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@BrainsBush That is part of playing Assetto Corsa for the first. That cold realisation that you are not the driving genius you believed you were.
Assetto corsa coming to PS4 and Xbox one
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Heh! There is always somebody faster. Then when you think you are that good there is somebody even faster than that.
That is the only thing I detest about gaming. When you find out the background of said person. Either a butt load of time to waste at home or both that and expensive gear with lots of skill dialled in.
F1 2016 and Drive Club aren't exactly a fraction on sims. Lets see a person used to F1 2016 then jump in the F1 Assetto Corsa Ferrari's...
It is also always funny reading Youtube comments on this. Most ordinary joes thats never or could even imagine trying to afford track days with super cars let alone modern F1 are all experts by comparing whats on TV let lone the amount that prefer F1 2016 over Assetto Corsa is laughable.
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I feel like that applies to almost all games, and especially for those of us who played them before the advent of online gaming. As a kid, you figured you were good if none of your friends could beat you. You were great if you could hold your own at the local arcade. I could do that with Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 and Marvel vs Capcom 2, and I was pretty handy at F355, Sega Rally, and some other racers I can't remember.
Online gaming has made me realize I'm utter crap in fighting games. I'm reasonably competent in racing games (comfortably occupying the top 1% in most leaderboards I attempt in FM6), but I'd expect that with the thousands of hours sunk in at this point. What's really impressive in my mind is how much quicker the people are that are on the absolute top: it makes my times look positively slow, and I already think I've made good progress!
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Interesting point of views, why does one has to be any good to enjoy playing a game? Or is it about being better than the other more than enjoying the game itself.
it would explain why some prefer racing on a game pad using hood views in order to have faster reflexes and better, if totally unnatural, view to beat the guy driving from cockpit with a wheel and a gate shifter because he his enjoying the game so much more that way.
I am ready to bet that the second guy will be playing his game much longer than the one trying to win as a main purpose. Anyway, what will he win, we will never know!
it would explain why some prefer racing on a game pad using hood views in order to have faster reflexes and better, if totally unnatural, view to beat the guy driving from cockpit with a wheel and a gate shifter because he his enjoying the game so much more that way.
I am ready to bet that the second guy will be playing his game much longer than the one trying to win as a main purpose. Anyway, what will he win, we will never know!
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I used to mop the floor with my buddies when playing MarioKart. They actually created a rule that said if I won three times in a row I had to hand the controller over to someone else otherwise I'd get to play in just about every race. Yeah, I thought I was pretty good at MarioKart. Then I got MarioKart for the Wii and went online........turns out I wasn't all that great.
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Thx for the supporting replies. You racers guide me through this warm winter season 
I'm just self spotting and be a little cynical also to myself 
I love the Assetto Corsa and still have a lot to explore. Sometimes time trials, races but also just cruising around and feel the difference between the cars on the same track.
@BrandonW77 Last week our youngest daughter (18....) installed the Wii again and is having fun with Mario Karts. She constantly beats me. And she plays occasionally and I several hours per day.
I'm just self spotting and be a little cynical also to myself I love the Assetto Corsa and still have a lot to explore. Sometimes time trials, races but also just cruising around and feel the difference between the cars on the same track.
@BrandonW77 Last week our youngest daughter (18....) installed the Wii again and is having fun with Mario Karts. She constantly beats me. And she plays occasionally and I several hours per day.
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I saw this touched on a few pages back (might have been in a different AC thread) and I noticed it big time over the holiday as I played more than usual - but it seems like too many people online quit early in if they aren't going to win. A full grid can drop to 4 or 5 cars after a few minutes. They're more worried about winning, or at least scrapping it up with someone else than driving and personal improvement. I think the prospect of driving alone for 10+ minutes is unthinkable for a lot of the more gamer-types. Which is something I can understand.. most races online are too long with no tangible incentive to stick around either way.
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Some people are more like Lewis Hamilton and some others more like Nico Rosberg
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I used to mop the floor with my buddies when playing MarioKart. They actually created a rule that said if I won three times in a row I had to hand the controller over to someone else otherwise I'd get to play in just about every race. Yeah, I thought I was pretty good at MarioKart. Then I got MarioKart for the Wii and went online........turns out I wasn't all that great.
Basically the difference between your local 'biotope' of the old days, which was more or less concentrated around the village; and competing at a worldwide level.
Of course it's going to be way, way harder
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Some people are more like Lewis Hamilton and some others more like Nico Rosberg
Both Nico and Lewis are great competitor, with a world title to prove it.
When you compete for big money and real glory in an activity recognized to be a competition, wining is everything, you do not drive in an F1 championship for fun!
Add to that the most competitive racing series in the world, you can understand why either want to win and be world Champion.
If you drive for fun in a game with nothing to win, literally, it seems reasonable that having fun is maybe more important than winning, therefore being good or not is not so relevant in your quest for pleasure.
Mind you if winning in meaningless make believe competition is all someone can be good at, I guess they might see it as important to them and not realize how pathetic it is.
