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Maybe its me pushing it to hard, but. The AMG GT3 drives like a dream. I like the AMG GT3 over the 650S. I'm just understeering badly with the 650S.... Ill figure it out
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Maybe its me pushing it to hard, but. The AMG GT3 drives like a dream. I like the AMG GT3 over the 650S. I'm just understeering badly with the 650S.... Ill figure it out
Tired Tyres
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Really? I tried the 650S around Brands Indy and didn't find anything odd. When I switched back to the 12C that I've done massive amounts of laps in, I suddenly noticed loads and loads of understeer that I never thought was there in the first place.
The 650S now replaces 12C as my favourite GT3 car.
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Oh that's good to know. I'm not going to pretend that I have the first clue on how to program AI for a racing game because I don't have any idea how to do it. But, that's why I didn't go into the car racing software business!They actually do, Empty Box did a little race and the AI actually overtakes now, which in AC terms is quite impressive
Kunos did, however, and therefore it is their responsibility to provide us with a respectable AI to race against. Unless they announced their game as being a multi-player only racing title, with only single player practicing (like hotlapping) in addition to MP racing, then they have an obligation to give us working AI.I have seen some insane stuff from AI cars when doing quick races in Assetto Corsa. I'm sure we all have - or at least seen videos of some crazy stuff. I haven't had a chance to run any races in v1.4 because I've been so focused on enjoying the new cars and track in hotlap mode. Fortunately, most people have been saying that the AI has been improved tremendously and that is very encouraging! Hopefully the AI doesn't still use the "pit maneuver" on me when I overtake them.
Whitestar
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I actually find the AI to be quite good in AC. I found it's mostly down to how I drive myself. On Silverstone for example I have had tons of races where I had no contact with other cars in a field of 20. If I just stick to my driving line, respect the other cars and don't brake too early then there is almost never an issue, at least on this track. So I just sit patiently waiting for overtaking opportunities, which will always come at Village/The Loop and sometimes between Maggots/Becketts or on the Hangar Straight when slipstreaming.
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I thought the 650 felt nice. Maybe a bit too nice actually, bordering on boring.But that's being negative. It really felt good and balanced.
The AMG GT3 I couldn't quite figure out.
The Escort is awesome, by the way.
It felt nice Offline, Online however, understeers heavily, unless its server related.
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The AMG GT GT3 feels nice, it can be quite difficult to get the car to point in the correct direction in the high speed stuff, but it feels stable in the low speed corners. The gearing is completely bonkers though. For sure they're using a longer gearbox in real life. The McLaren lacks top speed (Although has more than the 12C), but drives like an absolute dream. Very stable everywhere.
The Huracan Super Trofeo actually feels quite similar to what I'm used to in real life. The only issue for me is that the car is severely under powered. In fact, it feels like the power is no different to that of the GT3. At Monza, I could only manage to hit 270Km/h, when in real life we were hitting 310Km/h before adding in the air restrictions. So there is definitely work to be done.
The Huracan Super Trofeo actually feels quite similar to what I'm used to in real life. The only issue for me is that the car is severely under powered. In fact, it feels like the power is no different to that of the GT3. At Monza, I could only manage to hit 270Km/h, when in real life we were hitting 310Km/h before adding in the air restrictions. So there is definitely work to be done.
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Sounds like Kunos applied BoP to fit the Super Trofeo into the GT3 class?
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I'm more of the theory that Lamborghini has asked them not to make the Trofeo faster than the GT3 because the GT3 is technically in a higher category. But that being said, Lamborghini is always quick to say that they have the fastest one make GT series. So, my theory doesn't make much sense.
I'll leave this here as well if anyone can help me.
Hello everyone, I'm looking into building 2 computers for the real life race team I am with and want to get some opinions on some items. To start, this will be my first time building a triple screen setup, and I am looking at doing it with 2 different kinds of setups. One is with the current day's most up to date hardware, and the other is a more budget friendly option, but still should work. For both setups, I am hoping to run on max settings if possible. The two sim software's that I would be using are Assetto Corsa and iRacing.
