Assetto corsa coming to PS4 and Xbox one

[Mike_grpA]

True, this is why I hate how manufacturers seem to think console owners are 12 year olds with weak arms and tiny feet driving with socks. So you get pathetic springs as well.

I want the above type come to consoles. I want really good pedals like that compatible for consoles.

Clubsports work just fine on console. XBox owners can get official Fanatec gear, and PS4 owners will soon be able to as well. However, thanks to older Fanatec stuff being made not supported anymore on PS4 overnight, there's a lot of cheap setups about for sale. Even old Fanatec wheels are pretty good, and a used set of CSP V1s are relatively cheap, and still in another league to the plastic garbage you get with TM or Logi wheels. You can use a GIMX adaptor to make these old wheels work on PS4 as well, which is what I do.

You're not a true sim racer if you haven't done the foam/squishball brake mod at some point in your career.

Yep, we've all been there lol. I remember trying quite a lot of different ideas with my old DFGT's fisher price looking pedals lol.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

You're not a true sim racer if you haven't done the foam/squishball brake mod at some point in your career.

I think the foam/squishball brake mod is probably the first mod a lot of us do. I remember doing it to my DFGT pedals back in the day, thought it was the greatest thing since force feedback!

Never done that myself, prefer instant fast pedal full range input. I also really dislike the initial deadzone Thrustmaster pedals tend to have, I wonder if Fanatec does the same or if it's as instant in response as Logitech pedals?

 

[LeMansAid]

True, this is why I hate how manufacturers seem to think console owners are 12 year olds with weak arms and tiny feet driving with socks. So you get pathetic springs as well.

I want the above type come to consoles. I want really good pedals like that compatible for consoles.

Fanatec have always had a console-also focus. While talking about their pedals though, these customised ones deserve a special mention.

There is such a span of quality though. I used to use Fanatec V1 pedals, but they seem like a toy compared to the CST Performance Pedals that I now use. Usually when someone uses them for the first time, they'll be flying off at every corner. I'll put the pedal meters on, and see that they're using only about 5% braking power due to the robust comparative feel vs what they were used to.

Really though, it's best to make the of, and appreciate, what one has - and only loathe them in retrospect, once greater heights have been achieved.

Edit - Oh, and I too still have a set of DFGT pedals with half-cut section of cylindrical foam rubber inserted for the brake. It actually had a pretty good feel thanks to the different stages of resistance. Yay, I'm in the club!!

 

[azidahaka]

1$ a day then, the time you spent playing, you did not spent it spending money on something else, you might be ahead and you don't know it yet.

Feeling better yet?

Maybe if it was half beer lol

 

[Johnnypenso]

Never done that myself, prefer instant fast pedal full range input. I also really dislike the initial deadzone Thrustmaster pedals tend to have, I wonder if Fanatec does the same or if it's as instant in response as Logitech pedals?

I did it as I'm sure others did too, so I could drive without ABS in GT5 using my DFGT, which wouldn't let you use half the pedal range before lockup, let alone the full pedal range, so full pedal range was pointless in that case.

 

[boxster233]

Clubsports work just fine on console. XBox owners can get official Fanatec gear, and PS4 owners will soon be able to as well. However, thanks to older Fanatec stuff being made not supported anymore on PS4 overnight, there's a lot of cheap setups about for sale. Even old Fanatec wheels are pretty good, and a used set of CSP V1s are relatively cheap, and still in another league to the plastic garbage you get with TM or Logi wheels. You can use a GIMX adaptor to make these old wheels work on PS4 as well, which is what I do.



Yep, we've all been there lol. I remember trying quite a lot of different ideas with my old DFGT's fisher price looking pedals lol.

Where can I get cheap fanatec setup?

 

[Saidur_Ali]

I did it as I'm sure others did too, so I could drive without ABS in GT5 using my DFGT, which wouldn't let you use half the pedal range before lockup, let alone the full pedal range, so full pedal range was pointless in that case.

Full range gets calibrated on first push of pedal IIRC so having even less distance makes it worse IMO. I found on a time trial on GT5 that I couldn't go as quick if I didn't initially fully press the brake and accelerator pedal down on GT5 using DFGT. I have since stuck with that method for all games.