For those into sim competition I think races in IRacing have decent money to be gained, but then you have to be good and committed to even participate.
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I used to mop the floor with my buddies when playing MarioKart. They actually created a rule that said if I won three times in a row I had to hand the controller over to someone else otherwise I'd get to play in just about every race. Yeah, I thought I was pretty good at MarioKart. Then I got MarioKart for the Wii and went online........turns out I wasn't all that great.
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Would love to see that.I may or may not be secretly working on a blue shell mod for AC.
Epic game, indeed. 👍
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I got 99 problems and sim racing ain't one of them. I know I'm crap.
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Agreed. I know where I stand in the Assetto Corsa community when it comes to lap times and it doesn't bother me one bit. I sit in front of this wheel for one reason only - my own personal enjoyment. If I do go online to cruise with others or race against others I am respectful and I maintain the same attitude...it's only for fun.
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A question about the AI - say if i create a 20 track customized championship,is there 'strong' AI drivers and weak ones all the way through - as in an F1 team structured way,or can anyone win a race as it is in Pcars? Just want to know if i will have 'rival' drivers or not...
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In my experience,
People want above all feel they have a chance or a racing for something.
If by end of lap 1 they are 12 seconds behind the alien leader will they quit?
Usually no of there is some other drivers in front or behind them they can defend from or hope to overtake.
I saw people quit out off boredom from a 5th place because with 5 laps at spa they were 45 seconds behind the one in front and one minute ahead those behind.
Those behind were a group of 4 slower guys of basically the same pace that iirc finished lapped but sticked to the end because they were actually not going around alone but fighting and having a good time.
After all we get online to measure and have fun with other humans, if we end alone a good part of the point is gone.
This brings the point, does one have to be good to enjoy the game?
Short answer is no. You just need to have people you can race with on a meaningful level.
More thought answer is the longer the game is out the better you should be to enjoy it online. Casuals are the first to quit such kind of games so you need to be good or in a group evenly paced to have fun. That unless you like solo cruising lol
Solutions to have casuals stick? Matchmaking, ballasting depending on online results,? Not sure there's a way around it honestly.
That said, never quit guys. And not because the "it's training" bs, (you can train way better alone offline) but because you are paying a racing SIM. There will always be like in real life a Minardi, Marussia, a Deletraz (google him up for some laugh!).
It's part of racing and you staying there until the end even if standing aside and being lapped is pay of the game and making the game more enjoyable for all the others.
I always approach lapped drivers with respect for they kept on and made their best.
Now please give us the private lobbies kunos!
And reverse grids, success ballast, online championships etc etc
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Stefano said the drivers have different skill levels. I have noticed the better drivers on PS4 too.
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I'm usually 3 seconds off the top times in GT6, maybe 2 seconds if I push really hard in GT Academy. In AC comparing my times to RSR leaderboards I'm 4-5 seconds off. I usually don't spend a lot of laps practicing and didn't dial in the setup though If I really push I think I might get to 3 seconds off, so slightly worse than GT but I'm quite satisfied with that 
The weird thing is AC feels a lot faster and on the limit for me, even though most of my times are slower compared to the same tracks in GT. Just the feeling of the car moving under your hands, it's a lot more real and scary to mess up than the "gamey" feel of GT. When pushing the SF15-T for example, after an intense session I would be "There's no way anyone can go faster than that
". Then you look up RSR and you're 6 seconds off
If I really push I think I might get to 3 seconds off, so slightly worse than GT but I'm quite satisfied with that The weird thing is AC feels a lot faster and on the limit for me, even though most of my times are slower compared to the same tracks in GT. Just the feeling of the car moving under your hands, it's a lot more real and scary to mess up than the "gamey" feel of GT. When pushing the SF15-T for example, after an intense session I would be "There's no way anyone can go faster than that
". Then you look up RSR and you're 6 seconds off
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Hopefully the Porsche Pack II will arrive next as well. June 10, probably. 👍
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The toughest opponent I've ever faced in racing is...me
. I have a serious, now 7 year battle, with my weaknesses and shortcomings when it comes to sim racing. I've challenged myself on several levels like no other human being can, in terms of consistency, speed, control and learning to drive in ways that are a little uncomfortable at first (heel and toe for example) but extremely satisfying. When I see someone ahead of me on a leaderboard, it's not him I have to beat it's me, the only thing I have control over. Zen moment there..
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The toughest opponent I've ever faced in racing is...me
Zen moment there..
Luckily, you're a Canadian so you're constantly being polite and getting out of your way. "After you good sir! Eh!" "No, I must insist that you go first, good sir! Eh!" "I shan't hear of it, I will wait here in the sand until you finish your lap good sir! Eh!"
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Luckily, you're a Canadian so you're constantly being polite and getting out of your way. "After you good sir! Eh!" "No, I must insist that you go first, good sir! Eh!" "I shan't hear of it, I will wait here in the sand until you finish your lap good sir! Eh!"