Option A
Resolution: 7680x1440
Case: Thermaltike Level 10 Titanium Edition or InWin S-Frame Glass
OS: Windows 10 Home Edition
Motherboard: ASRock Gaming Fatal1ty X99X Killer
Processor: Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0GHz
Processor Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB SSD (For Boot) and Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD (For Data)
Graphics Card: 2x SLI EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 06G-P4-4998-KR 6GB Classified Gaming w/ACX 2.0+
Power Supply: Corsair RMx RM1000X 1000W ATX12V / EVS12V
Disc Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC68 802.11a/b/g/n/ac PCI-Express x1
Monitors: 3x Asus ROG PG278Q Black 27" Gaming Monitor
Option B
Resolution : 5760x1080
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4/3.1ATX
Processor: Intel Core i7-5931K 3.5GHz 6-Core
Processor Cooler: Same as above
RAM: Same as above
Storage: Same as above
Graphics Card: 2x SLI EVGA GeForce GTX970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W
Monitors: 3x Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0"
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Little bit edited.. but I love the new amg GT3, so nice to drive at Nordschleife!
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I'm no expert but from everything I read, a single GPU seems to be better than 2 in SLI or Crossfire so I'd go with the 980Ti. I'd up the SSD to at least 256Gb because at 128 you'll fit Windows and AC and that's it. On screens that small I don't think that the extra resolution makes that much difference so I'd probably just go with the 5760x1080 monitors. And if you're going to spend that kind of dough on a system I'd look at watercooling that CPU.
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Funny thing is, when I asked my boss how much he though a simulator would cost, he though €50,000. I just broke down laughing.
Can a single 980Ti run 3 screens on maximum settings? On my personal system I run a single 1920x1080 screen on my 660Ti and it struggles to run at 40+ fps on Assetto Corsa. Triple the card memory and triple the screen, shouldn't it have the same effect?
The loading times with the hdd are really not all that different to the SSD on the game for me, so I figure I can save a bit of cash for my boss there.
Is water cooling really that good? I've heard nothing but unsatisfied reviews about watercooling.
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I don't know if you'll be able to max everything out with the 980Ti, but for me anyway, not having the issues that seem to arise with running dual cards outweighs that. You should be able to run triples at really high settings though, but you might want to make a post or look on the official forums to see what others are saying. Of course I'm just going by what I've read on the AC Forums and issues seem to pop up with dual cards from time to time.
As far as the HDD vs. SSD, the game will run fine on both all that changes is loading times, but if you are spending at least $2k on a system, it makes sense to me to spend an extra $60 to get the bigger SSD and put all your driving games on it to get the better load times.
The Hyper 212 is a great fan cooler and really quiet so it might suffice, but if you are running triples at high res you are really going to be stressing the system to the max and will have high temps. A good case with good airflow and lots of fans is a must of course. Not all watercoolers are equal of course, but a little investigation and a couple of reviews will find you a good one.
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I have a 980ti and I have no problem running triple screens maxed out. Using post processing filters my fps is in the high 80's. Without its in the 120's. My setup:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8676634?
5960X is way overkill for AS. My 4790k rarely goes over 40%.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8676634?
5960X is way overkill for AS. My 4790k rarely goes over 40%.
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You could get by with a i5 4690k if you want to save money. Bottleneck here for a triple screen will be your GPU, not CPU. But if you want to go Skylake and can afford the costs it takes to run next gen hardware then go for it. But this can be a $1300 build or a $3000 build.
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Agree with Harry. There's no need to go Skylake. Even an overclocked i5-2500K holds its own in the vast majority of modern games. And an i5-4690K is a good choice while you wait another tick-tock or two.
About coolers: There is really no need to get an aftermarket cooler - be it water or air - unless you are overclocking. The stock cooler that come boxed with most CPUs will do the job just fine at stock Hz. And the Hyper 212 should be a good choice if overclocking. There are though a couple of benefits to a closed loop liquid cooler. There's little to no risk, it's a lot lighter, it can be quiter, and it brings the CPU temp down from peak a lot faster than an air cooler.
About SLI: True, there can be some downsides to it, but it's very game dependent. And in Assetto Corsa I experienced little to no problems really. Only very minor micro-stuttering which is barely noticeable. The upside is that you get close to double the performance, maybe between 80 and 90 per cent in AC (can't really remember). But in other games there can be other types of issues, such as different types of stutter. Also, sometimes you'll have to wait for SLI support to be released for a game well after the game itself got released (Fallout 4). And other games might not get SLI support at all (Just Cause 3). The best argument for SLI is really just raw power/fps. That's a necessity if you are going for monitors that run at more than 60hz and want to run high graphics settings.
In your case @Kamuifanboy I think I would actually go for a G-SYNC monitor at 1920x1080, for example the Benq XL2420G or the AOC. That way you could run a single 980 Ti with very high settings in G-SYNC mode and not worry if the fps should dip a little below 60fps.
And also follow Johnny's advice on getting a bigger SSD.
Edit: We're getting a little off-topic here. I knew there was a reason I started that PC hardware thread.