 

[Orayani]

Fanatec have always had a console-also focus. While talking about their pedals though, these customised ones deserve a special mention.

There is such a span of quality though. I used to use Fanatec V1 pedals, but they seem like a toy compared to the CST Performance Pedals that I now use. Usually when someone uses them for the first time, they'll be flying off at every corner. I'll put the pedal meters on, and see that they're using only about 5% braking power due to the robust comparative feel vs what they were used to.

Really though, it's best to make the of, and appreciate, what one has - and only loathe them in retrospect, once greater heights have been achieved.

Edit - Oh, and I too still have a set of DFGT pedals with half-cut section of cylindrical foam rubber inserted for the brake. It actually had a pretty good feel thanks to the different stages of resistance. Yay, I'm in the club!!

I love how the pedals are like most cars. Floor mounted accelerator but hanging brake and clutch.

I also wonder if the Sparco bucket seat can be bolted into the Playseat base... http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/seats/sparco-ergo-fibreglass-seat

 

[mister dog]

Where can I get cheap fanatec setup?

Edit, never mind didn't read the post good, as you were talking about pedals.

 

[35mm]

Full range gets calibrated on first push of pedal IIRC so having even less distance makes it worse IMO.

The smaller travel distance is many times compensated by the non-linear resistance that you get at the end of the travel when using a mod.

It also replicates much better the feeling of using a brake pedal in real life.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

The smaller travel distance is many times compensated by the non-linear resistance that you get at the end of the travel when using a mod.

It also replicates much better the feeling of using a brake pedal in real life.

Personally think it would slow me down. It's a potentiometer so based on distance travelled so I find I'm more consistent when I have full control over that.

Used a £1,499 pedal set this year which was hydraulic, I liked the feeling of that and got used to it straight away. Really realistic in feeling and braking style makes sense in that you stamp on brake pedal as hard as possible to limit of adhesion and ease off the pressure when approaching apex.

I actually used to drive without ABS with stock DFGT pedals on Ferrari Virtual Academy 2010 which was like the underpinnings of Assetto Corsa.



Amazing how far they have come since then. I hope they add leaderboards on console version, I will be tempted to get it for PS4 then.

 

[ALB123]

I put a sponge in the cavity under the brake pedal of my DFGT and I had no problem braking hard in GT5/6. You had to calibrate the brake anyway so it would take reduced travel into account.

I tried it once but didn't like it. Although, I think I was using foam that was just way too firm.

Fanatec have always had a console-also focus. While talking about their pedals though, these customised ones deserve a special mention.

Wow. Look at the rig setup. That's beautiful! Not crazy big and I love that seat. I would never want a real performance race seat with sides holding me in...I like to slouch and side with my legs up something when I'm not racing - like right now. My wheel and pedals are ready for me to press GO! in Content Manager, but I'm checking GTP first.

There is such a span of quality though. I used to use Fanatec V1 pedals, but they seem like a toy compared to the CST Performance Pedals that I now use. Usually when someone uses them for the first time, they'll be flying off at every corner. I'll put the pedal meters on, and see that they're using only about 5% braking power due to the robust comparative feel vs what they were used to.

Those are beautiful pedals. They must feel fantastic. How much does a 3-pedal set sell for? I can never seem to find a retail price. A few pedal companies are like that. I know they ain't cheap...Those are ultra tier.

Full range gets calibrated on first push of pedal IIRC so having even less distance makes it worse IMO. I found on a time trial on GT5 that I couldn't go as quick if I didn't initially fully press the brake and accelerator pedal down on GT5 using DFGT. I have since stuck with that method for all games.

Agreed. It doesn't matter what equipment I'm in front of. The brake & throttle are getting full depressed as soon as I hit the track. I think I might prefer the longer travel with DFGT pedals...There is such little feeling to them, I think I would be a disaster shortening the pedal travel right now. On a real set of pedals? Sure...

 

[LeMansAid]

Those are beautiful pedals. They must feel fantastic. How much does a 3-pedal set sell for? I can never seem to find a retail price. A few pedal companies are like that. I know they ain't cheap...Those are ultra tier.

