes want your real money. I'll be surprised if it ever happens. Prove me wrong PD/Sony

 

[AutumnalGlow]

MTX's, corporate buttholes want your real money. I'll be surprised if it ever happens. Prove me wrong PD/Sony

Considering they specifically said it would come, and that we have a known dataminer telling us various details about how it'll work because it's already in the code, it's coming soon.

Yes, company is greedy, this is always true. That's why they've placed so many limitations on selling. But still, selling will come soon enough.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Damnit PD, have you never played Pokemon? If you evolve or release a Pokemon, the Pokedex entry stays with you!

Slight caveat - it's the information that's retained, not the Pokemon itself.

 

[Baka_Marimo]

Slight caveat - it's the information that's retained, not the Pokemon itself.

I know. I was rather hoping no one would catch that small but important difference

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

Not sure if any of you are following Nenkai's thread, but it appears as though used car selling's going to be more than just hit sell and be done.

Full on appraisal from his twitter thread. I really hope they don't go too realistic and have you prop a car up outside your garage and wait for the bait like Sega GT 2002 LOL.

 

[05XR8]

Not sure if any of you are following Nenkai's thread, but it appears as though used car selling's going to be more than just hit sell and be done.

Full on appraisal from his twitter thread. I really hope they don't go too realistic and have you prop a car up outside your garage and wait for the bait like Sega GT 2002 LOL.

Well, uhhhh….

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

Well, uhhhh….
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tfw someone buys your RX8 for 100,000 but will only offer 55,000 for the swift

 

[05XR8]

I’m waiting to see if we get alerts about our sold cars while racing. Smashing into a barrier, as we cringe at the appalling sell price.

Having a look my fleet of ‘69 Camaros. I’ve got four at 7km, five at 50-100km, one at 1000km and the current one at 1750km. A few of the low mileage cars are tuned with one stock. The other cars are tuned, bar the current Camaro. I think one of them have every part available(all tyre compounds as well). Wondering if that tuned car would up the value, compared to a stock model with high kms.

 

[Bobby-Vegas]

Considering they specifically said it would come, and that we have a known dataminer telling us various details about how it'll work because it's already in the code, it's coming soon.

Yes, company is greedy, this is always true. That's why they've placed so many limitations on selling. But still, selling will come soon enough.

I truly hope it happens sooner than later, and sellable parts as well