About coolers: There is really no need to get an aftermarket cooler - be it water or air - unless you are overclocking. The stock cooler that come boxed with most CPUs will do the job just fine at stock Hz. And the Hyper 212 should be a good choice if overclocking. There are though a couple of benefits to a closed loop liquid cooler. There's little to no risk, it's a lot lighter, it can be quiter, and it brings the CPU temp down from peak a lot faster than an air cooler.
About SLI: True, there can be some downsides to it, but it's very game dependent. And in Assetto Corsa I experienced little to no problems really. Only very minor micro-stuttering which is barely noticeable. The upside is that you get close to double the performance, maybe between 80 and 90 per cent in AC (can't really remember). But in other games there can be other types of issues, such as different types of stutter. Also, sometimes you'll have to wait for SLI support to be released for a game well after the game itself got released (Fallout 4). And other games might not get SLI support at all (Just Cause 3). The best argument for SLI is really just raw power/fps. That's a necessity if you are going for monitors that run at more than 60hz and want to run high graphics settings.
In your case @Kamuifanboy I think I would actually go for a G-SYNC monitor at 1920x1080, for example the Benq XL2420G or the AOC. That way you could run a single 980 Ti with very high settings in G-SYNC mode and not worry if the fps should dip a little below 60fps.
And also follow Johnny's advice on getting a bigger SSD.
Edit: We're getting a little off-topic here. I knew there was a reason I started that PC hardware thread.
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About SLI: True, there can be some downsides to it, but it's very game dependent. And in Assetto Corsa I experienced little to no problems really. Only very minor micro-stuttering which is barely noticeable. The upside is that you get close to double the performance, maybe between 80 and 90 per cent in AC (can't really remember). But in other games there can be other types of issues, such as different types of stutter. Also, sometimes you'll have to wait for SLI support to be released for a game well after the game itself got released (Fallout 4). And other games might not get SLI support at all (Just Cause 3). The best argument for SLI is really just raw power/fps. That's a necessity if you are going for monitors that run at more than 60hz and want to run high graphics settings.
In your case @Kamuifanboy I think I would actually go for a G-SYNC monitor at 1920x1080, for example the Benq XL2420G or the AOC. That way you could run a single 980 Ti with very high settings in G-SYNC mode and not worry if the fps should dip a little below 60fps.
And also follow Johnny's advice on getting a bigger SSD.
Edit: We're getting a little off-topic here. I knew there was a reason I started that PC hardware thread.
Sorry, I didn't see your PC Hardware thread.
As far as the SLI, Because I am building this for my team, the only two games that would be running would be Assetto Corsa and iRacing. Also, triple screens are a must.
To be more on topic, what kind of lap times do you guys run in a GT3 car around the Nurburgring 24hour Circuit? I'm running an average of 8:42's with 15 degree temperature and light clouds.
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We should move this to the pc hardware thread, but you don't need to worry about iRacing, you could run triples in iRacing with a smartphone
. @Whitestar has a great point about the GSync monitors. If you're not sure how they work look here. In a nutshell, you no longer need to worry about tearing or stuttering due to varying frame rates, especially rates below the stated refresh rate of the monitor, because the monitor adjusts it's refresh rate to be in sync with the output from the pc. They are more expensive, I think around $500-600 for 27" versions but you might find some on sale at this time of year.
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Today that's true, but they are bringing a DX11 update soon, which you might as well plan for.We should move this to the pc hardware thread, but you don't need to worry about iRacing, you could run triples in iRacing with a smartphone
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After the update the cars are sliding all over the place for 2 or 3 laps after that things getting better. Before the update i could do a clean lap on the green hell with the La Ferrari but now no way . Oh btw i play like 80% of the time with a controller with all the assists off except ABS.
. Oh btw i play like 80% of the time with a controller with all the assists off except ABS.
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You might try the official forums, maybe make a thread of your own. A quick search found these:
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/difference-controller-vs-wheel-g27.26706/
http://www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/xbox-controller-good-for-assetto-corsa.25654/ according to one guy, AC has the best pad support of any game he's ever tried. Suggested settings in at least one sig.
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I play with the pad like 2 years most of the time, it feels so good you have a really good control over your car and you can do quick counter steering
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On the topic of controllers, I would like to set my shift up and down to be my right analog stick up and down, but it does not let me set it as that. It only lets me set it to one of the buttons. Is there any possible way to set it to my analog stick?
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You could maybe try JoyToKey to see if it can map that motion to a digital key but I'm not sure if it does it.
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