Ha, a few sim racers still twitching now, I bet. Todd Cannon, the man behind the CST Pedals, did a runner with a heap of money for orders.

Personally, I'd see no reason not to go for these, if looking on that sort of level. Well cheaper than the CSTs were, and even more feature-rich.

 

[Orayani]

I tried it once but didn't like it. Although, I think I was using foam that was just way too firm.


Agreed. It doesn't matter what equipment I'm in front of. The brake & throttle are getting full depressed as soon as I hit the track. I think I might prefer the longer travel with DFGT pedals...There is such little feeling to them, I think I would be a disaster shortening the pedal travel right now. On a real set of pedals? Sure...

Sometimes I always got that impression that somebody was sabotaging my brakes. It probably explains why I had been suffering so much understeer. Couldn't slow the damn thing down so no heat in the brakes or tyres. So because of that no confidence.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Full range gets calibrated on first push of pedal IIRC so having even less distance makes it worse IMO. I found on a time trial on GT5 that I couldn't go as quick if I didn't initially fully press the brake and accelerator pedal down on GT5 using DFGT. I have since stuck with that method for all games.

Yes, so you'd press the pedal all the way to get full range and then with the foam or insert of your choice you'd get heavy resistance with much less pedal travel when driving without ABS. There were many cars that would lock up at less than half the pedal travel even with really low brake settings like 2/1 or 1/0 so having more pedal travel is completely useless. Once your tires are locked you don't get more braking by pressing the pedal further so it helped to find the threshold easier through the increased resistance. In GT6 this was probably unnecessary but I wasn't using my DFGT with GT6.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Yes, so you'd press the pedal all the way to get full range and then with the foam or insert of your choice you'd get heavy resistance with much less pedal travel when driving without ABS. There were many cars that would lock up at less than half the pedal travel even with really low brake settings like 2/1 or 1/0 so having more pedal travel is completely useless. Once your tires are locked you don't get more braking by pressing the pedal further so it helped to find the threshold easier through the increased resistance. In GT6 this was probably unnecessary but I wasn't using my DFGT with GT6.

Way too much effort for me and already can threshold brake without it so saw no reason to change what worked for me. I understand though why it can be important for some to have the extra resistance. Personally now find I can adapt to different sim and hardware very quickly.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Way too much effort for me and already can threshold brake without it so saw no reason to change what worked for me. I understand though why it can be important for some to have the extra resistance. Personally now find I can adapt to different sim and hardware very quickly.

It was a lot of effort cutting 3" of foam pipe insulation I found in the basement and I almost broke a sweat bending over to insert it. I soldiered through though

 

[Orayani]

What is peoples view on the Ferrari 599XX EVO? Just had a few first time quick laps. Fun fun fun! Quite a beast though.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

What is peoples view on the Ferrari 599XX EVO? Just had a few first time quick laps. Fun fun fun! Quite a beast though.

Scary yet enjoyable monster to try to tame but the brakes are rubbish. They feel like they are made of chocolate.

 

[Orayani]

I thought the brakes in the Porsche Spyder was worse?

 

[Mike_grpA]

Where can I get cheap fanatec setup?

Second hand pretty much anywhere on the internet mate.

 

[boxster233]

Second hand pretty much anywhere on the internet mate.

I am not seeing any that are that much cheaper and better than my t150. Can you pm me links?

 

[Mike_grpA]

I am not seeing any that are that much cheaper and better than my t150. Can you pm me links?

Just keep an eye out, as with buying anything used. Any Porsche based or newer Fanatec wheel will be a lot better than a T150. They should be dirt cheap, but of course you'll always get dreamers. I recently saw an ad for a DFGT with a price of $200 lol. That was clearly someone who didn't know a thing about what they were trying to sell

 

[boxster233]

Just keep an eye out, as with buying anything used. Any Porsche based or newer Fanatec wheel will be a lot better than a T150. They should be dirt cheap, but of course you'll always get dreamers. I recently saw an ad for a DFGT with a price of $200 lol. That was clearly someone who didn't know a thing about what they were trying to sell

Are the Porsche 911 gt3 version better than t150?

 

[Mike_grpA]

Are the Porsche 911 gt3 version better than t150?

Yeah it will be. They're smoother and produce more peak torque than a G29, so it'll definitely be better than a T150.

I had a quick look, and I don't know where you live or anything, but I easily found this ad of someone selling a GT2 and CSR Elite pedals over here for $200 aud. For reference, a T150 is $250 aud. The wheel will be stronger, smoother, and nicer to use, and the Elite pedals are in another world to the plastic TM stuff.

A nice bonus is it says it's unused, and looks in brand new condition to me. Here's the link:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nare...911-gt2-wheel-and-csr-elite-pedals/1133132887

 

[boxster233]

Yeah it will be. They're smoother and produce more peak torque than a G29, so it'll definitely be better than a T150.

I had a quick look, and I don't know where you live or anything, but I easily found this ad of someone selling a GT2 and CSR Elite pedals over here for $200 aud. For reference, a T150 is $250 aud. The wheel will be stronger, smoother, and nicer to use, and the Elite pedals are in another world to the plastic TM stuff.

A nice bonus is it says it's unused, and looks in brand new condition to me. Here's the link:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nare...911-gt2-wheel-and-csr-elite-pedals/1133132887

US-texas

 

[ALB123]

Yeah it will be. They're smoother and produce more peak torque than a G29, so it'll definitely be better than a T150.

I had a quick look, and I don't know where you live or anything, but I easily found this ad of someone selling a GT2 and CSR Elite pedals over here for $200 aud. For reference, a T150 is $250 aud. The wheel will be stronger, smoother, and nicer to use, and the Elite pedals are in another world to the plastic TM stuff.

A nice bonus is it says it's unused, and looks in brand new condition to me. Here's the link:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nare...911-gt2-wheel-and-csr-elite-pedals/1133132887

Damn. That's quite a deal!

 

[Mike_grpA]

Damn. That's quite a deal!

That's what I thought. The CSR Elite pedals are only a small step down from Clubsports, and a belt driven wheel with a good sized alcantara wrapped rim, and an alloy three pedal set with a load cell brake, all for $200 Australian, which is like a dollar fiddy US

To be fair, I only paid $200 for my CSR and CSP V1s, and that was a while ago now, well over a year ago, maybe even two years. I bought them both separately used off friends though. Still, both are still in excellent condition and work like new. Only wear I've noticed is the paddles on the CSR don't click anymore.

Thinking about getting the cheap CSR shifter set. Fanatec sells them dirt cheap brand new, and I'm desperate for a H pattern shifter.

 

[ALB123]

That's what I thought. The CSR Elite pedals are only a small step down from Clubsports, and a belt driven wheel with a good sized alcantara wrapped rim, and an alloy three pedal set with a load cell brake, all for $200 Australian, which is like a dollar fiddy US

To be fair, I only paid $200 for my CSR and CSP V1s, and that was a while ago now, well over a year ago, maybe even two years. I bought them both separately used off friends though. Still, both are still in excellent condition and work like new. Only wear I've noticed is the paddles on the CSR don't click anymore.

Thinking about getting the cheap CSR shifter set. Fanatec sells them dirt cheap brand new, and I'm desperate for a H pattern shifter.

Tell me about it...I want an H-Pattern shifter in the worst way. I'm going to need to at least upgrade the pedals to get a clutch pedal and this wheel is on it's last legs...so, I'm really looking at doing a total overhaul, I suppose. I feel so dirty driving an F40 or Countach with the DFGT. I need to shift!

 

[Mike_grpA]

Tell me about it...I want an H-Pattern shifter in the worst way. I'm going to need to at least upgrade the pedals to get a clutch pedal and this wheel is on it's last legs...so, I'm really looking at doing a total overhaul, I suppose. I feel so dirty driving an F40 or Countach with the DFGT. I need to shift!

The good old trusty DFGT. I modded mine to within an inch of it's life when I had one. They're a trusty old wheel, and really hold up to the abuse. Definitely the best entry level wheel in their day, by a country mile!